The NRA

[MrBurns]

I disagree. Americans see the right to bear arms as the same as freedom of speech. For many, who don't even own guns, they still believe that someone should have the right that right. They certainly won't believe that the government should be allowed to take that right away.

Just look at the support for handguns...Even assault weapons, which outside the theatre of war have zero use, still manage to get 50% support.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/Record-Low-Favor-Handgun-Ban.aspx

If only 26% favour gun control then let them take the consequences.

BUT -

Something as important as this deserves a referendum, polls can be manipulated.

If a referendum shows the same figures then 26% better move elsewhere, discussion over.

 

[McLovin]

If only 26% favour gun control then let them take the consequences.

BUT -

Something as important as this deserves a referendum, polls can be manipulated.

If a referendum shows the same figures then 26% better move elsewhere, discussion over.

26% favour handgun control, not gun control.

The US Constitution isn't changed by referendum. What's the point of wasting money asking a question when the answer is already known?

The number of people who would want the Second Amendment repealed, I'd hazard, would be less than 10%.

 

[MrBurns]

26% favour handgun control, not gun control.

The US Constitution isn't changed by referendum.

The number of people who would want the Second Amendment repealed, I'd hazard, would be less than 10%.

They seem ready to deal with assault (rapid fire) weapons for a start, at least thats something, more damage is done wth those than single shot weapons.

 

[McLovin]

They seem ready to deal with assault (rapid fire) weapons for a start, at least thats something, more damage is done wth those than single shot weapons.

I don't disagree with you Burnsie. What I'm saying is that guns will still be easily available, relatively and absolutely. Assault weapons are indefensible, even for the most ardent gun rights supporter. Getting rid of 30 round magazines would probably be a good move too. The bigger problem is handguns. What happened in Sandy Hook is the big news but the majority of gun homicides are with handguns.

While there are a few exceptions I don't see why the average person or even recreational hunter needs access to these sort of firearms, which Lanza used.

 

[MrBurns]

I don't disagree with you Burnsie. What I'm saying is that guns will still be easily available, relatively and absolutely. Assault weapons are indefensible, even for the most ardent gun rights supporter. Getting rid of 30 round magazines would probably be a good move too. The bigger problem is handguns. What happened in Sandy Hook is the big news but the majority of gun homicides are with handguns.

While there are a few exceptions (animal culling etc) I don't see why the average person needs access to these sort of firearms, which Lanza used.

Unless you're on a farm or in law enforcement there's no need for anyone to have guns, I agree.

It will take decades to sort things out but if they don't start they'll never finish.

I cant recall any massacre of this type being prevented by an intended victim using a gun of their own.

 

[banco]

With 300 million guns in circulation effective gun control is already a moot point in the US.

 

[Tink]

Obama Asks Supporters to Push Congress on Gun Control

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/obama-asks-supporters-to-push-congress-on-gun-control/

President Obama sought on Friday to enlist supporters to mount a public lobbying campaign on behalf of gun control in the wake of the mass killings in Newtown, Conn., suggesting that Congress would listen only if forced to by a populist backlash to gun violence.

In a video posted on the White House Web site, Mr. Obama responded to a petition demanding action on gun control. “We hear you,” the president said as he again vowed to push to Congress in the new year to ban assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips.

“I can’t do it alone,” he added. “I need your help. If we’re going to succeed, it’s going to take a sustained effort from mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, law enforcement and responsible gun owners, organizing, speaking up, calling their members of Congress as many times as it takes, standing up and saying enough on behalf of all our kids. That’s how change happens.”

 

[CanOz]

The US is a hopeless basket case. Don't expect any meaningful change to the gun laws. If their gutless politicians want to continue to see 34 of their citizens get shot every single day then so be it.


CanOz

 

[MrBurns]

Just saw Mark (Chopper) Reid at Kmart, thought I might ask his opinion but he really is a knife man.

Wasn't sure at first but when he walked away I knew.......................right ear missing.

 

[CanOz]

Just saw Mark (Chopper) Reid at Kmart, thought I might ask his opinion but he really is a knife man.

Wasn't sure at first but when he walked away I knew.......................right ear missing.

ROTFLMAO!

Well done burnsy!

CanOz

 

[Joules MM1]

I don't disagree with you Burnsie. What I'm saying is that guns will still be easily available, relatively and absolutely. Assault weapons are indefensible, even for the most ardent gun rights supporter. Getting rid of 30 round magazines would probably be a good move too. The bigger problem is handguns. What happened in Sandy Hook is the big news but the majority of gun homicides are with handguns.

While there are a few exceptions I don't see why the average person or even recreational hunter needs access to these sort of firearms, which Lanza used.

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oh, look.....a purse-size weapon, nice! did they rip that out of charlton hestons dead wife's hands ?

 

[Joules MM1]

the new deal motto: NRA, Not Really American!

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

the new deal motto: NRA, Not Really American!

+1

gg

 

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Unless you're on a farm or in law enforcement there's no need for anyone to have guns, I agree.

It will take decades to sort things out but if they don't start they'll never finish.

I cant recall any massacre of this type being prevented by an intended victim using a gun of their own.

Well, you've read the NRA's response:
If everybody 3 years and older had an automatic assault rifle, the death toll could've been much lower.
Not sure though, how many would've been caught in the crossfire from scores of "good guys" defending themselves and trying to take the bad guy out. But they would then count as "collateral damage", not murder victims...

The mind boggles ...

PS: NRA = "Not Rational! Atrocious!"

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Well, you've read the NRA's response:
If everybody 3 years and older had an automatic assault rifle, the death toll could've been much lower.
Not sure though, how many would've been caught in the crossfire from scores of "good guys" defending themselves and trying to take the bad guy out. But they would then count as "collateral damage", not murder victims...

The mind boggles ...

+1

gg

 

[Sean K]

The NRA's stance doesn't fit logic. They're talking about a mini arms race, within small communities. We know that doesn't eventually work. Hand them ALL back.

 

[pixel]

the new deal motto: NRA, Not Really American!

or "Nutters Running Amuck".

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

or "Nutters Running Amuck".

+1

gg

 

[gav]

Obama Asks Supporters to Push Congress on Gun Control

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/obama-asks-supporters-to-push-congress-on-gun-control/

Well considering the success of Obama's "Operation Fast & Furious", I'm sure he'll do a great job on gun control...

 

[Ageo]

Unless you're on a farm or in law enforcement there's no need for anyone to have guns, I agree.

Burns as much as I agree that things needs to happen over there this statement is just plain stupid...

Shooting is and has always been an Olympic sport...

Millions and millions of people use firearms all around the world for recreation In a very safe manner, yet because "you" don't like them they should be banned.. You should re nickname yourself to "Mr fun police"