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Julia said:
That was inappropriate and ill judged.
So is any comment about Ms Gillard's personal preferences.
So I'm being entirely consistent in believing neither behaviour has any valid place in political commentary.

If Gillard et al were doing a good job of running the country, no one would care about their personal relationships. I'm less than impressed by the hairdresser, but it's none of my business. I only care about the mess she is making of Australia.
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+1 Julia.

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Julia said:
That was inappropriate and ill judged.
So is any comment about Ms Gillard's personal preferences.
So I'm being entirely consistent in believing neither behaviour has any valid place in political commentary.

If Gillard et al were doing a good job of running the country, no one would care about their personal relationships. I'm less than impressed by the hairdresser, but it's none of my business. I only care about the mess she is making of Australia.
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I agree, but everyone in the public eye has the camera on them, it doesn't hurt if they do their job, if they don't the media are vicious.
 
Julia said:
That was inappropriate and ill judged.
So is any comment about Ms Gillard's personal preferences.
So I'm being entirely consistent in believing neither behaviour has any valid place in political commentary.

If Gillard et al were doing a good job of running the country, no one would care about their personal relationships. I'm less than impressed by the hairdresser, but it's none of my business. I only care about the mess she is making of Australia.
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Agree completely, with you Julia.
Let's get back on to Gillard's rank policy and off her rank choice of friends.
I'm sure the former will have a lot more impact on our lives.:2twocents
 
Would have been colourful narrative if they'd done an expose of Hawkey's exploits.

All the same, if this information is out there, voters are entitled to know it. This is a PM we are talking about, and on very good coin at taxpayers expense.

At the end of Bigdog's the Pickering Post quote, Pickering claims that Gillard misrepresented her involvement in the Socialist Forum, effectively a communist organization. This is information that voters are entitled to know.

Craig Thompson wasn't cut much slack in the media on his alleged indiscretions, why should Gillard escape press reporting.
 
All the same, if this information is out there, voters are entitled to know it. This is a PM we are talking about, and on very good coin at taxpayers expense.

At the end of Bigdog's the Pickering Post quote, Pickering claims that Gillard misrepresented her involvement in the Socialist Forum, effectively a communist organization. This is information that voters are entitled to know.

Craig Thompson wasn't cut much slack in the media on his alleged indiscretions, why should Gillard escape press reporting.
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While I agree with your sentiment. A lot of the "information" I see in Pickerings' posts are opinions and suppositions.
press reporting= Pickering post ............ a bit of a stretch there:cautious:
 
waza1960 said:
While I agree with your sentiment. A lot of the "information" I see in Pickerings' posts are opinions and suppositions.
press reporting= Pickering post ............ a bit of a stretch there:cautious:
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I don't see anyone taking him to court..........
 
Labor well and truly on the nose again in Queensland as the foot soldiers abandon ship,

The Australian on Thursday revealed that rank-and-file members were abandoning Queensland in droves, fuelling fears of an electoral wipeout of the Gillard government in the key battleground and damaging plans for a heavily manned grassroots campaign in the state.

More than 30 union officials have already been seconded to help run Labor's campaign across Australia, with many being sent to Queensland as one-third of the state ALP membership has abandoned the party in the past year.

In a leaked internal ALP memo, Queensland state secretary Anthony Chisholm this week pleaded to the "true believers" to lean on 2000 members who had yet to renew their memberships.

Insiders said members who had not paid up accounted for more than one-third of the party base and were abandoning the ALP over the leadership tussle between Julia Gillard and Mr Rudd, and in the face of polling indicating a federal Labor defeat.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...in-blow-to-labor/story-e6frgczx-1226609241516
 
Paul Kelly as always makes some interesting points on Labor's problems,

Labor's tragedy is that a party created in the 1890s to represent the industrial wing has achieved its historical purpose with rising community prosperity, affluence once unimagined, and the shrinking of trade coverage in the private sector to about 14 per cent of employees.

Given this reality, Labor must change. It cannot continue to see itself as a party defined by its institutional ties with the trade unions and a 50 per cent union representation rule. Such a narrow definition dooms Labor's future. Gillard's recent embrace of this identity was an extraordinary blunder that mirrors the structural conflict implicit in Gillard-Rudd tensions. It is now improbable that Rudd does not want radical reform of Labor's ties with the union movement.

The sharpest point in Ferguson's resignation speech was his lament that Gillard is not governing for all Australians. Can there be a more lethal assessment? When the union leaders from the Hawke-Keating generation shout this criticism from the rooftops about the Gillard government - witness Ferguson, Crean and Kelty - then crisis is not an exaggerated notion.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...o-govern-for-all/story-e6frg74x-1226609179026
 
sptrawler said:
Gillard and the unions won this battle, let's see what happens after the election.
There is every chance that Gillard and the goons will be forced out of Labor.IMO
If the moderates in Labor don't take control of the party the party will be finished.:2twocents
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I'd like to see Gillard, Swan and Conroy in particular lose their seats.
Chris Bowen and Martin Ferguson, maybe Simon Crean, re-elected and head up the new Labor Party.
Would also like to see K. Rudd despatched for all time so that we never, ever again have to watch him prancing around the country seeking attention and adoration, or listen to his pompous tones.
 
Julia said:
I'd like to see Gillard, Swan and Conroy in particular lose their seats.
Chris Bowen and Martin Ferguson, maybe Simon Crean, re-elected and head up the new Labor Party.
Would also like to see K. Rudd despatched for all time so that we never, ever again have to watch him prancing around the country seeking attention and adoration, or listen to his pompous tones.
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I'd be happy with that. Although Martin Ferguson did seem to be one the more competent ministers. Conroy is the ALP's first pick senator for Victoria, I think, so no chance he'll be out of a job.

It's a shame that there is some decent talent in the ALP but it's been swamped by these middle management, focus group types.
 
dutchie said:
Simon Crean is the new Krudd (as far as stirring Gillard)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...nal-rift-deepens/story-fn59nsif-1226610030006

Finally a Labor member with some balls! (obviously Krudd doesn't have any)
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He is the perfect candidate for labor.

Got balls.
Seems honest.
and not in the long term plan as he is a past failure.

Therefore, rope him in, cut some losses and toss him aside (or let him ride as opposition leader for the first term of opposition to save the chosen ones)

I really like Simon Crean

MW
 
sptrawler said:
Gillard and the unions won this battle, let's see what happens after the election.
There is every chance that Gillard and the goons will be forced out of Labor.IMO
If the moderates in Labor don't take control of the party the party will be finished.:2twocents
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The internal war continues for Labor.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/16481082/mua-push-to-take-over-wa-labor/

I think Gillard and the unions will wreck Labor, before Labor has time to wreck Australia.

Well, I certainly hope so.:xyxthumbs
 
Julia said:
I'd like to see Gillard, Swan and Conroy in particular lose their seats.
Chris Bowen and Martin Ferguson, maybe Simon Crean, re-elected and head up the new Labor Party....
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Where do I sign! I've read that Chris Bowen is in some danger of losing his seat, based on the anticipated swing in Sept. This would be catastrophic for Labor's post-election future.

Here are the contestants at the Sept election: Coalition vs the Unions.
 
The Australian's April Fools Day article,

Preliminary figures from the OECD's annual survey of wage taxation show that the tax cuts introduced by the Rudd government between 2008 and 2010, as well as those included in the carbon tax compensation package, have lowered average tax rates by as much as 3.6 percentage points, with the biggest tax breaks going to the lowest paid.
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Kevin Rudd's income tax cuts were Peter Costello's to which Labor said me-too while the carbon tax compensation package was part of a tax shift.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...han-under-howard/story-fn59nsif-1226609980026
 

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