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wayneL said:
Albo effectively gets thrown under the bus by his own minister and exposes him as a lying POS.

The fact that 40 odd percent of Australians are still so stupidly naive is alarming.

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Albo has repeatedly said he would implement the Uluru statement in full.

That means Voice, treaty , truth.

Which has got the punters worried.
 
SirRumpole said:
Albo has repeatedly said he would implement the Uluru statement in full.

That means Voice, treaty , truth.

Which has got the punters worried.
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In my case just a bit more than worried.
Got a meeting with Main Road planners next month with the hangers-on (ist peoples) about what resumption of land they might/could/will resume off us if the proposed new highway goes ahead.
 
TimeISmoney said:
The circle of welfare reliance is going to be something very hard to break, most of them don't want to relocate due to family and cultural issues.
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If we look at why the "gap" exists both between Aboriginal people and the rest of society, bottom line is two things stand out:

1. Achieving success very often does require relocation. Moving from remote or regional areas to cities is extremely common as is moving interstate to a different city. To be living in a city you weren't born in is totally unremarkable, it's normal.

2. In Western culture anything not of ongoing benefit is dumped real quick. If the building's no longer functional then it's knocked down. If the artistic work no longer holds value then it's at best filed away in the archives, more likely it's forgotten completely. Etc.

Nobody can seriously expect to eliminate the gap between themselves and the rest if they're unwilling to do the things the rest are doing. That goes for anything from income to fitness, if you want what someone else has then you need to do what they did to achieve it.

Nothing I've seen arguing for the Voice has explained how it will make this happen. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
If we look at why the "gap" exists both between Aboriginal people and the rest of society, bottom line is two things stand out:

1. Achieving success very often does require relocation. Moving from remote or regional areas to cities is extremely common as is moving interstate to a different city. To be living in a city you weren't born in is totally unremarkable, it's normal.

2. In Western culture anything not of ongoing benefit is dumped real quick. If the building's no longer functional then it's knocked down. If the artistic work no longer holds value then it's at best filed away in the archives, more likely it's forgotten completely. Etc.

Nobody can seriously expect to eliminate the gap between themselves and the rest if they're unwilling to do the things the rest are doing. That goes for anything from income to fitness, if you want what someone else has then you need to do what they did to achieve it.

Nothing I've seen arguing for the Voice has explained how it will make this happen. :2twocents
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I would agree with that except I don't think it applies purely to Aboriginal people.
There are plenty of white, brown, yellow, orange, green etc people to whom the same standards apply.
In my volunteer work I come across a wide range of coloured and non coloured people who want everything provided for them by someone or something else.
it was always thus.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
I would agree with that except I don't think it applies purely to Aboriginal people.
There are plenty of white, brown, yellow, orange, green etc people to whom the same standards apply.
In my volunteer work I come across a wide range of coloured and non coloured people who want everything provided for them by someone or something else.
it was always thus.
Mick
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I often wondered how they claim that 'they're the most disadvantaged group' in Australia, has anyone actually surveyed this from a wide view when looking at homeless people?
 
Smurf1976 said:
If we look at why the "gap" exists both between Aboriginal people and the rest of society, bottom line is two things stand out:

1. Achieving success very often does require relocation. Moving from remote or regional areas to cities is extremely common as is moving interstate to a different city. To be living in a city you weren't born in is totally unremarkable, it's normal.

2. In Western culture anything not of ongoing benefit is dumped real quick. If the building's no longer functional then it's knocked down. If the artistic work no longer holds value then it's at best filed away in the archives, more likely it's forgotten completely. Etc.

Nobody can seriously expect to eliminate the gap between themselves and the rest if they're unwilling to do the things the rest are doing. That goes for anything from income to fitness, if you want what someone else has then you need to do what they did to achieve it.

Nothing I've seen arguing for the Voice has explained how it will make this happen. :2twocents
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Most of us here know the voice is another gimmick. The US has tried everything imaginable with their native American Indians and they have reserves with drug cartels, alcohol abuse, high youth mortality rates, high unemployment, and family domestic violence. The new fad over there now is harboring Meth labs because they police their own jurisdictions on the reserves, and they have to close the housing down because the labs make them uninhabitable which in some cases squeezes large families into smaller homes.
 
mullokintyre said:
I would agree with that except I don't think it applies purely to Aboriginal people.
There are plenty of white, brown, yellow, orange, green etc people to whom the same standards apply.
In my volunteer work I come across a wide range of coloured and non coloured people who want everything provided for them by someone or something else.
it was always thus.
Mick
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I wont what you have got, so give me, give me.
 
wayneL said:
Words cannot describe how much I despise MSM.
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I'm waiting till the end to see who stands and claps, or otherwise. The Canberra press gallery are largely Leftards so it will be interesting. Golly, she's smashing the recent Victorian 'truth telling' commission now. She might need protection in getting out of the room.
 
Hang on, they just did a cut back to the room and there's only about 20 people in there. The Press Club luncheons are normally 300 or so. What's going on?
 
Sean K said:
I'm waiting till the end to see who stands and claps, or otherwise. The Canberra press gallery are largely Leftards so it will be interesting. Golly, she's smashing the recent Victorian 'truth telling' commission now. She might need protection in getting out of the room.
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