Re: The Middle East - Set for disaster - again
Hussein was certainly helped by the americans to gain power, there is evidence he was a CIA operative in the 60's before gaining the leadership of the Bath party. After he did the CIA handed him a list of hundreds, 500-600 Iraqi communists which were promptly executed.
Hussei was one of the few secterian, non religious leaders, under his leadership Baghdad was one of the few if not only Arabic countries that had a Jewish population with its own mosque.
Bush may be a secterian leader of a secterian country but the constant references to God save America, and God is on our side makes me wonder just how secterian the current american leadership is.
Ayatolla Khomeini was helped to power by a popular revolution because the USA backed Shah of Iran was so opressive the situation arose whereby many Iranians willingly backed Khomeini.
The Taliban was heavily backed by the USA, yet again and Pakistan. THe USA was very hopefull that the Taliban would unite Afghanistan and provide stability in the country so that their pipeline from Khazakstan could reach the sea.
Just about every reperessive regime since WWII has had help or encouragment from the US. The CIA has had a hand in over 50 coup dé tat, very democratic stuff indeed, there is still a lot of controversy surrounding the sacking of Whitlam, some of which is about whether the CIA or USA told John Kerr that if he sacks Whitlam, the USA will recognise this as a legal move. Post WWII greece was graced with a repressive fascist regime for about 25 yrs, fascists which were very active witht eh Nazis of WWII, these guys were supported by the USA because they were a better alternative for them - not the greeks necessarily, than the possible greek socialists. Remember Noriega? A CIA agent and president of Panama! What about Augusto Pinochet, supported by the US because Allende wanted to nationalise US owned mines in Chile, I think you will find the USA is the most destructive force on the planet, certainly we, england, most of europe and canada, NZ, benefit from that destructivness. Oh just on our doorstep, the USA and AUSTRALIA actively helped Suharto gain control of Indonesia and exterminate up to a Million 'communists'. Most of whom were primitive villagers living in commuist controlled areas. Basically we the powerfull play chess with the rest of the world, its about time they united and turned the tables on us and wiped us all out. Huauauahahahhaaa
ps WHAT ABOUT THE VIETNAM WAR!?!?!? 4 MILLION dead, mostly peasants, living in the jungle, 10s of 1000s of american and aussie soldiers suffering from agent orange exposure, man Hussain or any other bad guy doesn't even come close to such madness, yet we so readily forget and forgive such reprehensible stuff simply cos we did it, the only way any of this will stop is if individuals stop taking sides simply beacuse they were born into a culture.
Hussein was certainly helped by the americans to gain power, there is evidence he was a CIA operative in the 60's before gaining the leadership of the Bath party. After he did the CIA handed him a list of hundreds, 500-600 Iraqi communists which were promptly executed.
Hussei was one of the few secterian, non religious leaders, under his leadership Baghdad was one of the few if not only Arabic countries that had a Jewish population with its own mosque.
Bush may be a secterian leader of a secterian country but the constant references to God save America, and God is on our side makes me wonder just how secterian the current american leadership is.
Ayatolla Khomeini was helped to power by a popular revolution because the USA backed Shah of Iran was so opressive the situation arose whereby many Iranians willingly backed Khomeini.
The Taliban was heavily backed by the USA, yet again and Pakistan. THe USA was very hopefull that the Taliban would unite Afghanistan and provide stability in the country so that their pipeline from Khazakstan could reach the sea.
Just about every reperessive regime since WWII has had help or encouragment from the US. The CIA has had a hand in over 50 coup dé tat, very democratic stuff indeed, there is still a lot of controversy surrounding the sacking of Whitlam, some of which is about whether the CIA or USA told John Kerr that if he sacks Whitlam, the USA will recognise this as a legal move. Post WWII greece was graced with a repressive fascist regime for about 25 yrs, fascists which were very active witht eh Nazis of WWII, these guys were supported by the USA because they were a better alternative for them - not the greeks necessarily, than the possible greek socialists. Remember Noriega? A CIA agent and president of Panama! What about Augusto Pinochet, supported by the US because Allende wanted to nationalise US owned mines in Chile, I think you will find the USA is the most destructive force on the planet, certainly we, england, most of europe and canada, NZ, benefit from that destructivness. Oh just on our doorstep, the USA and AUSTRALIA actively helped Suharto gain control of Indonesia and exterminate up to a Million 'communists'. Most of whom were primitive villagers living in commuist controlled areas. Basically we the powerfull play chess with the rest of the world, its about time they united and turned the tables on us and wiped us all out. Huauauahahahhaaa
ps WHAT ABOUT THE VIETNAM WAR!?!?!? 4 MILLION dead, mostly peasants, living in the jungle, 10s of 1000s of american and aussie soldiers suffering from agent orange exposure, man Hussain or any other bad guy doesn't even come close to such madness, yet we so readily forget and forgive such reprehensible stuff simply cos we did it, the only way any of this will stop is if individuals stop taking sides simply beacuse they were born into a culture.