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Redistribution of wealth under the guise of Carbon Tax...here, now.
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Redistribution of wealth under the guise of Carbon Tax...here, now.
The welfare reforms will target symptoms of system issues instead of fixing the system welfare recipients operate in.
Talk to enough people involved and you'll find most of the private job agencies do their best to maintain their contracts and in subtle ways rort the system. One good rort is renaming and repackaging inhouse training where they get extra funding.
Getting paid to place people in work is a good motivation but the way the system works/audited appears many agencies are wrongly getting credit for clients getting work.
The DEEWR phone lines get a good workout with bad client managers doing the wrong thing. I know from experience along the NW of Tasmania there are many issues with client managers. The handful that are any good soon leave the industry so the dregs that know how to work the system maintain their jobs but don't provide good outcomes.
Talk to enough people involved and you'll find most of the private job agencies do their best to maintain their contracts and in subtle ways rort the system. One good rort is renaming and repackaging inhouse training where they get extra funding.
Getting paid to place people in work is a good motivation but the way the system works/audited appears many agencies are wrongly getting credit for clients getting work.
The DEEWR phone lines get a good workout with bad client managers doing the wrong thing. I know from experience along the NW of Tasmania there are many issues with client managers. The handful that are any good soon leave the industry so the dregs that know how to work the system maintain their jobs but don't provide good outcomes.
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Even the Unions are turning on the guvnmint, This just gets better and better, what an absolute joke.
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CONFIDENTIAL Treasury figures showing a $13 billion fall in economic growth this financial year are expected to force drastic cuts to the government's May budget.
Treasurer Wayne Swan will announce forecast growth of just 2.25 per cent, much lower than the 3.25 per cent forecast in November and below the 2.5 per cent canvassed in budget meetings just weeks ago, Fairfax newspapers say.
With the Australian economy worth $1.3 trillion a year, a one per cent fall in growth amounts to a $13 billion hit, Fairfax says.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...ay/story-e6frfku0-1226040013359#ixzz0lEMZqOIG
IMF says it's time to bank cash
GLOBAL economies, including Australia, are being given the same advice parents often dispense, bank spare money.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is urging all advanced economies, including Australia, to bank excess revenue if their economic growth exceeds expectations.
In its latest Fiscal Monitor, the IMF says risks to government balance sheets remain elevated, noting progress made in some regions has been offset by delays in fiscal consolidation in others.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/imf...sh/story-fn7mjon9-1226038186164#ixzz0lEMP32gY
1) THE cost of projects under the Federal Government's $16.2 billion school infrastructure program more than doubles from initial estimates by the time builders start work.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ble-quoted-price/story-e6freuzr-1225842172819
2) After spending $2.45 billion on ceiling insulations, a third of which appear to be faulty or dangerous according to a review of almost 14,000 homes earlier this year, taxpayers will be forced to pay another $424 million, if not more, to sort out the dangerous mess.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...t-costly-lessons/story-e6frg71x-1225939909818
3) Once Senator Wong spends the full $3.1 billion the government has allocated to buying irrigators' water entitlements, she will have wiped out 13,669 jobs in irrigated agriculture. That's before we even start talking about the flow-on effects to the rest of the community.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2010/02/26/160561_opinion-news.html
4) The Rudd Government has agreed alter its $42 billion stimulus package, reducing cash payments to eligible taxpayers by $50 dollars to $900 after pressure from crossbench senators.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/r...ulus-package-20090212-85e0.html#ixzz0lEQRH9k7
*GOSH* ....... if they had not chucked away all of this money in the first place then where would we be now?
Treasurer Wayne Swan will announce forecast growth of just 2.25 per cent, much lower than the 3.25 per cent forecast in November and below the 2.5 per cent canvassed in budget meetings just weeks ago, Fairfax newspapers say.
With the Australian economy worth $1.3 trillion a year, a one per cent fall in growth amounts to a $13 billion hit, Fairfax says.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...ay/story-e6frfku0-1226040013359#ixzz0lEMZqOIG
IMF says it's time to bank cash
GLOBAL economies, including Australia, are being given the same advice parents often dispense, bank spare money.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is urging all advanced economies, including Australia, to bank excess revenue if their economic growth exceeds expectations.
In its latest Fiscal Monitor, the IMF says risks to government balance sheets remain elevated, noting progress made in some regions has been offset by delays in fiscal consolidation in others.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/imf...sh/story-fn7mjon9-1226038186164#ixzz0lEMP32gY
1) THE cost of projects under the Federal Government's $16.2 billion school infrastructure program more than doubles from initial estimates by the time builders start work.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ble-quoted-price/story-e6freuzr-1225842172819
2) After spending $2.45 billion on ceiling insulations, a third of which appear to be faulty or dangerous according to a review of almost 14,000 homes earlier this year, taxpayers will be forced to pay another $424 million, if not more, to sort out the dangerous mess.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...t-costly-lessons/story-e6frg71x-1225939909818
3) Once Senator Wong spends the full $3.1 billion the government has allocated to buying irrigators' water entitlements, she will have wiped out 13,669 jobs in irrigated agriculture. That's before we even start talking about the flow-on effects to the rest of the community.
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2010/02/26/160561_opinion-news.html
4) The Rudd Government has agreed alter its $42 billion stimulus package, reducing cash payments to eligible taxpayers by $50 dollars to $900 after pressure from crossbench senators.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/r...ulus-package-20090212-85e0.html#ixzz0lEQRH9k7
*GOSH* ....... if they had not chucked away all of this money in the first place then where would we be now?
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Yes, when you have business and owners in agreement such as is happening, particularly in the steel industry, the government must be getting very nervous indeed.Even the Unions are turning on the guvnmint, This just gets better and better, what an absolute joke.
And the Opposition is not losing any opportunity to reinforce the disquiet.
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1975 is a long time ago, but I'm getting a new insight into why a federal opposition thought it necessary to block supply.
Surely close to or exceeding, the Whitlam government's profligacy? Should we begin watching for mysterious subcontinental financier types at the airports?
Surely close to or exceeding, the Whitlam government's profligacy? Should we begin watching for mysterious subcontinental financier types at the airports?
After an excellant summary by "trainspotter", why would anyone believe that the NBN could be built for 36 Bullion. To add a factor to the NBN cost surely you would have to start at "2 by" and think that it could end at "3 by". ( to do what Gillard said she would)
Understanding that the loss by Labor in NSW was a result of policy by the same faceless men who supported Gillard, the australian people deserve to be concerned.
Surely a move is near to stop Gillard destroying the Australian economy. One would think the mining industry is the only thing holding our head above water.
As Windsor will not be going around again, will he be the one to "see the light".
He can go out a retired hero by stopping this foolish "spendathon".
Somebody has to "stop the rot". Or is the Budget the "achilles heel"?
Understanding that the loss by Labor in NSW was a result of policy by the same faceless men who supported Gillard, the australian people deserve to be concerned.
Surely a move is near to stop Gillard destroying the Australian economy. One would think the mining industry is the only thing holding our head above water.
As Windsor will not be going around again, will he be the one to "see the light".
He can go out a retired hero by stopping this foolish "spendathon".
Somebody has to "stop the rot". Or is the Budget the "achilles heel"?
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I think Windsor will want to prolong his day in the sun and extract as much in the way of "pork barrelling" in an effort to redeem himself to his electorate.
I guess any one of the indies could be the hero to rid Australia of this struggling minority government whose leader seems to think she has a mandate for her ideals. She doesn't seem to understand that leading a minority government means she didn't win.
However, I suspect that all the indies know they have very little prospect of continuing their political careers (unless they become labor pollies) that it is more likely they will allow this untenable situation to drag out for as long as possible.
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https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...xY2oCA&usg=AFQjCNHCNFLAc-nDv41_Vts2zYq9hghtmQ
"Labor's stocks are at a 15-year low and the party would lose in a landslide if an election were held today, according to the latest Nielsen poll.
The latest Nielsen poll, published in Fairfax newspapers, shows the coalition has opened a 56 to 44-point lead against Labor, and the ALP's primary vote is at its lowest in 15 years as the community reacts negatively to the proposed tax on carbon emissions.
The two-party gap of 12 points - with Labor down two points and the coalition up two since last month - is the biggest coalition lead since 2005.
If an election were held now, there would be a landslide six per cent swing on these figures, Fairfax newspapers say.
For the first time, Ms Gillard trails Mr Rudd as Labor leader - by 38 to 55 percentage points.
Labor's primary vote has fallen two points to 31 per cent, while the coalition's primary vote is up two points to 47 per cent. The Greens remain steady on 12 per cent.
But Liberal leader Tony Abbott has his own worries, with deposed leader Malcolm Turnbull drawing further ahead as preferred party boss 41-28 points.
Ms Gillard has never been more on the nose with voters. Her approval rating is at its worst (45 per cent, down two points) and her disapproval rating at its highest (50 per cent, up three points) since she became prime minister, giving her a 'net negative' of five points during this survey.
Mr Abbott's approval is down one point to 42 per cent, his lowest since June last year, while 51 per cent disapprove of him (down one).
But Ms Gillard still leads Mr Abbott as preferred prime minister - by eight points (50-42 points). However, the gap has closed by a point to its narrowest since August.
The survey of 1400 people was taken between Thursday and Saturday last week."
"Labor's stocks are at a 15-year low and the party would lose in a landslide if an election were held today, according to the latest Nielsen poll.
The latest Nielsen poll, published in Fairfax newspapers, shows the coalition has opened a 56 to 44-point lead against Labor, and the ALP's primary vote is at its lowest in 15 years as the community reacts negatively to the proposed tax on carbon emissions.
The two-party gap of 12 points - with Labor down two points and the coalition up two since last month - is the biggest coalition lead since 2005.
If an election were held now, there would be a landslide six per cent swing on these figures, Fairfax newspapers say.
For the first time, Ms Gillard trails Mr Rudd as Labor leader - by 38 to 55 percentage points.
Labor's primary vote has fallen two points to 31 per cent, while the coalition's primary vote is up two points to 47 per cent. The Greens remain steady on 12 per cent.
But Liberal leader Tony Abbott has his own worries, with deposed leader Malcolm Turnbull drawing further ahead as preferred party boss 41-28 points.
Ms Gillard has never been more on the nose with voters. Her approval rating is at its worst (45 per cent, down two points) and her disapproval rating at its highest (50 per cent, up three points) since she became prime minister, giving her a 'net negative' of five points during this survey.
Mr Abbott's approval is down one point to 42 per cent, his lowest since June last year, while 51 per cent disapprove of him (down one).
But Ms Gillard still leads Mr Abbott as preferred prime minister - by eight points (50-42 points). However, the gap has closed by a point to its narrowest since August.
The survey of 1400 people was taken between Thursday and Saturday last week."
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Rudd will not move on Gillard. She will self-destruct. Rudd's strategy will be the one that Keating adopted with Hewson;
"The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm out of this load of rubbish over a number of months. There will be no easy execution for you."
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*GOSH* 31 % primary vote eh? People prefer Rudd to Gillard eh?
The poll said support for Labor was the lowest it had been in 15 years.
Ming Pong Kluddy will be popping an extra bottle of Bolly on ice darlinks.
The poll said support for Labor was the lowest it had been in 15 years.
Ming Pong Kluddy will be popping an extra bottle of Bolly on ice darlinks.
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There has been no one like Keating. How colourless the political landscape is without him.
Further interest is added today with Barnaby Joyce saying he is considering running for a lower house seat in New England, against Tony Windsor.
Given Mr Windsor has probably done his chips in this electorate by so going against the electorate's wishes, and will choose to retire rather than be ignominiously beaten, Barnaby would probably be a shoo-in here.
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double dissolution, lets hope
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I sometimes wonder if the Indies have been offered labor seats for the next election - could be all part of the plan to keep them on side...
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After an excellant summary by "trainspotter", why would anyone believe that the NBN could be built for 36 Bullion. To add a factor to the NBN cost surely you would have to start at "2 by" and think that it could end at "3 by". ( to do what Gillard said she would)
Understanding that the loss by Labor in NSW was a result of policy by the same faceless men who supported Gillard, the australian people deserve to be concerned.
Surely a move is near to stop Gillard destroying the Australian economy. One would think the mining industry is the only thing holding our head above water.
As Windsor will not be going around again, will he be the one to "see the light".
He can go out a retired hero by stopping this foolish "spendathon".
Somebody has to "stop the rot". Or is the Budget the "achilles heel"?
Actually recently the guvnmint has stopped doing anything, reversal on the medical research, reversal on the cut to child minding, reversal on tendering process for N.B.N.
I definately think they have $!!!!!!!!!!!!!!t, you know what themselves. Now comes the backfilling of the holes they have dug, it is a shame they think the electorate is still that stupid.
I really think they have blown it and now anything they do will be recieved with ridicule.
They first lost credibility when Rudd came out and said, we will cover bank deposits to the tune of $25,000/ person. Then hours later after a call from who knows where(we can guess), with chest measurement 3"bigger, we will cover accounts to $1,000,000.
Then came the stupid spendathon, the goon parade, now the same goons are telling you that they have to tax the crap out of you because there is no money.
But hello, didn't that happen last time labor was in, then liberal/nats had to tax the crap out of us to pay back that labor stuff up.
Lucky there is some "normal working class famillies" that can suffer to pay for it. LOL
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And the Dental care scheme has gone too, which the Greens wanted, they won't be happy.
What a joke the NBN administration. No company will tender anywhere near the price budgeted for. Where's the big black hole in the budget now Mr Swan!
Politics is now moving into " a fear campaign".
Swan statement " the budget will be tough". To soften us up.
Shortly he is going to media to tell us how tough.
His message to the public will be " take a spoonful of cement " and toughen up!
Then we will finally have a released budget.
My memory may not be perfect, but I thought the government in the past just released a budget and that was that. over and out.
Or is this political spin and rhetoric by Swan while Gillard is overseas.?
Or is the spotlight being taken away from "the carbon tax".?
Oh well time will tell. Easy to work out the coalition's campaign for next election.
"Labor, lies , lies and more lies". "Labor ,taxes, taxes and more taxes".
Swan statement " the budget will be tough". To soften us up.
Shortly he is going to media to tell us how tough.
His message to the public will be " take a spoonful of cement " and toughen up!
Then we will finally have a released budget.
My memory may not be perfect, but I thought the government in the past just released a budget and that was that. over and out.
Or is this political spin and rhetoric by Swan while Gillard is overseas.?
Or is the spotlight being taken away from "the carbon tax".?
Oh well time will tell. Easy to work out the coalition's campaign for next election.
"Labor, lies , lies and more lies". "Labor ,taxes, taxes and more taxes".
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Decent encapsulation of how things stand, and from a former Labor staffer.
The people didn't leave Labor, it has left them, retreated to inner-city coffee shops, where the world seems simple to young urban professionals in protected jobs, on the drip-feed of parental leave and child care rebates.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...olumn_abbott_drinks_labors_beer/#commentsmore
"..Then union leaders such as Howes and pragmatic MPs such as former ACTU president Martin Ferguson will, with luck, finally drag the party out of the grasp of the green-hearts and salvation-seeking lawyers and apparatchiks and place it again in the callused hands of those who delight in building, digging, making and solving stuff.
Then, please, humbler Australians can once more live their own dreams, and not those of another Labor moraliser, with the wisdom of a textbook and more love of power than love of this land and those who call it home."
The people didn't leave Labor, it has left them, retreated to inner-city coffee shops, where the world seems simple to young urban professionals in protected jobs, on the drip-feed of parental leave and child care rebates.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...olumn_abbott_drinks_labors_beer/#commentsmore
"..Then union leaders such as Howes and pragmatic MPs such as former ACTU president Martin Ferguson will, with luck, finally drag the party out of the grasp of the green-hearts and salvation-seeking lawyers and apparatchiks and place it again in the callused hands of those who delight in building, digging, making and solving stuff.
Then, please, humbler Australians can once more live their own dreams, and not those of another Labor moraliser, with the wisdom of a textbook and more love of power than love of this land and those who call it home."
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WELL it had to come, Swan has opened his mouth and what a classic, "The last coalition government made more money from their minerals boom than we will".
Well DUHHHH they actually used it to pay off the debt you left them and guess what you will be leaving them another debt to pay off. All you had to do was manage the only economy in surplus and what did you do, blow it in 1 term of office.
These goons just reinforce the the call for an I.Q test for politicians.
It actually doesn't matter whether you make more or less money, you mismanage it anyway.
Well DUHHHH they actually used it to pay off the debt you left them and guess what you will be leaving them another debt to pay off. All you had to do was manage the only economy in surplus and what did you do, blow it in 1 term of office.
These goons just reinforce the the call for an I.Q test for politicians.
It actually doesn't matter whether you make more or less money, you mismanage it anyway.
