Why is a minority religious group allowed to impose their Islamic Law via a stamp of approval on the food broader Australia eats?
Honestly, how does a certification that says there's no pork, no gelatine, and no animals that were beaten to death, make any difference to you whatsoever? What possible reason would anyone have to be offended over that?
The fact that the producers have to pay someone for a certification that says this product is suitable for a certain group of people.
If producers could simply say " no pork, no gelatine, and no animals that were beaten to death" on their product and it would be acceptable to Muslims, I don't think there would be any problem at at. If it needs some "authorising body" to be paid for a particular certification, then there is a stench of commercial blackmail.
Like they pay for free-range egg certification? Or vegan certification? Or healthy-heart certification? Or fair trade coffee certification? Or dolphin free certification? Or the Australian made label? Or the Olympic-Games supporter logo?
Where was your outrage, all these years?
Christ, we're so scared of "mussies" we're actually getting our undies in a twist over some of the words on our food, in teeny tiny logos some of us hadn't even noticed.
When did Australia get so gutless?
All those certifications are in fact a form of commercial blackmail, leaving the door open to any fringe group to stick their hands out for some producer cash. As I said, just write it on the label and don't pay anyone. What the producer pays for certification obviously gets added to the price, so the consumer pays for something that gives them little benefit.
Weatsop said:What stops me writing "fair-trade coffee" on my coffee, and lying about it? Doesn't that need to be checked?
Yes, we have government departments that do that and courts where lying companies can be taken.
How do we know that the certifying bodies do any checking at all ? As long as they get their fees. I'm sure they don't want to lose valued clients because of a silly thing thing like non-compliance.
But you don't think this particular kerfuffle, over this particular certification, has anything to do with anti-muslim bigotry?
All those certifications are in fact a form of commercial blackmail, leaving the door open to any fringe group to stick their hands out for some producer cash. As I said, just write it on the label and don't pay anyone. What the producer pays for certification obviously gets added to the price, so the consumer pays for something that gives them little benefit.
What the producer pays for certification obviously gets added to the price, so the consumer pays for something that gives them little benefit.
Yes, we have government departments that do that and courts where lying companies can be taken.
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.How do we know that the certifying bodies do any checking at all ? As long as they get their fees
Man, look at what goes into a sausage...
Different cultures are ok with different disgusting stuff.
We eat lips-and-arseholes (aforementioned sausages); rotting glandular secretions (yoghurt); and insect vomit (honey). Gelatine, which is in heaps of stuff, is the goo you get from bones and skin. Wait, I've got a comic!
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I'm not sure it's completely wrong that people want to have their product checked to make sure THAT'S not in it, if it's something they're not in to.
Man, look at what goes into a sausage...
Different cultures are ok with different disgusting stuff.
We eat lips-and-arseholes (aforementioned sausages); rotting glandular secretions (yoghurt); and insect vomit (honey). Gelatine, which is in heaps of stuff, is the goo you get from bones and skin. Wait, I've got a comic!
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I'm not sure it's completely wrong that people want to have their product checked to make sure THAT'S not in it, if it's something they're not in to.
Thinking about it, I think I'll start to look for Halal and Kosher food. Beats eating meat product filled with pink slime - you know, the bits of meat left on bones and cartilages that's then boiled, chemically treated, spun and then ooze out at the end to be filler in most meat products.
Value Collector said:So you would rather government bodies be established to do the checking? then we just pay for it though taxation
That's up to the people that take the certification seriously to worry about, if the company does a poor job of checking the market will lose faith in its certification, and producers will stop requesting certification.
When I was over seas with the army, the base we would sometimes stay at had a halal and a regular mess, I always ate there at the halal mess, because the lines were shorter and they served fish more often ;-)
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