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Calliope said:
The SMH has decided to demonise Gillard. Rudd probably is behind this.
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I find it a bit hard to believe that Mr Rudd's campaigning in Qld for Anna Bligh is anything other than a delicious opportunity to put himself out there in the public eye more and more.

I also find it hard to believe that most people do want Rudd back as PM. Surely memories can't be that short? Gillard is awful, but Rudd was way worse imo.

On the current Australia Day fiasco aren't the Libs are in danger of over-politicising what happened? Certainly there is some murky water around what exactly Mr Hodges said to Ms Sattler. The latter seems to have changed her story a few times.
But criticism of Ms Gillard in the whole affair seems to me a bit unfair. I'd have thought it quite reasonable that it took a day to establish who had said what to whom
Hopefully there will be a Federal Police investigation but I don't think the Libs should be quite so 'holier than thou' over this.
 
Funnily enough I think the Australia day incident, is a huge problem.
For an opposition party, in government or not, to purposefully supply erroneous information to incite a mob to riot, is outrageous.
What if one of the rioters was armed, where do you draw the line?
I saw John Howard being interviewed recently and the question was posed," now you are no longer the Prime Minister do you have AFP security", he dodged the question.
Whether we like it or not there are people who will take a percieved grudge to a whole new level, JFK, John Lennon, some bikie in Adelaide.
For a senior member of a government team to actively incite a radical group and supply them with the information as to the targets whereabouts, it is just outrageous.
What if Abbott had been assasinated, I know he wasn't, but it wasn't because of safegaurds put in place before the trigger was set.
Maybe I am over reacting, who knows, but it could have ended very badly. Just because it didn't doesn't make it o.k. IMO
It is just another dumb brain snap, looked like a great idea at the time. We have seen a few of these recently.
 
sptrawler said:
Funnily enough I think the Australia day incident, is a huge problem.
For an opposition party, in government or not, to purposefully supply erroneous information to incite a mob to riot, is outrageous.
What if one of the rioters was armed, where do you draw the line?
I saw John Howard being interviewed recently and the question was posed," now you are no longer the Prime Minister do you have AFP security", he dodged the question.
Whether we like it or not there are people who will take a percieved grudge to a whole new level, JFK, John Lennon, some bikie in Adelaide.
For a senior member of a government team to actively incite a radical group and supply them with the information as to the targets whereabouts, it is just outrageous.
What if Abbott had been assasinated, I know he wasn't, but it wasn't because of safegaurds put in place before the trigger was set.
Maybe I am over reacting, who knows, but it could have ended very badly. Just because it didn't doesn't make it o.k. IMO
It is just another dumb brain snap, looked like a great idea at the time. We have seen a few of these recently.
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Have you been drinking?
 
sptrawler said:
For a senior member of a government team to actively incite a radical group and supply them with the information as to the targets whereabouts, it is just outrageous.
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Much has been made of Mr Abbott's location being disclosed. Presumably this fuss is in the context of the 'incitement'. I have heard several times today that he will be speaking at the Press Club. No one seems to have become distressed about that.

What if Abbott had been assasinated, I know he wasn't, but it wasn't because of safegaurds put in place before the trigger was set.
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The PM could equally have been assassinated if you're going to be dramatic about it.

I do think the whole thing is getting a bit overblown.
A staffer did something very stupid. The idjits at the tent embassy reacted predictably. The PM lost a shoe. The staffer was sacked. Hopefully the tent people will apologise. Should then be end of story, shouldn't it?
 
Julia said:
A staffer did something very stupid. The idjits at the tent embassy reacted predictably. The PM lost a shoe. The staffer was sacked. Hopefully the tent people will apologise. Should then be end of story, shouldn't it?
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What is relevant about the Australia Day Riot is that the "blame Tony Abbott" spin is now in full flight. It illustrates the point that any question asked of him by the Canberra Press Gallery is asked with a forked tongue. No matter how innocuous the answer is, it will be manipulated to give them the answer they tried to trap him into giving.

Their task is made easier by his tendency to put his foot in his mouth. In this case he avoided that, but that didn't stop the spin doctors.

Could there have been any innocent reason why Tony Hodges should try to bring the protesters and Abbott together so that they could question him on his statement? If it had been made by a Labor politician, nothing more would have come of it.
 
Its all happening.
Tony had a media address today.
Well Gillard has babbled, then this was followed by Shorten and this was followed by Cream insinuating that Rudd had no chance as an alternate PM.

Gee you would reckon someone tossed a hornest nest(full of hornets) into the Labor office section.
It the best laugh I have had for some time.

"Labor are s**t scared of ABBOTT and that's obvious.
joea
 
joea said:
Well Gillard has babbled, then this was followed by Shorten and this was followed by Cream insinuating that Rudd had no chance as an alternate PM.
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They know Gillard won't recover from the latest stumble and are now elbowing each other to be the first to run over the top of her political corpse when she finally falls.
 

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