The Gillard Government

[Slipperz]

Gee control over a 31 year old daughter,you must be an Abbott clone.

At least his daughters have some sense of decorum.

Yes at times national interests overide personal interests.

Getting your t1ts out for zoo is not in anyone's interests in this situation imho.

I hope the independants that cosied up to the reds in canberra go to the next Zoo magazine foam party with a few hookers for some photo ops.

Just for consistency.

 

[nunthewiser]

I reckon she,s great

 

[Tink]

Is it a Conspiracy or just a coincidence?

Rudd is appointed as Foreign Minister on Saturday 11/09/2010 and is on the Air Force jet today headed for the United Nations to meet with the UN Secretary General Mr.Moon. He is not yet officially swarn in by the Governor General.

How could he arrange such a trip in 48 hours unless of course it was organised some time back?

Was his demise as Prime Minister a conspiracy by Rudd, Gillard and the faceless men for a leg into his long term ambition of becoming the UN Secretary General? May be the opening is already there.

Arch Bevis predicted Rudd would resign within 6 months, so maybe he knows something we don't.

Can't help feeling suspicious of the plotting that goes on in the Labor Party. Maybe we will see it all unfold in due course.

Where are you GG, you often seem to have your finger on the pulse? Please do some sleuth work for ASF.

I saw this as all organised to win the election as they knew their polls were down.

I didnt see it as 'the knifing him in the back' etc etc as many have said, I saw it as all talked through and worked out for the Labor Party.

I am not saying whether that is right or wrong, but we can do that as we vote in the party, not the leader, not like the US

 

[moXJO]

Pure class here.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ps-for-mag-shoot/story-e6freuzr-1225919900439

Bogans are now firmly in control.

 

[noco]

Is it a Conspiracy or just a coincidence?

Rudd is appointed as Foreign Minister on Saturday 11/09/2010 and is on the Air Force jet today headed for the United Nations to meet with the UN Secretary General Mr.Moon. He is not yet officially swarn in by the Governor General.

How could he arrange such a trip in 48 hours unless of course it was organised some time back?

Was his demise as Prime Minister a conspiracy by Rudd, Gillard and the faceless men for a leg into his long term ambition of becoming the UN Secretary General? May be the opening is already there.

Arch Bevis predicted Rudd would resign within 6 months, so maybe he knows something we don't.

Can't help feeling suspicious of the plotting that goes on in the Labor Party. Maybe we will see it all unfold in due course.

Where are you GG, you often seem to have your finger on the pulse? Please do some sleuth work for ASF.

Correction:
On Monday morning 13/09/2010, Sky News showed a photo of Kevin Rudd waving as he boarded the Air Force jet and stated Rudd was on his way to the UN. This was obviously a misconception on behalf of Sky News and many would have thought the same as I, that what Sky News had shown was fact.

He now leaves on Friday on a 747 and not the Air Force jet as first indicated. Rudd will be sworn in by the GG before he leaves.

However, it does not detract from the fact his eagerness to enter the UN as soon as possible.

A man on a personal mission to fullfill his ambitions at tax payers expense.

 

[todster]

Correction:
On Monday morning 13/09/2010, Sky News showed a photo of Kevin Rudd waving as he boarded the Air Force jet and stated Rudd was on his way to the UN. This was obviously a misconception on behalf of Sky News and many would have thought the same as I, that what Sky News had shown was fact.

He now leaves on Friday on a 747 and not the Air Force jet as first indicated. Rudd will be sworn in by the GG before he leaves.

However, it does not detract from the fact his eagerness to enter the UN as soon as possible.

A man on a personal mission to fullfill his ambitions at tax payers expense.

Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a good story

 

[Calliope]

I listened to Madonna King on AM this morning in her weekly interview with Craig Emerson and George Brandis. I got the impression that the Coalition has the ability to make life very difficult for Gillard's government. Emerson sounded like a fool, and refused to answer (or didn't know) whether Labor has any important legislation slated for the new parliament.

I think Labor will attempt do nothing until their Green partners control the senate, and will be on the defensive.

 

[noco]

I listened to Madonna King on AM this morning in her weekly interview with Craig Emerson and George Brandis. I got the impression that the Coalition has the ability to make life very difficult for Gillard's government. Emerson sounded like a fool, and refused to answer (or didn't know) whether Labor has any important legislation slated for the new parliament.

I think Labor will attempt do nothing until their Green partners control the senate, and will be on the defensive.

If they last that long Calliope. Can't wait for the games to begin on the 28th Sep.
It looks like the NBN will be the coalition's main target and Malcom Turnbull has not wasted any time.

 

[Calliope]

If they last that long Calliope. Can't wait for the games to begin on the 28th Sep.
It looks like the NBN will be the coalition's main target and Malcom Turnbull has not wasted any time.

Yes, noco, when you consider Labor's complete inability to manage any infrastructure project, Turnbull should have a ball with this one. It will be made all the easier while that boofhead Senator Conroy is Communications minister.

 

[todster]

Yes, noco, when you consider Labor's complete inability to manage any infrastructure project, Turnbull should have a ball with this one. It will be made all the easier while that boofhead Senator Conroy is Communications minister.

I live 5 minutes drive from the city centre of one of the fastest growing areas in West Oz.
After numerous visits from Telstra i gave up on ADSL,unreliable and painfully slow at best.
Now opted for wireless bigpond that works only at one end of the house.
Can one of the dynamic duo give me a little info on what the Coalition have in policy on broadband.


Not Tonys coke cans and fishing line network!

 

[IFocus]

Interesting Abbott gave Malcolm Communications remember Malcolm will challenge for the leadership should the numbers stack up sooner or later they will.

A very large % of voters want NBN and I suspect that includes Malcolm so a political move to get Malcolm into a negative campaign re NBN Abbott no doubt hoping some negativity sticks to Malcolm a rival down the track some where.

This is some thing Malcolm will understand as he will attack around the numbers and facts as he see's it and not just keep repeating some negative BS slogan he will try to maintain a high degree of policy integrity .

This will set him apart from the rest of the shadow front bench and Abbott will have to work hard to see that Malcolm fails.

Abbott remains as the biggest threat to Australia's future as he promises to disrupt and tear down an Australian government.

Gerard Henderson (has Liberal bias) makes a few points worth noting much to my surprise.

Myth 1. Kevin Rudd's replacement by Julia Gillard in June was a coup enacted by faceless men. In fact, coups do not happen in Western-style democracies. They either initiate or reflect an autocratic form of government. In Australia, incumbent prime ministers - on both sides of politics - have been replaced in the past. A similar fate was suffered by Billy Hughes in 1923, Robert Menzies in 1941, John Gorton in 1971 and Bob Hawke in 1991.

What's more, none of those who moved against Rudd were faceless. This is a term that comes from a time when virtually unknown delegates to the ALP's national conference determined Labor's policy. Most of those who decided that Rudd had to go were elected politicians - Bill Shorten, Gary Gray, Don Farrell and David Feeney. The best known of the trade union officials who moved against Rudd was the high-profile Paul Howes.

Myth 2. The Gillard government is illegitimate. Not so. Labor has a working majority of two in the House of Representatives, even if only 72 out of 76 MPs are ALP members. The United Australia Party government led by Robert Menzies after the 1940 election was legitimate, even though it had to rely on the support of two conservative independents.

He also sticks the boot into Labor

Myth 4. Labor's defeat was due to the fact that, in the words of Rod Cameron on Lateline last week, it ran the "worst federal campaign" he has ever seen. This self-serving mythology overlooks the fact Abbott ran an effective campaign from the time he became Liberal leader in December.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/by/gerard-henderson

 

[Julia]

IFocus, I understand that your view is always coloured by your anti-Coalition bias, but I think it's a bit unreasonable to suggest that Tony Abbott has put Malcolm Turnbull in a p/f simply to see him fail.

On the contrary, if the start he made today on Radio National's "Breakfast" is anything to go by, Mr Turnbull was very impressive, and Senator Conroy might at last need to engage in some genuine cost/benefit analysis to offer taxpayers before committing $42 billion (or likely much more than that in the end) to the NBN.

As Mr Turnbull pointed out, it would be just inconceivable that any public company would propose any scheme costing anything like that much without first presenting to its shareholders a rationale for why they may expect the results suggested for the money outlaid.

Senator Conroy has thus far got away quite outrageously with committing taxpayer funds to a project which of course people like the idea of when they struggle for a connection etc, but hopefully Mr Turnbull will be holding him to account for the valid spending of every taxpayer dollar.

Separately, yes, no doubt Mr Turnbull still has his eye on the main prize eventually, but he will know he has no chance of getting there unless he scores some genuine runs on the board first. His opposition to Conroy is a perfect opportunity for him to do this.

 

[IFocus]

IFocus, I understand that your view is always coloured by your anti-Coalition bias, but I think it's a bit unreasonable to suggest that Tony Abbott has put Malcolm Turnbull in a p/f simply to see him fail.

More anti Abbott currently but also have little respect for the remaining Howardites I believe they are holding back Australian politics generally as the Coalalition needs renewal not the same old same old

Annabel Crabb alludes to it here

It is entirely understandable that the Coalition - having survived through the events of the past three years and indeed coming very close to prospering - chooses to pause at this point for a moment of peace.

Understandable, but probably unwise.

A very similar thing happened to Kim Beazley's Labor opposition after the 1998 election, in which it very nearly regained government from a rattled, first-term John Howard.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/15/3012246.htm?site=thedrum

On the contrary, if the start he made today on Radio National's "Breakfast" is anything to go by, Mr Turnbull was very impressive, and Senator Conroy might at last need to engage in some genuine cost/benefit analysis to offer taxpayers before committing $42 billion (or likely much more than that in the end) to the NBN.

As Mr Turnbull pointed out, it would be just inconceivable that any public company would propose any scheme costing anything like that much without first presenting to its shareholders a rationale for why they may expect the results suggested for the money outlaid.

Senator Conroy has thus far got away quite outrageously with committing taxpayer funds to a project which of course people like the idea of when they struggle for a connection etc, but hopefully Mr Turnbull will be holding him to account for the valid spending of every taxpayer dollar.

Separately, yes, no doubt Mr Turnbull still has his eye on the main prize eventually, but he will know he has no chance of getting there unless he scores some genuine runs on the board first. His opposition to Conroy is a perfect opportunity for him to do this.

Conroy is a dud and Malcolm will run rings around him.

Only saving for Conroy is the NBN CEO Mike Quigley who is very very good who will deliver the NBN on time and below budget Labor will have nothing to do with it some thing Abbott wont want Australians to know.


Alan Kohler sums up Abbotts political manoeuvrings better than me


"The NBN may crush Turnbull"

Tony Abbott has quite possibly given Malcolm Turnbull the worst job in the parliament.

His task is to constantly complain that something he likes and agrees with, and that most voters will like and agree with, is too expensive. He will no doubt attack this job with flair and gusto and get a fair share of media attention, at least to begin with, but the Shadow Minister for Communications and Broadband is travelling on a train to nowhere.

And this

Yesterday he was repeating the ridiculous line that the government has undertaken $43 billion of expenditure without a detailed business plan or cost benefit study, which has been the opposition's line throughout the campaign. But what do they call the $25 million, 546-page, implementation study by McKinsey and Co and KPMG, released publicly on May 6?

And they must know that Quigley's team has completed a detailed business plan that is slightly different from the government study and which will also soon be publicly released.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au...urnbull-pd20100915-9ASWA?OpenDocument&src=kgb

 

[noco]

IFocus, I understand that your view is always coloured by your anti-Coalition bias, but I think it's a bit unreasonable to suggest that Tony Abbott has put Malcolm Turnbull in a p/f simply to see him fail.

On the contrary, if the start he made today on Radio National's "Breakfast" is anything to go by, Mr Turnbull was very impressive, and Senator Conroy might at last need to engage in some genuine cost/benefit analysis to offer taxpayers before committing $42 billion (or likely much more than that in the end) to the NBN.

As Mr Turnbull pointed out, it would be just inconceivable that any public company would propose any scheme costing anything like that much without first presenting to its shareholders a rationale for why they may expect the results suggested for the money outlaid.

Senator Conroy has thus far got away quite outrageously with committing taxpayer funds to a project which of course people like the idea of when they struggle for a connection etc, but hopefully Mr Turnbull will be holding him to account for the valid spending of every taxpayer dollar.

Separately, yes, no doubt Mr Turnbull still has his eye on the main prize eventually, but he will know he has no chance of getting there unless he scores some genuine runs on the board first. His opposition to Conroy is a perfect opportunity for him to do this.

Yes Julia, I agree. I think Turnbull will force Conroy to reveal a lot more otherwise Conroy will lose any credibilty he ever had,which isn't much I might add.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I understand from reports that Tasmania is up and running. We don't appear to have been given much information of the success or failure.
How many connections have been made?
How much does each connection cost?
Is the Government getting any return from the capital outlay?
There seems to be a bit of secrecy about Tasmania some how. If the Government has had good response, I'm sure they would have been gloating about by now.

 

[Julia]

Thanks for the response, IFocus. I guess we'll see in time. You may well be right, but at this stage I find it hard to believe Mr Abbott would be deliberately downplaying his chances of success.

That said, I'd have preferred to see Joe Hockey put to the Shadow Communications role and Malcolm Turnbull as Shadow Treasurer. Mr Hockey's performance in the campaign was woeful.

Re Annabel Crabb, charming and attractive though she is, her own political bias is always very apparent so I take what she says with the proverbial grain of salt.

If you'd read "The Australian"'s account of Mr Turnbull's forthcoming role, you'd find a quite different interpretation.

 

[Logique]

I see no conspiracies here. Turnbull has the skill set and articulacy to take this on. He is the logical choice. Doing well helps rehabilitate him with the Liberal right.

Conroy's style is propagandizing and sanctimonious nanny-state autocracy. He is overdue for the application of some political accountability.

It's going to be fun watching Malcolm burst the bubble of Senator 'Internet Filter' Conroy.

 

[wayneL]

Labor's style is propagandizing and sanctimonious nanny-state autocracy.

A simple (and accurate) extrapolation.

 

[explod]

The last 10 posts on this thread are virtually off topic. Talk about a heap of lost souls drowning in their sorrows.

Get over it. Turnbull et al. are not in goverment. Gillard is the topic, and the Government is showing all the early signs of doing well.

 

[springhill]

The last 10 posts on this thread are virtually off topic. Talk about a heap of lost souls drowning in their sorrows.

Get over it. Turnbull et al. are not in goverment. Gillard is the topic, and the Government is showing all the early signs of doing well.

Showing signs of doing well? They haven't done anything yet! They've only just been sworn in.
Oh except i heard Kruddy mouthing off about how we may fail to get a seat on the Security Council and how he is going to strongarm us in there. BS we won't get a seat, we follow the US everywhere they go, that's enough leverage to get us in. Once again Rudd full of p!ss and wind, and trying to make himself look like the saviour. Wow he is scary when he talks tough though!

 

[todster]

The last 10 posts on this thread are virtually off topic. Talk about a heap of lost souls drowning in their sorrows.

Get over it. Turnbull et al. are not in goverment. Gillard is the topic, and the Government is showing all the early signs of doing well.

Maybe you could issue a few move on notices,if that dont work go the pepper spray