The Gillard Government

[Joe Blow]

Similar to your sista sails who can label people as twats etc as she pleases, thanks to the new lower standards that are now deemed acceptable by Joe.

Actually, the standards are not lower, but I do take several factors into account when making a moderation decision. These include, but are not limited to, the person's previous record of behaviour and the element of provocation, both of which were taken into account in the decision to which you refer. My decision in that case was that a warning was appropriate, and one was issued.

However, I am not going to take this thread off topic. If you wish to discuss this further, you may PM me.

 

[Julia]

That was what my comment was referring to, not racist not discriminatory just a recognition that we are fast moving to being a truly Asian nation along with the influx of the Asian people into Australia.

There are plenty of Australians who could learn from the study and work ethics of many Asian cultures.

 

[Logique]

This article in The Australian wouldn't have helped investors frame of mind today.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...lections-us-jobs/story-e6frg916-1226348694296
...While concerns about Greece are more immediate, given that the country is close to the brink, France is probably a bigger concern in the longer term, said Mr Oliver [Shane Oliver, head of investment strategy at AMP Capital.]

“Investors are worried because the last time the French elected a socialist government, the share market fell 30 per cent,” said Mr Oliver. That was in 1981 with the election of Francois Mitterrand to power.

Meanwhile, the US jobs data stoked fresh fears that the US is heading for a double-dip recession, Mr Oliver said. “It’s like deja vu,” he said, referring to last year when stocks started the year with enthusiasm but gains then fell away...

 

[MrBurns]

There are plenty of Australians who could learn from the study and work ethics of many Asian cultures.

Yes many years ago Aussies hated the Italians because they took all the jobs, but the fact was they were prepared to work harder.

 

[sails]

Actually, the standards are not lower, but I do take several factors into account when making a moderation decision. These include, but are not limited to, the person's previous record of behaviour and the element of provocation, both of which were taken into account in the decision to which you refer. My decision in that case was that a warning was appropriate, and one was issued.

However, I am not going to take this thread off topic. If you wish to discuss this further, you may PM me.

Just one post, Joe. I am offering an apology to Eager for calling him a "twat". I looked the word up today and didn't realise just how offensive it is and would never have used that word. .. . Yes, Eager's insulting post got me very annoyed, but he didn't deserve that. However, I will keep him on ignore as I find the insults he weaves into his posts generally tend to raise the blood pressure a bit too much and subsequently draw out swiping responses from me!

Back on the depressing topic of the Gillard Government!

 

[MrBurns]

Back on the depressing topic of the Gillard Government!

Is she still there ?, damn

 

[sails]

Is she still there ?, damn

Yeah, unfortunately. And she was at the Red Cross today and couldn't help herself in ridiculing Abbott once again.

He must get so sick of her constant school yard tactics. I think he has earned the right to be PM putting up with this constant nonsense.

From the SMH: PM and Abbott at cross purposes

 

[Eager]

Just one post, Joe. I am offering an apology to Eager for calling him a "twat". I looked the word up today and didn't realise just how offensive it is and would never have used that word. .. .

Thank you, your apology is accepted. Really.

 

[sails]

The HSU report has been tabled in parliament tonight. 1127 pages of it.

Federal MP Craig Thomson spent union funds on his election campaign, escorts, meals and taxis when he was a Health Services Union (HSU) official and continued to do so for several months after entering parliament, a report claims.

Fair Work Australia's (FWA's) 1100-page report of its investigation into the union, which was led by Mr Thomson between 2002 and his election in November 2007, was tabled in federal parliament on Monday evening.

Read more from NineMSN:Thomson spent union money on campaign: FWA


Full report: http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/92658600


Will be an interesting day in the house of reps tomorrow...

 

[drsmith]

The HSU report has been tabled in parliament tonight. 1127 pages of it.

So, that was the distant thud that I heard.

 

[sails]

Thank you, your apology is accepted. Really.

Thanks Eager. I saw you had posted and took you off ignore to see if you had responded. I'll leave it off for now and see how we go...

 

[sails]

So, that was the distant thud that I heard.

Yeah some thud! Just reading the index doesn't look good for Thomson.

 

[Julia]

He must get so sick of her constant school yard tactics. I think he has earned the right to be PM putting up with this constant nonsense.

Actually, imo if he continues with his present tactic of saying little and ignoring her personal jibes it's likely he will acquire more brownie points. Her behaviour says way more about her than it does about him.
He seems to be gradually learning the dignity of shutting up.

 

[moXJO]

He seems to be gradually learning the dignity of shutting up.

Lucky for him.... Every time he opens his mouth dumb usually falls out.

 

[Glen48]

Have you lost trust in modern Australian politics?

Yes 68%
What's trust got to do with it? 18%
No 14%
6124 votes counted
from ABC poll

 

[sails]

Lucky for him.... Every time he opens his mouth dumb usually falls out.

Below is Abbott's speech at the Red Cross yesterday - no digs at Gillard. It seems dumb frequently comes out of her mouth in the form of personal attacks.

It’s great to be here at what is indeed a gathering that unites all the various disparate forces in this parliament – The Prime Minister, the Leader of the Greens, the Leader of the National Party. There isn’t a member of parliament who wouldn’t applaud what we do today, because wherever there is trouble, there is the Red Cross to lend a helping hand. I was in Emerald early last year – a town that had been devastated by floods and who did I see organising the relief centre, but Jane Prentice MP – not there as a member of parliament, but there as a member of the Red Cross and it was terrific to see her there being useful, which is what the Red Cross is – in trouble in trouble-spots. I was a tourist, she was useful.

The Red Cross has 85 regional offices around our country, it has tens of thousands of volunteers in its ranks. It provides 750,000 breakfasts to kids that might not otherwise get fed, every year. It assists tens of thousands of Australians every year. The Red Cross volunteers are amongst the best of us and by forming this parliamentary friendship group, we do of course salute them. It is the strength of our people, which is the strength of our country. It’s not the things we have to do, it’s the things we choose to do that make us fully human. It is not the things we do for money, it’s the things we do for love that make us a great people and Australians are a great people. The Red Cross and their work is a manifestation of the spirit of our people so I am delighted to be here. I am delighted to join my senior parliamentary colleagues in saluting the Red Cross on this special day.

And this was Gillards little quirp.

Can I acknowledge that today is truly and bipartisan event. I’m here with the Leader of the Opposition. I’m red. He’s always cross. So we’re here together.

(Groans of complaint mixed with laughter from the audience.)

Had to do it. Sorry.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/one_has_class/

 

[sails]

An excerpt from Niki Savva on Bolt's Blog - Why doesn’t Labor choose a leader who’ll change its policy?:

Less talk or more ticker, please. Either lock in grimly behind the Prime Minister and prepare for the looming horror crash or press eject.

In late 2009 many Liberals were in a similar state of despair. They had already disposed of one leader, Brendan Nelson, and thought they had no choice except to stick with Malcolm Turnbull until the election, which they fully expected to lose and lose badly.

Turnbull’s determination to vote for Kevin Rudd’s emissions trading scheme provided the trigger for a revolt by three junior frontbench senators—Mitch Fifield, Brett Mason and Mathias Cormann—who individually rang Turnbull in the space of an hour on November 25 to tell him they could not support the policy and were resigning.

This is how one of them characterises it now: “If we didn’t change the leader, we couldn’t change the policy, and if we didn’t change the policy we were buggered.”

The next day Tony Abbott, Nick Minchin, Tony Smith, Sophie Mirabella and Eric Abetz followed suit…

The senators acted because they had a deadline, the Senate vote. What they did not have was an alternative candidate. What’s more, they did not care.

And I agree with Bolt when he adds, "Niki is right about the what: the carbon tax. Which means the decision for Labor is not which leader voters will like most, but which will scrap the tax. "

Full article from the Australian (Subscription required): Nothing to lose but the wrong leader

 

[sptrawler]

Sounds like Oakeshott might falter, he has to decide pension or pride. I think pension will win. LOL
The hand is on the ripcord ready to bale out and I bet Wilkie isn't far behind. Jumping second doesn't score as well with the electorate.
It is great to see the penny has dropped with labor, queensland result would have told them.
Also Bob Brown walking away into the sunset with his partner, smile on his face, mission accomplished. He really played Julia and the problem for her is she faces a secret ballot it's called an election.
I am betting this will be the biggest swing against a government ever recorded in Australia.

If the independents don't jump ship they are just giving the coalition more numbers.LOL

 

[dutchie]

If the independents don't jump ship they are just giving the coalition more numbers.LOL

Even if the rats jumped ship today it still would not save them at the next election.

They are gooooooooooone!

 

[joea]

If the independents don't jump ship they are just giving the coalition more numbers.LOL

Could we hope for a balance of integrity in this fiasco.?

Thompson responds to allegations.
Parliament discuss the situation rationally.
Thompson is suspended from parliament, because of vote from independents until the legal system gets into motion.

No sorry I was just being hopeful.
I could just see that "little grub" Wilkie going for another deal to buy his vote.
Any which way, I believe Oakeshott will be the key!
He has decided he would like to stay in politics.

joea