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RateSetter and Assetz Capital want access to stimulus schemes available to traditional banks

Madison Darbyshire March 24 2020

Two of the UK’s largest peer-to-peer platforms are “urgently” seeking access to government schemes and financing to help them keep lending, as the coronavirus pandemic increases the risk of loan defaults by individuals and small businesses. RateSetter, one of the UK’s biggest P2P lenders with more than £800m on its loan book, has called on the Bank of England and the Treasury to allow it access to stimulus schemes that provide liquidity to banks. “There are established schemes run by the BoE that pump liquidity into the system in the event of these situations,” said Rhydian Lewis, chief executive of RateSetter. “Now that P2P lending is fully regulated, this is a conversation we need to have.” The P2P industry body, 36H Group, is due to discuss potential action on a conference call on Tuesday. P2P platforms have not traditionally qualified for banking protections but Mr Lewis argued that now that the fledgling sector was fully regulated by the government, it should be supported by it. “There is no precedent, but these are unprecedented times,” he said. “We are being urgent because it is in times of crisis that people listen.” P2P lenders match borrowers with individuals or companies who want to lend and earn interest. As coronavirus disruption continues to squeeze small businesses, platforms have reported a spike in demand for credit lines but their own concerns on liquidity have forced them to cut back on lending. Assetz Capital, a platform that makes loans primarily against secured property, received funding from British Business Investments, a subsidiary of the national development lender British Business Bank, earlier this month that it said would enable it to make more than £100m in loans. “We’re looking for that to be expanded dramatically,” said Stuart Law, chief executive of Assetz. “The government needs to step up and support not just the banks but the lenders.” He said the platform, one of the UK’s largest, would continue to “work with borrowers, hold our breath a little while and hopefully get some support from the government funding lines”. Some P2P funds have suspended trading in the past week, such as a fund run by Octopus, citing a high volume of investors trying to withdraw their cash. The P2P industry has struggled with its reputation in the past few years with bad loans and liquidity issues toppling a number of high-profile platforms such as Lendy and FundingSecure, trapping millions in investor money. The Financial Conduct Authority introduced new regulations in December which require platforms to test potential investors on their understanding of the risks involved in the sector. But Mr Lewis hopes it will be able to capitalise on the BoE’s desire to keep the financial sector running as smoothly as possible despite the extreme circumstances. P2P lenders are keeping a close eye on the government's proposals to support small businesses but say the first real signs of trouble will appear at the end of the month when payday arrives. “If our borrowers go, it’s because the country’s gone,” said Mr Law.
 
Why they hell are these people out shopping anyway
Rationally one would expect a boom in house renovations and repairs at the moment.

It's one of the few things people can still get done and once the crisis is over it'll be rather difficult to get it done for many. So it's a "now or not for a long time" thing hence the number of people buying hardware.

That said, well there's no need for anyone to loiter. Get in, get it, leave. :2twocents
 
Bunnings are on my avoid shop list (as much as possible) till they start to supply greater Aussie content.
Trouble is, if they only sold Australian products then with few exceptions they'd have not much to sell. It would be a timber yard that also sold bags of cement and refilled gas bottles but that's about it.

That said, it's somewhat bizarre that insulation is imported from the UK. A high bulk, relatively low value product and given that the UK has proper wages and conditions it can't be that much cheaper to make it there surely? We do, or at least did, have multiple Australian manufacturers of directly comparable product after all.

Some even stranger things do happen though. I've spotted imported cement being sold and that's rather silly. It's high mass, low value and we've got several cement plants in Australia in Qld, NSW, SA and Tas (might also be some elsewhere). That's raw cement production as distinct from concrete mixing plants of which there are many all over the place.

It's not impossible to obtain imported coal either by the way. I've seen Chinese product for sale as well as German. That's small volumes being sold retail not train loads of it etc. :2twocents
 
Retail is shot.
Never seen it this bad. I'm surprised shopfront business has survived at all. Literally zero traffic in majority of stores.
 
Retail is shot.
Never seen it this bad. I'm surprised shopfront business has survived at all. Literally zero traffic in majority of stores.

I think a lot of people are still not getting it, this Virus going to reshape our world, I can only see a dead cat approaching the ceiling and then falling a couple of floors down the stairwell
 
Retail is shot.
Never seen it this bad. I'm surprised shopfront business has survived at all. Literally zero traffic in majority of stores.

Been watching @moXJO reports from the street with interest over the last few weeks.

I live in the St George area, south of Sydney, closest shops to me is the strip of small businesses and very small shopping centre (Woolies/Aldi/Bakers Delight) at Kogarah Station.

Today I was craving a pizza so bad. Decided to order a "No Contact Pickup" pizza from the local Pizza Hut.

Walked down there about an hour ago, you would have no idea there was social distancing measures in place.

Loooots of people walking around, buying stuff, all the shops open. Old people, young people, you name it.

I would estimate about 30-40% wearing masks.

Complacency reigns.
 
Been watching @moXJO reports from the street with interest over the last few weeks.

I live in the St George area, south of Sydney, closest shops to me is the strip of small businesses and very small shopping centre (Woolies/Aldi/Bakers Delight) at Kogarah Station.

Today I was craving a pizza so bad. Decided to order a "No Contact Pickup" pizza from the local Pizza Hut.

Walked down there about an hour ago, you would have no idea there was social distancing measures in place.

Loooots of people walking around, buying stuff, all the shops open. Old people, young people, you name it.

I would estimate about 30-40% wearing masks.

Complacency reigns.
In W.A Perth Southern suburb 10k's from CBD, very quiet, not many people at the shopping centre and people definitely following distancing rules.
Same goes for Mandurah, social distancing very obvious, everyone conforming, pretty impressive really.
McGowan isn't talking in a friendly manner, he comes over as "no crap will be tolerated", no mixed message there at all.
 
Perth weather is real warm atm so I ventured down the local pool shop for some chlorine the owner reckons business is good....went through BWS as well
2birds
Disclaimer
Pool was fine
 
A lot of traffic today. It's been relatively quiet prior. Has seemed like an uptick in the amount of people about.

Was in a cashflush suburb today. A lot of people on the streets, lined up to get into the stores. 2 min drive down the road and it was absolutely empty.

Everyone is out on fitness walks though. Must all be sick of sitting around the house.

Talking to a car salesman and they are hurting. Anyone after a bargain, go turn the screws.
 
Glad your pool is ok, will take any good news in this current climate.

Bunnings, Officeworks are still flying at the moment, its almost like xmas time, Coles also still doing well.

Shopping centres though are very quiet, clothing stores etc seem to be hit particularly bad.
 
Listening to the press conferences of Government/health/police I get the feeling that some police officers & politicians are enjoying the restrictions a bit too much.

The Tas premier seemed to be gloating about having "helicopters in the air" to spot anyone actually enjoying themselves and the NSW Police Commissioner was equally pleased about the tickets his troopers handed out.

Although most people appear to be compliant, if I were those in government I wouldn't assume that the rather heavy handed restrictions would win them votes come the next elections.
 
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