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The state of the economy at the street level

Behind a paywall. Summary, those blaming a particular generation for all the woes i.e you've got it and I want it syndrome, are not looking at the issue properly.

  • In the naughties, boomers were castigated for fuelling a fiscal crisis because it was predicted that, as they aged, they would be a drain on the public purse (pensions, hospitals etc) and become a “burden” on younger workers.
  • They were blamed for not saving enough for their retirement, even though superannuation came in when they were halfway through their working lives.
  • Fewer than 10 per cent of boomers benefited from the fabled free university education. For the most part, only the children of the privileged middle-class attended university in the late 1970s and 1980s.
  • Many boomers, anxious about their children’s future, are responsible for a very large transfer of wealth through the bank of mum and dad.
  • Those landlords putting up rents for young people? Most of them are Gen Xers and Millennials. And the fastest growing category of homelessness is not among 20-somethings but among women over 55, baby boomers.
  • There are rich boomers and there are poor boomers and many in between. For the generational warmongers, the rich-poor divide has been displaced onto a manufactured generational divide.
  • Most top decision makers today, in politics, business, the media, are Gen Xers and Millennials. Perhaps Millennials and Gen Xers might turn to their brothers and sisters who now run the country and ask them to create a fairer society.

 

As a millennial, who grew up when they still referred to us as Get Y, I don't think we started the Generation war, for most of our 20's we were trash talked by the Boomers.

As for Boomer Wealth, I don't see it as a problem, the Boomer generation is in the process of drawing down their nest eggs, and as they die the residual amounts flows down to the Millennials and X'ers. The Z's will get their share in turn.

To me it's quite natural that the older generations that have been adulting for 40+ years should be richer than those who are in their first decade of adulting. But each generation will faces its own problems, and the Millennials have faced their share.
 
Talking to the owner of our local. He says things have dropped off quite a bit after the end of September. This, despite my attempts to make it an outstanding success
 
Department stores seem to be struggling:

I think people underestimated the WFH and related sea and tree move of the most affluent part of the population
As the richer population move to Noosa ,Byron or wherever, there are only a few shopping trips to the David Jones of Australia, replaced by the daily weekly trips to more local outlets .
Bored stay at home wives will spend differently either internet or more local outside big cities malls IMHO.
The stuck in the cities suburban working crowd does not have matching $power of the retired or sea moved "elite"
 
More and more people seem to be struggling to pay energy bills.
From Evil Murdoch press
This is despite being told numerous times that renewables are cheaper by numerous politicians and economists.
The rhetoric is so far removed from reality, and unfortunately for those who have to cope with the reality, will have devastating consequences.
Mick
 
That really depends on how greedy the generators are going to be and how much competition there is. It doesn't look good at the moment
True but sadly renewable are actually really expensive, especially when they are needed and absent
Germany spent nearly a trillion if I am not wrong in the last 20y going green, I believe the part of their energy consumption being green has not moved more than 5% and they have restarted coal power plant...
You can not have cheap green energy 24/7
 
Agreed with the point but as someone who's watched the whole thing, there's far more to it than the means of generation.

Hence my posts on the subject dating back prior to any significant use of renewables. The problem is far more fundamental than that - a return to coal, or going nuclear, will not of itself fix it for that reason. Indeed the present situation effectively precludes building either of those anyway - not for political reasons but due to the electricity industry's present structure and operation being very different from that required to support coal or nuclear. That's one reason for the closures.

I'll leave it at that since it's somewhat off the thread subject but suffice to say whilst some issues do exist regarding the technology of generation, the problems are far deeper than that and we're not done yet with all the drama - nothing moves in a straight line, there may well be periods when it goes in the opposite direction, but we're not done yet. Oh no we're not.....
 
Spending in the september quarter was up a measly 0.2 %.
From Evil Murdoch press
Were it not for the increases in govt spending, we would be headed for a recession,
ABS head of national accounts Katherine Keenan said the key drivers for the economy was spending by the government, which increased 1.1 per cent for the September quarter after a 0.6 per cent increase in the June quarter.
And of course, were it not for immigration, the figures would be even worse, as per capita GDP fell by 0.5% for the second quarter , the scond fall n a row.

“The growth in government expenditure was driven by social benefits to households, including the Energy Bill Relief Fund rebates, and extra payments for childcare, aged care and pharmaceutical products,” Ms Keenan said.
Higher interest rates and cost of living pressures is being felt by households, with the ABS noting that saving to income ratio fell for the eighth straight quarter to 1.1 per cent, its lowest level since December quarter 2007.
“The removal of the Low and Middle Income Tax Offset in the 2022-23 financial year meant many households had a higher income tax bill this quarter, which has contributed to the fall in the household saving ratio,” Ms Keenan said.

“Increased interest paid on home loans and inflationary pressure on households were also likely factors behind the fall in the household savings ratio.”

Imports of travel services rose 19.5 per cent as more Australians travelled overseas during the Northern Hemisphere summer.

Export prices for coal and LNG fell as global supplies increased. This resulted in a fall in mining profits (-6.5 per cent) and drove the 2.6 per cent fall in the terms of trade over the quarter.

Mick
 
Looks like the banks will have to be careful, or they will be in trouble for lending to those who can least afford it again.


More people looking to break into the property market are lying on their loan applications — by either overstating their income or understating their expenses — in desperation to try to secure a home loan, according to new data.

Sean Quagliani, the co-founder of financial technology company Fortiro, which big banks and other lenders use to help them detect fraudulent documents, says since interest rates started rising about a year and a half ago, there has been a threefold increase in people lying on home loan applications.
 
Yea, they would want to be careful.
look what happened to Trump when he exaggerated his property values.
Mick
 
that makes a change from the reverse situation ( where they angle for sub-prime rates and bridging finance )
 
There was a discussion about the stage 3 tax cuts a while back.
According to Tax return , it was going to cost the government 18 billon a year , most of which would go to the wealthy.
And yet in todays AFR , Jim Chalmers mid year staement has a windfall increase in revenue of some 64billion.
Most of this improvement is due to a $30 billion surge in personal income tax from a strong labour market and other tax payments by individuals, as well as higher mining and non-mining corporate profits.
So, the Tax cuts that were going to cause havoc by costing the guvmint 20 bill in tax foregone, has been wiped out by a factor of 50%.
And this is only going to increase, as more and more suckers get caught in bracket creep.
These increases are not going away.
other parts of the income stream, company tax, royalties etc can wax and wane, but the only way the PAYE tax goes down is for a bunch of people to lose their jobs, or shift to lower paid ones.
If that happens, bracket creep will be the least of our worries.
Mick
 

The tax system is broke and unfair.

My wife and I are selling a rental property to our daughter, we are not receiving market value which is so high most youth struggle to get a decent home, instead we are selling at fair value to family. The tax system is not designed to help family.

Stamp duty has to be paid at market value and our capital gains tax also has to be paid at market value, even though the difference is hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The government are going to get a big chunk of money from us that would and should have gone into our retirement fund.

Sale put on a short hold for now, while we look at our options which are very limited.

As Kerry Packer once said, " As a government I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be paying extra."

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have you been utilising a discounted "family rate" depreciation schedule, or maybe holding back a bit on the interest claimed against your tax (gearing ), all along?
 
In which way is this unfair? Seriously?
Allowing fake sale at artificial price would be an absolute scam.
Sell full price , pay the due taxes as everyone does and gift the money or some of the money to your daughter if you will.
I am no friend of the ATO here but really?
 
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