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Extraordinarily beat-up about smokes.
Just like our jails detainees earn points which they can exchange for everyday items.
Smokes happen to be every day items that are available.
Yet read the crap and you would think the immigration dept is forcing smokes down their throats.
BTW the libertarian conservative legends of the Liberal Party (that's your mob)believe smoking is OK as its peoples own choice.
As Nick Minchin pointed out its good for our health system as smokers die younger and are a lesser burden over all on the costs of our health system.
Now there an insight to a humans thinking.
Some thing to look forward to once Abbott takes over.
News must think all its Xmases have come at once.Push for Stephen Smith to head off Kevin Rudd in leadership battle
You're not alone.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!
Don't give up, noco. Now that Victoria Police are investigating Craig Thomson, he could yet be the government's undoing.I just wish to hell some miricale would happen so we can have another election and stop all the crap that is going on with this inept Green/Labor socialist left wing government.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!
I'd say it would only take one more really bad Newspoll and it will be game on for Labor, especially now that they are obviously positioning Stephen Smith (poor bugger) to step in if there's a challenge from Rudd.
JULIA Gillard will "read the riot act" to her most senior ministers over an explosive leak of secret Cabinet debate on asylum seeker policy.
In a blow that further destabilises Ms Gillard's leadership, extraordinary detail revealing the bitter divide within Labor's senior ranks has emerged over a failed bid to re-open Nauru detention centre.
The unprecedented leak has infuriated the Prime Minister's closest backers and opened up fresh factional wounds within the party.
Don't give up, noco. Now that Victoria Police are investigating Craig Thomson, he could yet be the government's undoing.
Then there's the possibility of Wilkie's poker machine 'reforms' not getting through in which case he will withdraw support for the government.
And then there's the inescapable fact that Labor are at war amongst themselves, viz just the latest disagreement between Chris Bowen and Gillard on immigration policy, plus our Kev and his machiavellian moves behind the scenes.
I'd say it would only take one more really bad Newspoll and it will be game on for Labor, especially now that they are obviously positioning Stephen Smith (poor bugger) to step in if there's a challenge from Rudd.
Julia, I am not sure if Craig Thomson is charged with fraud if he will be compelled to resgn or if we with have to wait for the court case. Gillard and Labor will continue to talk about the presumptiom of innocence untill proven guilty.
With Wilke, I believe they are trying to come to a compromise.
Yes, there could be an implosion in cabinet.
Lets hope one or all events takes place.
When Rudd becomes PM, as he surely will, I doubt that he will command a majority in the house.
Would ASF members perhaps record their view about Stephen Smith taking over?If Rudd becomes PM, it is possible he would need to call an election quickly to capitalise on his high polling and before people remember why his polling was dropping when Gillard was sent in to help labor find it's way....
However, I understand there was a leadership poll in the last few days where Stephen Smith outpolled all others including Rudd. Only time will tell...
Agree, Ferret. Your suggestion is probably a bit too sensible for Labor to adopt.The next election is unwinnable for labor. They would be better off keeping Smith unsullied and giving him the job of trying to revive their standing as leader of the opposition.
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