The Gillard Government

[joea]

Its one thing that frustrates me is that the opposition doesn't have access to treasury to do its costings neither side when in government will change the rules because of the advantage of being in government.

I agree. I think both costing should be given to an independant.

The Australian has the RBA represented by " monkeys".
Well one of them is on $A 1 million plus!

We have the PM on a percentage of what company"s and banks are paying their ceo's.

The PM OF Australia is in charge of a large economy, but gets paid peanuts.

The system must change, and the credibility of the leaders must improve.

We are currently at a turning point for the future, the decisions must be right for the country and its voters, not the parties.

joea

 

[joea]

Talking about TV. THE OTHER DAY.
No free to air available in Nth. Qld. for last 3 hours.

Well I think it will not be long before there will be people waiting to exchange seats on the boats of the asylum seekers, to get out of Australia.

Cheers

 

[joea]

Wayne Swan says that the rising $A is because our economy is so strong.

I would have thought it is so strong, as it compares our economy against other countries.

Cheers

 

[Julia]

OK, aren't you and Swanny saying the same thing?

 

[sptrawler]

The wavering is starting to happen, Wilkie first cab off the rank. In todays Australian he is asking Gillard to improve her carbon tax spin. Sounds to me as though he is starting to worry about his A####se.
Talk about misreading the polls, the polls say most people agree with a carbon tax but hate Labor. Wilkie thinks it's just the way they are selling it, is he in for a shock at the election.
At least Oakeshott is standing at attention next to Captain Gillard as the ship slowly sinks into oblivion.
I think the next election whether State or Federal, will be the unravelling of this shakey alliance.

 

[Julia]

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Talk about misreading the polls, the polls say most people agree with a carbon tax but hate Labor.

That's actually not right, sp. The poll out in today's "The Australian" shows 60% of Australians are opposed to the carbon tax.

Various other results are interesting too, e.g. the greatest increase in those opposing it are families, rather than people over 50: of those opposed, more are "strongly against".

Where does the government go from here, while Mr Abbott continues his successful campaign against the tax?

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110408 Climate Change.pdf

 

[sptrawler]

Yes Julia my mistake, It looks as though even Labor voters who were strong supporters of the carbon tax (from memory it was also around 60%) are becomming opponents.
You would have to say Tony Abbott is doing a pretty good job of destabilizing the government

 

[joea]

That's actually not right, sp. The poll out in today's "The Australian" shows 60% of Australians are opposed to the carbon tax.

Various other results are interesting too, e.g. the greatest increase in those opposing it are families, rather than people over 50: of those opposed, more are "strongly against".

Where does the government go from here, while Mr Abbott continues his successful campaign against the tax?

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110408 Climate Change.pdf

Julia
I think the government will go into defensive mode. Like try and change the subject to anything that makes her look good.
W. Swan is the next performer. He says he is up to it. Lest see!
I am thinking the dollar may come back a few cents.
I hope so for Swan and Australia's sake.
If the carbon tax does not push her head under water, well the idea she has with teachers will.
Cheers

 

[Logique]

...the greatest increase in those opposing it are families, rather than people over 50...http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110408 Climate Change.pdf

Heard Jenny Macklin on the ABC this morning intoning the urgent need to increase baby bonus payments, '..we know how hard it is for mothers..'..etc.

The 'Working Families' must be won back. More wheelbarrows of cash.

 

[Julia]

Julia
I think the government will go into defensive mode. Like try and change the subject to anything that makes her look good.

Yes, it seems so. Hence the feel-good announcements out today.

If the carbon tax does not push her head under water, well the idea she has with teachers will.
Cheers

Even teachers seem critical of this. And I think it's not proposed to begin until 2014 anyway. So why is it being announced now? They will of course announce it again just prior to 2014 as though it were new money.

Heard Jenny Macklin on the ABC this morning intoning the urgent need to increase baby bonus payments, '..we know how hard it is for mothers..'..etc.

The 'Working Families' must be won back. More wheelbarrows of cash.

Yep, it's a really, really tough budget! Such breathtaking hypocrisy. Cut vital medical research and admission of essential new drugs to the PBS, but ladle it out to the voting heartland.

Expect there will be more of this to come, i.e. the cutting of essential services to pay for the bribery of the middle class.

 

[bigdog]

Gillard, please stop the boats

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226050079542

Most refugee households rely on welfare
Simon Benson From: Herald Sun May 05, 2011

FOUR out of five refugee households are relying on welfare.

And more than 60 per cent of refugees have failed to get a job after five years, according to a damning Federal Government report into the humanitarian settlement program.

A total of 83 per cent of refugee households now rely on welfare payments for income.

The greatest unemployment rate was recorded among new arrivals from Iraq and Afghanistan, with less than one in 10 able to find full time work and 93.7 of households receiving Centrelink payments.

The statistics are contained in a Department of Immigration and Citizenship report.

Those not considered "employed" after five years, were unemployed, retired, studying full time, engaged in caring duties, doing voluntary work or trying to start a business for which they had yet to receive income.

 

[Calliope]

The greatest unemployment rate was recorded among new arrivals from Iraq and Afghanistan, with less than one in 10 able to find full time work and 93.7 of households receiving Centrelink payments.

The average Muslim family has six children. They can live quite comfortably on welfare and never have to work again.

To spend a few thousand to get to this paradise is a very good investment for themr. As migrants they are a very bad investment for Australia. Compared to Chinese immigrants (for example) they have a poor work ethic.

 

[Logique]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-off-benefits/comments-fn8gf1nz-1226050404322
Free childcare for teen mums to be trialled under moves to get young mothers off benefits
By: Joe Kelly - May 05, 2011
TEENAGE mums will be given free childcare under a $47 million pilot program to force young mothers off benefits and into the workforce.
As she crafts a budget message around education and training, Julia Gillard said young mums in selected areas would have their childcare subsidised by taxpayers to improve their career opportunities.
“At every opportunity we have put at the forefront of our decision making, education and support for Australians to make sure they get good opportunities in life,” Ms Gillard said today.

 

[noco]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-off-benefits/comments-fn8gf1nz-1226050404322
Free childcare for teen mums to be trialled under moves to get young mothers off benefits
By: Joe Kelly - May 05, 2011
TEENAGE mums will be given free childcare under a $47 million pilot program to force young mothers off benefits and into the workforce.
As she crafts a budget message around education and training, Julia Gillard said young mums in selected areas would have their childcare subsidised by taxpayers to improve their career opportunities.
“At every opportunity we have put at the forefront of our decision making, education and support for Australians to make sure they get good opportunities in life,” Ms Gillard said today.

Yes Logique, it is just another Gillard make me feel good speech which means absolutely nothing.
Another distraction from the carbon dioxide tax which 60% say "NO". Gillard must have also enjoyed the temporary Bin Ladin distraction.
OMG when are we going to get rid of this useless government?

 

[sptrawler]

Labors first 4 years in office. Revenue up 15%, Government spending up 39%, nothing to show for it.
Now for a tough budget to get more money to waste. What a classic

 

[Wysiwyg]

Most refugee households rely on welfare
Simon Benson From: Herald Sun May 05, 2011

FOUR out of five refugee households are relying on welfare.

And more than 60 per cent of refugees have failed to get a job after five years, according to a damning Federal Government report into the humanitarian settlement program.

Compared to where they came from, their new lifestyle would be 100% better and all for no put in. Why would they want to work for money? Those refugees that actually give a rat's rump would probably encounter workplace rejection.

 

[sptrawler]

Compared to where they came from, their new lifestyle would be 100% better and all for no put in. Why would they want to work for money? Those refugees that actually give a rat's rump would probably encounter workplace rejection.

Not to worry the government has got that problem sorted. Apparently in the budget pensioners can go back to work and earn more money before they start loosing their pension.
How charitable, the only pensioners that can get a job would be ones that had jobs through their working lives.
What a brilliant government, some would call it double dipping, i.e tax a person through their working life and when they retire. let them keep some of the pension they have funded if they go back to work as long as they don't earn too much.
Lets get real $14,000/pa for a single pensioner isn't heaps, if they have worked all their lives since school they shouldn't loose any. That is unless the combined income exceeds a reasonable amount e.g $50,000
Priceless absolutely priceless.

Lets be honest if they don't go back to work you have to import someone, or so the story goes. lol

 

[Julia]

Compared to where they came from, their new lifestyle would be 100% better and all for no put in. Why would they want to work for money?

Especially if they have six or more children in which case their Centrelink benefit would be way more than many taxpaying Australians are taking home.

 

[sails]

Especially if they have six or more children in which case their Centrelink benefit would be way more than many taxpaying Australians are taking home.

And most likely government housing to accomodate them.

It bugs me that should an Aussie defraud Centrelink for a better economic life, they would face criminal charges if caught and probably instantly lose further benefits. And yet this motly minority government puts out the welcome mat to whoever comes from overseas in a rickety boat without ID may receive freely of our welfare system-even if it is just for a better life.

Isn't that discrimination against our own citizens?

 

[drsmith]

It's unfortunate that this so-called government are, well, still in government.

They are simply not worthy of further discussion in my view.