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Net migration target missed as students keep coming, too few leave
A raft of government reforms to slow the rate of net migration have been slow to take hold as more students arrive and fewer leave.
The state of the economy at the street level
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Let's be honest, a pizz poor education system is the only sustainable export we have, until it is worthless. Lol
Net migration target missed as students keep coming, too few leave
A raft of government reforms to slow the rate of net migration have been slow to take hold as more students arrive and fewer leave.www.afr.com
Where it is heading.
Australia's underlying economy is a basket case, it has taken 30 years, but finally the chooks are come home to roost. Lol
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some have valuable talents , given the ( lack of ) loyalty in some corporations , i can't blame them for jumping early to a better lily-pad
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what did they expect , they created the loophole , but don't worry they will leave once wealthy enoughNet migration target missed as students keep coming, too few leave
A raft of government reforms to slow the rate of net migration have been slow to take hold as more students arrive and fewer leave.
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the number of taxi drivers i have ridden with that are nearly finished ( or have completed ) an automotive engineering degree , makes me wonder when we are going to start making cars or motorcycles again ( because those guys did NOT sound like they were saving up to return to Indian or Pakistan )
God this statement reminded me about taxi drivers from Cuba. They all have medical degrees.
Education is cooked. It's full of marxist thinking tossers that love bureaucracy over competence.
Universities need to start pushing excellence again. I'd start by banning any Communist/Marxist propaganda on campus. Instant removal of anyone pushing it. It should be treated like Nazism.
Critical thinking and innovation need to be at the forefront.
Streets are very violent at the moment. Lots of fights happening everywhere. Lots of guys I know are training because of it.
society seems to have overstepped its mark regarding men. Feels like it wouldn't take much to band them together.
Governments need to be careful here. There's some real anger out there.
We are starting to see some of it come out beyond the internet (eg.Banning of Dan Andrews, there's been violence against activists).
We had the CEO in the US shot and it feels like it opened a door that was always locked before. But "accountability" may be the word of 2025.
society seems to have overstepped its mark regarding men. Feels like it wouldn't take much to band them together.
Governments need to be careful here. There's some real anger out there.
We are starting to see some of it come out beyond the internet (eg.Banning of Dan Andrews, there's been violence against activists).
We had the CEO in the US shot and it feels like it opened a door that was always locked before. But "accountability" may be the word of 2025.
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It will never happen, while the driving ideology is quantity, not quality.
Universities have become a money making sausage machines, to slow down production of sausages flies in the face of the model.
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Disenfranchised youth, is the hardest situation for structured societies to deal with, as the Vietnam anti war protests in the U.S showed back in the 60's and 70's.
As you say Governments are walking on eggs at the moment, not a good time when all the news is bad news, for the young workers.
It's an Interesting situation, they have to get the cost of housing/rent down, because inflating wages is only increasing the gap and increasing the despair.
A very nasty positive feedback loop has developed, where housing/rent has become the goto investment with the highest return and the young are the sacrificial lambs so to speak.
How it gets sorted is anyone's guess, but IMO it wont be easy, Keating had the luxury of being able to float the dollar which instantly gave us a huge cost advantage as the currency value fell about 40% so our exports surged and doing business here became cheap.
Now we don't have a lot of levers to make the situation easier for the young to get ahead, so the feeling of hopelessness increases, very awkward situation.
Only my thoughts.
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The " unreadable " Mein Kampf was banned in the country of my birth for decades so I couldn't get my hands on it as a kid ( and I guess the family had frantically burned their own copies of it , as the Allies approached ) , but I did have a good go at Das Kapital . Pol Pot ploughed through it while still a student in Paris , but I only got as far as the price of corn in 1860's Birmingham or something , then had to just let it go .
Banning stuff ....nah , not a good idea , I think
You can read it all you want at home. But don't sprout it to impressionable minds at universities. US ones are a basket case from it. It's obviously having a negative effect over there. For some reason the ones with mental health issues gravitate towards it.
Interesting that Thailand is having a similar problem with young men. It's very noticeable lately.Disenfranchised youth, is the hardest situation for structured societies to deal with, as the Vietnam anti war protests in the U.S showed back in the 60's and 70's.
As you say Governments are walking on eggs at the moment, not a good time when all the news is bad news, for the young workers.
It's an Interesting situation, they have to get the cost of housing/rent down, because inflating wages is only increasing the gap and increasing the despair.
A very nasty positive feedback loop has developed, where housing/rent has become the goto investment with the highest return and the young are the sacrificial lambs so to speak.
How it gets sorted is anyone's guess, but IMO it wont be easy, Keating had the luxury of being able to float the dollar which instantly gave us a huge cost advantage as the currency value fell about 40% so our exports surged and doing business here became cheap.
Now we don't have a lot of levers to make the situation easier for the young to get ahead, so the feeling of hopelessness increases, very awkward situation.
Only my thoughts.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trav...d/news-story/b28431eff330b653c30ce6ef4290bb42
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When you read the headlines posted below, you have to wonder where the wheels have fallen off.
Over recent years Australia has poured more and more money into social agendas, yet the young feel disenfranchised.
Why?
My personal opinion is that not every young person wants to be funnelled down the sausage track, but there isn't any other track, so they are caught up in this educational lunacy, where a lot feel completely helpless as they are swept along in the rip with no way of getting out.
We need to take a step back to the future IMO, but that isn't going to happen until the current career politicians move out to pasture on their final average salary pensions.
Fortunately those politicians who still qualify for that system, are coming to the end of their careers.
I'm guessing the next generation, will bring a different perspective to the game, hopefully it is a breath of fresh air, we can certainly do with it IMO.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article...lian-teens-being-radicalised-online/h5onlx29w
Every Australian terrorist attack, disruption and suspected terrorist incident in 2024 was perpetrated by a young person, Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) director-general Mike Burgess said, and one in five priority counter-terrorism cases managed by ASIO involve young people
They can blame "online radicalisation" all they want but ultimately it's the way governments have treated men and the direction they have led society in general.When you read the headlines posted below, you have to wonder where the wheels have fallen off.
Over recent years Australia has poured more and more money into social agendas, yet the young feel disenfranchised.
Why?
My personal opinion is that not every young person wants to be funnelled down the sausage track, but there isn't any other track, so they are caught up in this educational lunacy, where a lot feel completely helpless as they are swept along in the rip with no way of getting out.
We need to take a step back to the future IMO, but that isn't going to happen until the current career politicians move out to pasture on their final average salary pensions.
Fortunately those politicians who still qualify for that system, are coming to the end of their careers.
I'm guessing the next generation, will bring a different perspective to the game, hopefully it is a breath of fresh air, we can certainly do with it IMO.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article...lian-teens-being-radicalised-online/h5onlx29w
Every Australian terrorist attack, disruption and suspected terrorist incident in 2024 was perpetrated by a young person, Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) director-general Mike Burgess said, and one in five priority counter-terrorism cases managed by ASIO involve young people
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I'm not sure it is a direct result of the way "men" are treated, when I was growing up the way men behaved was not acceptable and did have to be changed.
Also I think men, if they have a purpose and an achievable goals, tend to move on pretty quickly and adapt.
For example when I was a young bloke, if there was a skimpy in a bar the blokes were pretty raucous, these days it is only the old blokes that even give the skimpy a second glance young blokes are noticeably disinterested.
I personally think the problem is, the situation that has developed, where there are very few options for young blokes, other than to continue at school.
Which then puts them under immense pear pressure, if they aren't academically gifted, so their frustration at the knowledge they are heading to a cliff causes a lot of personal stress for them and leads to bad choices and bad outcomes.
The Govt's needs to get back into taking apprentices on again and building social services, gainfully employ people rather than trying to make welfare a life choice after university, it isn't working, humans have to be gainfully employed.
What's the old saying about idle hands?
Just my two cents worth, from personal experiences.
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I wouldn't be leaving any short pieces of rope lying around you blokes geezus, I talk to young fellas almost daily nothing as you describe maybe WA is different.
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The young fellas you talk to are living the dream, bought a cheap house in Dawsville 5_10years ago and are either fifo or working for roofing contractors replacing rotted out gutters. Lol
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Nope all ages from primary school through to 40 year old's you should get out more.
The problem people (men) are our age I meet a fair few absolute self absorbed tosses whining continually what makes them stand out is most people around me are pretty relaxed and genuinely nice people.
Are you sure?
I talk to a lot of the fly in miners and they are one of the most depressed socially isolated guys I know. Are you just surface level talking to them?
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I have 4 kids most with partners and 8 grandkids, who live in all levels of society and range from 4 years old to 46 years old.Nope all ages from primary school through to 40 year old's you should get out more.
The problem people (men) are our age I meet a fair few absolute self absorbed tosses whining continually what makes them stand out is most people around me are pretty relaxed and genuinely nice people.
They live from Midland in social housing, down to South of Collie on acreage, so a pretty wide demographic
I also socialise with heaps of people in Mandurah, from people who live on the canals to people who live under the bridge, so I actually think I get a fairly wide exposure to society, my observations maybe incorrect and everything maybe fine.
Time will tell.
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