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XAO down to 6000
NASDAQ to 10000
You're not alone ?So annoyed I exited a short on the ASX futures a couple of days ago.
Knew there was a chance of a fall from this 200ma failure!
Should have stuck to my guns!!
Makes entry harder now!
There are probably many of us ?You're not alone ?
I’m 100% liquid!!RBA rate at >3.85% by EOY.
FED rate at 4% (0.75, 0.5, 0.5) by EOY.
Oz inflation above 7% EOY.
US Inflation above 5% EOY .
Oz house prices -10% EOY.
IR rate cuts not before June ‘23.
...... unless the banks chicken out and give up on fighting inflation.
Powell likes Volkers strategy and looks to be committed.
Unfortunately I think things are going to get very bed over the next 6 months. Energy prices issues in Europe, market declines of >15% from here. Global recession.
‘Winter is coming’ and I wouldn’t like to be in Europe over the next 6 months !!!
All will be fine for Christmas 2023.
I’m not going to sell out of the market tho. Currently 10% - 15% cash/liquid which is ~18 months living costs. Using my liquidity to gain income from option trading.
Gunnerguy
(.... Be careful out there, it’s going to get very bumpy, and stay healthy and safe)
Just my opinion but I see it as akin to the captain informing the passengers that due to problems we're in for a very hard landing and to be ready to do whatever becomes necessary as circumstances evolve.Hard to know where we're headed now.
Not ridiculous at all Wayne. 2021 was always going to be a pivotal time target from years back. Only we didn't know if it was gonna be a high or low. My 2c worth and I apologize if I sound ultra bearish for the long term bulls, but the price action that is gonna unfold in the next few years is gonna shut up a lot of perma bulls in a range of markets that have been beating their chests the last few years. As they say " arrogance precedes distater"My ridiculous end of year XJO prediction suddenly looking achievable... *Might* be in for the trophy instead of the wooden spoon
If I had to guess, I would say we will follow the USA down on Monday, but whether its a week or a month away, the market is going to accept that the feds actions are in its best interests, and the stock market will stabilise as people realise that there is no better place to store their capital.Not ridiculous at all Wayne. 2021 was always going to be a pivotal time target from years back. Only we didn't know if it was gonna be a high or low. My 2c worth and I apologize if I sound ultra bearish for the long term bulls, but the price action that is gonna unfold in the next few years is gonna shut up a lot of perma bulls in a range of markets that have been beating their chests the last few years. As they say " arrogance precedes distater"
I just wonder how long the Fed will allow the markets to decline before reducing rates and printing more money. They have form.
The rest of everyone’s investment future started early Saturday morning our time with the speech from Fed head Jerome Powell that sent Wall St plunging.
When the dust had settled and Wall St traders headed shakily to the weekend, the Dow had gone down just over 1000 points, or 3 per cent – it’s biggest daily drop since May.
The tech-heavy Nasdaq Index was down 4 per cent. High octane stocks like Meta (Facebook) and Amazon got whacked. Bitcoin headed back towards $US20k ($29k).
Now, Powell seemed to give the sort of speech that traders did not expect and most certainly did not want to hear.
He seemed to say the Fed would do ‘whatever it takes’- as in, raising interest rates – to tame US inflation.
The smarter among observers would have noted that because the Biden administration had just embarked on a massively inflationary new spending program – laughingly and grotesquely called the “Inflation Reduction Act” – that had to mean US interest rates going even higher than previously anticipated or feared.
The legislation’s title is so obviously laughable, as it splashes ‘free’ money around like Americans have hardly seen, that even the administration and Democrats in Congress have taken to avoiding using the name.
So, was Powell really signalling more ‘slash and burn’ big interest rate rises, starting with the next Fed meeting on September 21?
I remain utterly unconvinced. He was in my judgment engaged in – rather desperately – reversing the famous bit of advice from former US president Teddy – not FDR – Roosevelt.
Teddy’s advice was to “speak softly and carry a big stick”.
Powell is trying to “speak loudly and carry a small stick”.
Powell said getting inflation down “would take some time”, that the Fed would act “forcefully”; and “we must keep at it until the job is done”.
That and more was all “speaking loudly”.
And he might have seemed to have wielded the “big stick” with the Fed’s two 75-point official rate rises at its last two meetings in June and July.
But on Wednesday, ahead of his big speech at the Fed’s annual Jackson Hole get-together in Wyoming, he seemed to deliberately and explicitly rule out any more 75-pointers.
Powell said Wednesday that future rate hikes larger than 50 basis points were “not something the Fed is actively considering”.
At best there’s a bit of mixed messaging between Wednesday and Friday. Wall St went up after Wednesday – continuing its strong recovery from June to be up nearly 15 per cent over the two months.
This had dragged our market up 11 per cent from its June low-point. Ahead of, of course, what happens on Monday.
Now, if only the messaging was clear-cut and could be believed, there would be a clear – and yes, unpleasant, but nevertheless clear – investment horizon. Most directly for shares, but also property.
But exactly as we’ve seen over the last few months, not only is the messaging – and the actual delivery of rate rises – murky; we also have to factor in the ‘dancing’ that takes place between Wall St and the Fed.
Broadly, the Fed signals it is going to get tough, it is going to hike rates, maybe even do “whatever it takes”.
Wall St throws a tantrum, trying to convince the Fed that “the cure – higher rates – is worse than the disease – inflation”.
And knowing, knowing, the Fed will respond.
It always has in the past – most spectacularly after the GFC, when it first slashed rates to zero and started its multi-trillion-dollar money printing that sent share and property prices soaring.
And not just in America. The reason we’ve got million-dollar properties scattered through our major capital cities is a direct consequence of what the Fed has been doing since 2008.
So what the Fed does – and just as importantly, does not – do in coming months, indeed years, plays directly into not just where our share market goes but our property market as well.
Even though that impact gets “mediated’’ through what our Reserve Bank does with its own official rate and the flow-through to bank home loan rates.
The impossibility of sensible prediction is a cocktail of two things.
The first is that whole Fed-Wall St interplay.
The second is that the whole world has changed around it.
The entire European continent has got existential problems with energy built on inflation much higher than in the US or indeed in Australia.
The Chinese growth miracle that has underwritten the global economies and even more dramatically our own since 2000 is teetering if not collapsing. With its zero-Covid policy coming on top.
And then we’ve got our own issues – inflation, rising rates, the Covid hangover, in spades, etc etc – and a government embarked on rapid energy suicide.
It’s at best a ‘volatile mix’.
TERRY MCCRANN BUSINESS COMMENTATOR
Just my opinion but they'll keep raising rates until something breaks.I just wonder how long the Fed will allow the markets to decline before reducing rates and printing more money. They have form.
Worth keeping an eye on pre-market US future's currently down -331 points (as to continuation of selling momentum from last Friday night?)Down 2%, so far, isn't too bad. Just wonder if there'll be follow through in the EU and US on their Mondays...
Would be nice if it holds above this general support line, but looks pretty vulnerable.
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