The Media

[farmerge]

...and the broadsheet is long dead, they are all stupid tabloids now.

Broadsheets are a mongrel to deal with though. Interesting to see how some mastered the art of folding the paper when on public transport when reading it.

 

[wayneL]

Broadsheets are a mongrel to deal with though. Interesting to see how some mastered the art of folding the paper when on public transport when reading it.

The broadsheets were tabloids well before they became tabloid size imo

 

[Dona Ferentes]

with the US Open on at a convenient time, that is mornings, I'm watching a bit of Nine Go, the free to air channel.

Not a usual activity to watch daytime TV, but let me just comment on the adverts. The overwhelming content is
- 'No win, no fee' ambulance chasers
- NDIS providers
- Age care providers

Not too much other stuff apart from promo teasers of other programmes.

 

[mullokintyre]

with the US Open on at a convenient time, that is mornings, I'm watching a bit of Nine Go, the free to air channel.

Not a usual activity to watch daytime TV, but let me just comment on the adverts. The overwhelming content is
- 'No win, no fee' ambulance chasers
- NDIS providers
- Age care providers

Not too much other stuff apart from promo teasers of other programmes.

Says as much about the subset of Australians that watch TV at that time of the day.
Mick

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Says as much about the subset of Australians that watch TV at that time of the day.
Mick

and the dumbness of the commercial channels in not having their sales dept out there upselling a (perhaps) changed demographic for such events

.... + oh, and '$10 a month' charity sign-ups

 

[farmerge]

and the dumbness of the commercial channels in not having their sales dept out there upselling a (perhaps) changed demographic for such events

.... + oh, and '$10 a month' charity sign-ups

Crickey night time TV is bad enough without bothering about morning viewing.

 

[SirRumpole]

Crickey night time TV is bad enough without bothering about morning viewing.

Don't bother with the ABC either. Pop music and celebrity interviews are the norm with the occasional bit of 'real' news.

 

[wayneL]

Yootoob(etc) and X have better content to be honest. We record a few free-to-air programs just for a bit of inane light entertainment, older comedy shows and such like.

...and NITV does have some good docos of interest to us. Current one is about saving wildlife in Kenya. Interesting because Mrs is from there... But lots of other stuff as well.

 

[wayneL]

Another oopsie in Aus media. The spelling and grammar mistakes are amusing enough, but this have me a guffaw

 

[sptrawler]

At last a commentator that is finally getting it, or at least prepared to voice it.
From the left leaning SMH, that is a breath of fresh air IMO.
The first thing that needs to be unwound IMO is past failures, which have led to obvious failure in delivering better outcomes, until politicians can admit they got something wrong they will never improve their performance.

Nearly one term in, just what is the point of the Albanese government?

It’s a terrifying thought that what’s happening in our politics is the best this country can do.

www.smh.com.au

What’s striking about today’s politics is the limited ambitions of recent new governments. In Bob Hawke’s first term he introduced Medicare and financial reforms including the float of the dollar. John Howard deregulated workplace laws, proposed a GST as part of a wider set of tax reforms and turbocharged private school education. Kevin Rudd created the NBN and passed the Fair Work Act. After that, new governments went small bore. Tony Abbott’s main achievement was to repeal the carbon and mining taxes. As for the current government, a big legacy achievement doesn’t exactly jump out at this stage.

Is it understandable that today’s leaders steer clear of going large policy-wise? At one level it is, because for the most part many of today’s voters won’t appreciate it; they’re suspicious of anything to do with politics. But voters also know that things aren’t working the way they should, and to dodge the tough things leaves the country with a mounting list of problems. The longer those problems like tax and housing are left to fester, the more complicated they become. The more the inequities are baked in within our society, and the more difficult they are to fix. All thanks to our incredible shrinking politics.

 

[SirRumpole]

At last a commentator that is finally getting it, or at least prepared to voice it.
From the left leaning SMH, that is a breath of fresh air IMO.
The first thing that needs to be unwound IMO is past failures, which have led to obvious failure in delivering better outcomes, until politicians can admit they got something wrong they will never improve their performance.

Nearly one term in, just what is the point of the Albanese government?

It’s a terrifying thought that what’s happening in our politics is the best this country can do.

www.smh.com.au

What’s striking about today’s politics is the limited ambitions of recent new governments. In Bob Hawke’s first term he introduced Medicare and financial reforms including the float of the dollar. John Howard deregulated workplace laws, proposed a GST as part of a wider set of tax reforms and turbocharged private school education. Kevin Rudd created the NBN and passed the Fair Work Act. After that, new governments went small bore. Tony Abbott’s main achievement was to repeal the carbon and mining taxes. As for the current government, a big legacy achievement doesn’t exactly jump out at this stage.

Is it understandable that today’s leaders steer clear of going large policy-wise? At one level it is, because for the most part many of today’s voters won’t appreciate it; they’re suspicious of anything to do with politics. But voters also know that things aren’t working the way they should, and to dodge the tough things leaves the country with a mounting list of problems. The longer those problems like tax and housing are left to fester, the more complicated they become. The more the inequities are baked in within our society, and the more difficult they are to fix. All thanks to our incredible shrinking politics.

Let's face it , Labor has been continually hobbled by the Stalinist Greens who want their own way and are not prepared to vote for anything less.

If people want a progressive government, then they should vote Labor and make sure the Greens are well down on their preference list.

 

[PZ99]

heh heh... Repairing China relations, repairing the budget with surpluses, raising pay for low paid, reduced inflation.

There's a few points, they'll probably get voted out because they're boring and not acting like a sock puppet for Trump et al

Greens ? One fart = jail term. Coalition ? Ten farts = term on front bench.

 

[sptrawler]

Let's face it , Labor has been continually hobbled by the Stalinist Greens who want their own way and are not prepared to vote for anything less.

If people want a progressive government, then they should vote Labor and make sure the Greens are well down on their preference list.

I'm yet to be convinced that Labor have anything to offer, what they have offered up until now hasn't been anything progressive,other than the voice and that was a shambles.

The Coalition haven't actually offered anything of substance and both parties appear to be trying to become the smallest target, which further backs the idea that neither party has any clue of how to drive Australia forward IMO.

This in turn just furthers the publics nervousness, of where we go from here, because we appear to be a ship without a rudder.

The media hasn't even asked, how come if we have brought in a couple of million people, we are still short of skilled workers and our productivity is still falling as is our educational outcomes at all levels?
Seems like an obvious questions to me.

 

[SirRumpole]

I'm yet to be convinced that Labor have anything to offer, what they have offered up until now hasn't been anything progressive,other than the voice and that was a shambles.

"Help to buy" , held up by the Greens and Opposition.
"Future made in Australia" held up by the Greens and Opposition.

 

[sptrawler]

"Help to buy" , held up by the Greens and Opposition.
"Future made in Australia" held up by the Greens and Opposition.

Help to buy, when the root problem is the ridiculous prices, doesn't sound too progressive. It sounds like another case of lending to people who can't afford to buy, which is what the banls where in trouble for.

Future made in Australia, isn't getting off the ground, why has Reflow gone belly up?

 

[SirRumpole]

Future made in Australia, isn't getting off the ground, why has Reflow gone belly up?

You can't blame a company failure on a policy that's not in operation.

 

[sptrawler]

You can't blame a company failure on a policy that's not in operation.

That is the whole issue, nothing has progressed, if anything most things have gone backwards.
The battery manufacturing, solar panel manufacturing.
Actually its hard to think of anything that's started or been initiated.
The last big thing was the vaccine manufacturing plant, but that was the last lot that initiated it.

 

[SirRumpole]

That is the whole issue, nothing has progressed, if anything most things have gone backwards.
The battery manufacturing, solar panel manufacturing.
Actually its hard to think of anything that's started or been initiated.
The last big thing was the vaccine manufacturing plant, but that was the last lot that initiated it.

Tell it to the Greens.

They seem anti everything to do with manufacturing stuff here and prefer they were made in China.

 

[wayneL]

If people want a progressive government, then they should vote Labor and make sure the Greens are well down on their preference list.

Define progressive.

I am of the opinion that both sides of politics should be rather more conservative... In their own ideological way.

What I mean by that is that the core constituency of both major parties have been abandoned in favour of trying to win over inner city trendies.

Neither labour or small business is being represented at all. The major parties represent big tech and big Business and gaslight the rest of us.

I have never voted Labor in my life, but I tell you right now that if an old fashioned Labo*u*r Party presented itself, I would vote for it. *This Labor Party? Not a chance in hell. Likewise the Liberals who have no idea what they want to be.

That leaves a huge political opportunity for a party, existing or a new party, to fill that void.

I currently support the Libertarians but readily accept that as things stand there are a couple of deal breakers which means they will never be a force in politics. PHON? I have tremendous respect for some of the people in the party but just not viable to form a government.

The only hope I have is that there are some very good people on the liberal backbench. As things stand in the leadership however, they are a lost cause

 

[sptrawler]

Tell it to the Greens.

They seem anti everything to do with manufacturing stuff here and prefer they were made in China.

IMO the Greens are just trying to get traction and get critical mass, rather than nearly being a party and they think the best chance to do that is to white ant Labor as their political platform is nearest in ideology.

The problem Labor has, in trying to be a small target, they become very easy to undermine by both the Greens and the Coalition.

At the moment the Greens are doing a much better job of it than the Coalition, but soon the question is going to be asked, what have you actually done in 3 years and that will be hard to answer.

Albo had a good plan staying small and blaming everyone else, but unless he can do something creative soon, his options are going to become knee jerk due to time constraints to sell them and they will upset a sector, which sector is the only question.

I think we have drifted from the media thread to the political thread, but the media are responsible for a lot of the political outcomes anyway, so there will be overlap IMO
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