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That tax on 'alcopops' was absolutely rediculous!
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Make the most of being able to access that cheap cask, gg. The nanny state appears to be about to introduce a floor price on alcohol which will render the now cheap casks about three times more expensive.
The reason for this is the asinine suggestion that the aborigines specifically and other alcoholics will immediately desist from consuming this cask wine, their alcoholism magically having disappeared as a result of the price rise.
More likely they'll switch to other forms of alcohol which will, in quantity, be more harmful, or even seek solace in metho.
Meantime, many pensioners and others on low incomes, or for that matter just those who are happy to drink cask wine, will find it priced out of their budgets.
What elitist, illogical utter nonsense.
He he good on you Breaker. An experienced home brewer can produce a delicious sparkling ale for 10 to 15% the cost of the let's face it, fairly ordinaire mass production beers out there. One batch after another, cookie-cutter style, simple as.Maybe one should dust the still off
Wandering boy died in man's pool - is this manslaughter.
THE mother took her eyes off her toddler for a second. But it was enough time for the two-year-old boy to wander away, fall into a swimming pool and drown.
Now, in what is believed to be a nationwide first, Philip John Cameron, 61, has been charged with manslaughter because he did not adequately fence his pool.
Lets think of it differently. What about instead of a pool it was a large pit, a dozen meters deep with no barricade. Perhaps instead of a child it was an adult. The adult was walking home in the dark and took a short cut though this mans property. They fell down into the pit and suffered fatal injuries. Trespassing or the owners liability?
To a child, a pool looks inviting. In reality it is a death trap that by law, is to be fenced and LOCKED.
At 61 he'll probably get a suspended sentence, but the message must go out, fence your 'death trap' and lock the bloody fence.
CanOz
Trespassing.Lets think of it differently. What about instead of a pool it was a large pit, a dozen meters deep with no barricade. Perhaps instead of a child it was an adult. The adult was walking home in the dark and took a short cut though this mans property. They fell down into the pit and suffered fatal injuries. Trespassing or the owners liability?
Sure. So the parent has to be properly vigilant.To a child, a pool looks inviting.
Trespassing.
I think your being a bit rough in this case.
Passing a law to force people to properly fence their pools was a response to regular tragedies of children falling into backyard pools and drowning. I havn't got the figures but there would have many, many heartbreaks in the past.
Kids are curious, very quick to disappear and love water. Our community decided that we owed them some protection from their own vulnerability.
The tragedy of the childs death in the pool highlights what happened on a regular basis before mandatory pool fence laws were passed.
I feel for the guy and hopefully some "sensible "outcome eventuates. But I don't believe we should condemn or abandon compulsory fencing of pools.
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On a similar note its can you remember the carnage on our roads around schools before we had lollipop people escorting children across the road? Similar problem and an interventionist solution to protect children.
I'm not against the law fencing pools, but what is the penalty if you dont? Whatever the penalty is, then that is what he should be charged/fined.
Yes he broke the law by not having his pool fenced, but none of his actions had anything to do with the child wandering into his yard.
I'm not against the law fencing pools, but what is the penalty if you dont? Whatever the penalty is, then that is what he should be charged/fined.
Yes he broke the law by not having his pool fenced, but none of his actions had anything to do with the child wandering into his yard.
Mr Cameron was inside his Armidale home watching television one afternoon this year when the boy wandered through his backyard and fell in the pool.
Mr Cameron's unkempt pool, described by one neighbour as ''a bit of a cesspit'', had a fence around it that was dilapidated.
''We believe he's committed an offence by not adequately fencing the pool as he's required to do by law,'' he said. ''We'll allege the fence was there but not in a state that would stop people getting in.''
I'm not against the law fencing pools, but what is the penalty if you dont? Whatever the penalty is, then that is what he should be charged/fined.
Yes he broke the law by not having his pool fenced, but none of his actions had anything to do with the child wandering into his yard.
Extending the argument you are making, one could say if you drive around with bald tyres, lose control of your car in the wet and kill someone, should you only have to pay the penalty for having bald tyres?
Manslaughter (and murder) can be either by doing something or not doing something which causes the death of someone. Not having the pool fenced or having the fence is disrepair caused the death of the child, it would seem.
man·slaugh·ter
[man-slaw-ter] Show IPA
noun
1.
Law . the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought.
2.
the killing of a human being by another; homicide.
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