The ScoMo Government

[Darc Knight]

 

[explod]

They are going to drive down electricity prices is the latest, and the rant at the moment, and they talk jobs and more jobs,

but,

they do not tell us how. Cummorn HOW.

People are not that stupid and are questioning HOW.

Do not like the ALP and Shorten in particular but that is where we look like landing.

Having a bubbles tonight as we need to party real hard to blind ourselves and turn away from the crap that is our dreadful situation. And I have eight lovely Grandchildren.

 

[explod]

On the news again now 7.03pm 23/2....., but again. NO HOW,

cummorrn, substance wanted

 

[IFocus]

See that is what I don't like about journalists, and I haven't read the Guardian, but what ifocus posted tells me all about the Guardian.
I am no more a fan of Abbott, than any other politician, but I can't stand the abuse he cops.

SP admire your decency but its wasted on Abbott.

He is some one who's whole political career involved tearing down leaders both opposition and in his own party.

He was responsible for getting Hanson jailed raising a fund to do so and then lying about it.

Remember he was happy to stand in front of the placards Ditch the witch his minders didnt mind at all.

Lying is 1st nature to Abbott no cuts to the ABC, Health and education...........really?

He deserves all he reaps 1st dog was actually very kind.

 

[Smurf1976]

I am no more a fan of Abbott, than any other politician, but I can't stand the abuse he cops.
I am yet to see anyone post any footage of media outburst, that shows Abbott to be what the media have portrayed.

I've met him once only.

Whilst not a lover of his political views I couldn't say that anything about him seemed unreasonable as a person on that occasion.

I've certainly met some far worse people in and associated with politics that's for sure. There's a few outright nasty ones that come to mind......

 

[Smurf1976]

They are going to drive down electricity prices is the latest, and the rant at the moment, and they talk jobs and more jobs,

but,

they do not tell us how.

In the context of electricity they're introducing "default" prices for residential and small businesses in SA, NSW and south-east Qld.

That's not formal price control as such, retailers can still offer any other price they want, but they have to offer the "default" price and that becomes effectively a cap on pricing assuming nobody would choose to pay higher than the freely available default.

 

[Bill M]

Love it, I couldn't have said it better myself. I've met him a few times when I was living on the northern beaches and like the old fella said.....d.......d

 

[SirRumpole]

That's not formal price control as such, retailers can still offer any other price they want, but they have to offer the "default" price and that becomes effectively a cap on pricing assuming nobody would choose to pay higher than the freely available default.

As you say, it's regulation by default and an admission that "market forces" have failed in this case.

 

[sptrawler]

As you say, it's regulation by default and an admission that "market forces" have failed in this case.

It is a mess, that has become a nightmare, as the push to renewables leaves everyone with a hand full of 2's.
But someone has to carry them.lol
Just shows essential services, should be Government owned, for the people by the people.
Water and electricity, should never be privatised.IMO

 

[sptrawler]

Love it, I couldn't have said it better myself. I've met him a few times when I was living on the northern beaches and like the old fella said.....d.......d

Well Bill, that is good to know, I've never met him only seen him on the t.v.
I've always thought he hasn't deserved the media bashing he gets, but if you've met him and reckon he is a DH that's good enough for me, you seem pretty measured in your decision making.
I'll take it the media is right then.

 

[Ann]

Water and electricity, should never be privatised.IMO

Agreed! (This would have been a like but I am trying to wean myself off likes! )
One thing I have noticed since they privatized electricity (in Victoria) there haven't been the same quantity of blackouts. I always kept a candle and a box of matches in an accessible area. I still keep it but haven't used it for years. I also made all my cooking and hot water gas. My oven has gone phut, poor old thing and do you think I am having a devil of a time to find a new gas oven. To go electric would mean having to re-wire the house, no thanks!

 

[Zaxon]

I've never met him only seen him on the t.v.

You'd have to ask yourself about Julia Gillard's misogyny speech directed towards Tony Abbott. Tony is either a misogynist, or else Julia give a big speech for no reason. Something to think about.

 

[sptrawler]

Agreed! (This would have been a like but I am trying to wean myself off likes! )
One thing I have noticed since they privatized electricity (in Victoria) there haven't been the same quantity of blackouts. I always kept a candle and a box of matches in an accessible area. I still keep it but haven't used it for years. I also made all my cooking and hot water gas. My oven has gone phut, poor old thing and do you think I am having a devil of a time to find a new gas oven. To go electric would mean having to re-wire the house, no thanks!

Pm smurph, he will put you on the right track.

 

[sptrawler]

You'd have to ask yourself about Julia Gillard's misogyny speech directed towards Tony Abbott. Tony is either a misogynist, or else Julia give a big speech for no reason. Something to think about.

From what I've read, they were great mates, I could be wrong but Im sure I read it.

 

[Knobby22]

You'd have to ask yourself about Julia Gillard's misogyny speech directed towards Tony Abbott. Tony is either a misogynist, or else Julia give a big speech for no reason. Something to think about.

How can Tony Abbott be a misogynist?
He made himself the minister for women when PM[emoji38] as there wernt any women good enough for the job.

 

[bellenuit]

Sh

You'd have to ask yourself about Julia Gillard's misogyny speech directed towards Tony Abbott. Tony is either a misogynist, or else Julia give a big speech for no reason. Something to think about.

She gave a big speech for no reason other than to deflect attention from Labor’s defence of Slipper, I think. She offered 2 or maybe 3 examples of his so called misogyny. One was the time someone behind him had a banner calling Gillard a witch, when he spoke outside parliament. Another was that he looked at his watch when she was speaking. Don’t ever underestimate the ability of some female politicians to play the sexist card when it suits them.

Quite telling was the clip of Gillard’s speech that the ABC posted on YouTube at the time. They disabled the ability for anyone to comment on the video, thus ensuring no one could come to the defence of Abbott or explain the context of why Gillard decided to attack him.

 

[SirRumpole]

Quite telling was the clip of Gillard’s speech that the ABC posted on YouTube at the time. They disabled the ability for anyone to comment on the video, thus ensuring no one could come to the defence of Abbott or explain the context of why Gillard decided to attack him.

The ABC have now disabled comments on all news stories on their web site.

Very undemocratic.

Apparently they expect people to use Facecr@p. Supporting a commercial operation, possibly in violation of its charter.

 

[sptrawler]

I was really shocked and suprised by the Gillard speach, but it has probably stood her in good stead, since her departure.

 

[Smurf1976]

One thing I have noticed since they privatized electricity (in Victoria) there haven't been the same quantity of blackouts.

Assuming you're in Melbourne or a large regional town that wouldn't surprise me although I'd be cautious in attributing it to the change in ownership.

I say that simply because someone in Tasmania (not privatised) would say much the same thing if reflecting upon the same periods of time.

It comes down old equipment being replaced with new equipment in transmission and distribution that's inherently more reliable as the old reached the end of its life plus modern technology enabling better monitoring in real time and thus earlier identification of problems etc.

So personally I wouldn't attribute it as being for or against any particular ownership model or a consequence of anything political on either side, it's more about asset life cycles and that modern equipment of all sorts is just more reliable.

 

[PZ99]

Sh

She gave a big speech for no reason other than to deflect attention from Labor’s defence of Slipper, I think. She offered 2 or maybe 3 examples of his so called misogyny. One was the time someone behind him had a banner calling Gillard a witch, when he spoke outside parliament. Another was that he looked at his watch when she was speaking. Don’t ever underestimate the ability of some female politicians to play the sexist card when it suits them.

Quite telling was the clip of Gillard’s speech that the ABC posted on YouTube at the time. They disabled the ability for anyone to comment on the video, thus ensuring no one could come to the defence of Abbott or explain the context of why Gillard decided to attack him.

The speech was relevant because it highlighted the rank hypocrisy Tony Abbott and the Libs showed by endorsing Peter Slipper during that sex harassment stuff.
Abbott was more than happy to accept Slippers' vote when he challenged Malcolm Turnbull.
It was the one vote that got him the job as opposition leader.
It was a bit much for Abbott to then attack the Labor Govt for not standing Slipper down from the role of speaker during those investigations which were later thrown out anyway.

But as for meeting Abbott face to face and avoiding politics I can't think of any reason why he couldn't be a decent, well meaning human being.

Bark Latham? Different kettle of surströmming altogether