The ScoMo Government

[bellenuit]

The speech was relevant because it highlighted the rank hypocrisy Tony Abbott and the Libs showed by endorsing Peter Slipper during that sex harassment stuff.
Abbott was more than happy to accept Slippers' vote when he challenged Malcolm Turnbull.
It was the one vote that got him the job as opposition leader.
It was a bit much for Abbott to then attack the Labor Govt for not standing Slipper down from the role of speaker during those investigations which were later thrown out anyway.

Yes, but that is just run of the mill politics. What Gillard did was make a personal attack on Abbott that was completely unjustified.

 

[PZ99]

Yes, but that is just run of the mill politics. What Gillard did was make a personal attack on Abbott that was completely unjustified.

I looked upon it as payback.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes, but that is just run of the mill politics. What Gillard did was make a personal attack on Abbott that was completely unjustified.

It set her up for the post politics, talk circuit. IMO
Abbott was just in the wrong place at the right time, if Turnbull was there he would have worn it, I reckon.

 

[SirRumpole]

Abbott is a self confessed liar and drunk.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/worl...being-drunk-in-parliament-for-vital-vote.html

 

[Ann]

Assuming you're in Melbourne or a large regional town that wouldn't surprise me although I'd be cautious in attributing it to the change in ownership.

I say that simply because someone in Tasmania (not privatised) would say much the same thing if reflecting upon the same periods of time.

It comes down old equipment being replaced with new equipment in transmission and distribution that's inherently more reliable as the old reached the end of its life plus modern technology enabling better monitoring in real time and thus earlier identification of problems etc.

So personally I wouldn't attribute it as being for or against any particular ownership model or a consequence of anything political on either side, it's more about asset life cycles and that modern equipment of all sorts is just more reliable.

Thanks Smurf, yes that sounds perfectly reasonable with more modern equipment doing a better job of monitoring. As they knew they were going to privatize why update the equipment? Blackouts made us a bit more prepared, I will never give up my box of matches and candle, although I need to update the matches every-so-often, the tips go soft and won't strike.

Here is what my little candle and match box holder looks like....small compact and useful.

 

[Darc Knight]

Labor remains in lead in Newspoll 53-47 despite asylum boats scare
Two-party-preferred result stays unchanged after Coalition suffers brutal week in parliament.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-in-newspoll-53-47-despite-asylum-boats-scare

I still think ScoMo will win.

 

[overhang]

From what I've read, they were great mates, I could be wrong but Im sure I read it.

Abbott went and congratulated Gillard during the unveiling of her portrait at parliament house late last year. I'm no fan of Abbott but I thought that was honorable given the company he found himself in while waiting to shake Gillards hand.

 

[Knobby22]

Abbott went and congratulated Gillard during the unveiling of her portrait at parliament house late last year. I'm no fan of Abbott but I thought that was honorable given the company he found himself in while waiting to shake Gillards hand.

Poor Julia had to pretend smile. He grandstanded in front of everyone. Couldn't get him off the stage. Tragic fellow.

 

[sptrawler]

Labor remains in lead in Newspoll 53-47 despite asylum boats scare
Two-party-preferred result stays unchanged after Coalition suffers brutal week in parliament.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-in-newspoll-53-47-despite-asylum-boats-scare

I still think ScoMo will win.

For the sake of my retirement I hope you are right.lol

 

[qldfrog]

For the sake of my child, i hope you are right DK

 

[SirRumpole]

For the sake of my child, i hope you are right DK

Your child might need penalty rates to pay their way through uni.

 

[qldfrog]

My child might get a job, have a country, be able to eat pork and go in a swimming pool with his girlfriend
Unemployed do not care much of penalty rates.
for the time being, he is trying to get a job but can not get one, as being above 18yold, he can not compete with younger teenagers who are below minimum wages...ahh the miracle of socialism...

 

[SirRumpole]

he can not compete with younger teenagers who are below minimum wages...ahh the miracle of socialism...

Sorry, paying less than the minimum wage is free enterprise not socialism.

 

[PZ99]

Sorry, paying less than the minimum wage is free enterprise not socialism.

Correct.

And finding work is a job in itself - I had to move a long way from home to find a decent job.
I then had to travel a long way every day to keep it.

If you're being paid dole money to find a job, then do it.

 

[qldfrog]

Sorry, paying less than the minimum wage is free enterprise not socialism.

but not being able to compete because you are 18+ and no employer can pay you that same rate unless risking jail is not.
I hope you understand the situation..a real life 2019 qld experience
And this is not free enterprise is it, my son would work legally for $15 per hour...but he is not allowed

 

[qldfrog]

n

Correct.

And finding work is a job in itself - I had to move a long way from home to find a decent job.
I then had to travel a long way every day to keep it.

If you're being paid dole money to find a job, then do it.

no dole money, have to wait 21y old because as dad has a company...even if there is not a cent paid to him....this is socialism...

 

[PZ99]

n

no dole money, have to wait 21y old because as dad has a company...even if there is not a cent paid to him....this is socialism...

Not qualifying for dole money doesn't sound like socialism to me.
Socialism would be to pay everyone the dole whether they're working or not.

But yeah - it's tough to find work without it so I can sympathise with that.

I would suggest he do as I did. Move to Western Sydney and work unskilled for $22 a hour.

There is a truck load of work here. Hope it works out

 

[basilio]

The black economy ? Cash in hand, under award jobs ? Plenty of employers are happy to oblige. In fact the whole point of the working visa for overseas people is to find a workforce that will do what is wanted at whatever price is offered.

In theory, on paper these working visitors should be getting Australian awards and conditions. In practice that is joke. The hospitality industry and the farming community are rife with underpayment.

 

[bellenuit]

Socialism would be to pay everyone the dole whether they're working or not.

That's the advertisement, until they get into power. Then there is no dole for anyone.

 

[Humid]

My child might get a job, have a country, be able to eat pork and go in a swimming pool with his girlfriend
Unemployed do not care much of penalty rates.
for the time being, he is trying to get a job but can not get one, as being above 18yold, he can not compete with younger teenagers who are below minimum wages...ahh the miracle of socialism...

Unemployed give less than a rats ass about franking credits too