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I wonder if the covid driven migration to the bush can be sustained?
From the article:
The overall number of people working in manufacturing has barely changed over the past two years, but in food manufacturing it has climbed 6 per cent to more than 222,000. Many of those jobs are in regional areas.
Mars, which has production sites in towns such as Wodonga and Ballarat in regional Victoria, has conducted survey work to find out if people – particularly STEM-trained young Australians – are prepared to move to the regions.

Its survey of 1000 people studying or working in manufacturing, trade or STEM (science, technology, engineering and maths) careers found up to 79 per cent of Millennials were open to the idea of moving bush.
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The main reasons for moving were the cost of living (cited by 49 per cent), housing prices (48 per cent) and a change in lifestyle pace (45 per cent).
People living in NSW (56 per cent) and Victoria (53 per cent) were more open to a tree change than people in other parts of the country.
COVID-19 was mentioned by 69 per cent of Victorian survey members and by 63 per cent of those from NSW as a reason to consider moving.

The federal government’s peak infrastructure agency, Infrastructure Australia, last week released a major report in which it noted the largest exodus of people to regional areas from major cities since the 19th century required a rethink of how infrastructure is put in place.
That exodus has been partly driven by high house prices.

The median house value in Sydney has climbed by $307,000 over the past year, or $843 a day. Melbourne’s median house value has jumped by $173,000 over the same period, while in Hobart it has increased by $169,000.
In some areas, such as regional NSW and regional Tasmania, prices have increased more in percentage terms than capitals. But they are still far cheaper.
And in all regions, the proportion of monthly income used to pay the mortgage is substantially lower than in a capital city.
How can we still pretend we have hardly any inflation when people with 0 productivity, can make that much in what is the "de facto" capital of Australia, so a huge number of owners got that extra wealthy.
I was feeling lucky that with all RE in the sunshine coast, i made a killing wealth wise but this is nothing..and not right..not a moral issue, but an economic one.an economy self destroyed and a pretence of booming wealth.
 

Netherlands going to start banning property investment
 

Netherlands going to start banning property investment
You will own nothing but be happy
Stalag life Reset style
 

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Genuine question...is IO Interest Only and if so what's China got to do with that?
IO for iron ore..
Last week saw a drastic fall of OO price and so billions of export dollars for australia went in smoke on a matter of hours..days..and this followed up a similar exercise with coal a few months earlier.
How can RE survive in a bankrupt economy is the question.
Hope it helps
 
IO for iron ore..
Last week saw a drastic fall of OO price and so billions of export dollars for australia went in smoke on a matter of hours..days..and this followed up a similar exercise with coal a few months earlier.
How can RE survive in a bankrupt economy is the question.
Hope it helps

I was actually confused too I thought he was asking is Iron Ore Interest only.... yeah as they say all we do here is serve coffee, provide international education and sell rocks (iron ore)

scratch the last 2 off the list and we are just selling fancy latte to each other
 
now one new local glitch will be the Evergrande contagion where SOME will be nervous buying off the plan ( or under construction ) possibly even in Australia and POSSIBLY make some lenders more nervous as well

CHINA HOUSING MARKET BUBBLE BURSTING? ANOTHER WORLD DEBT CRISIS/?​




now i disagree this is ONLY a Chinese thing , i bet companies in other nations have the same gaps in regulations

but if more lenders get nervous ( globally ) .....
 
The point of interest is: do we actually have Evergrande or linked chinese real estate projects here in Australia.
3y ago, i chatted with an investor in Shenzhen and his construction group was being 1 sizeable residential development project in Melbourne areaare we going to see A Current affair special on: i still do not have a home, i paid 300k, and interest weekly, there is just this slab and the contractors are not paid either
 
The point of interest is: do we actually have Evergrande or linked chinese real estate projects here in Australia.
3y ago, i chatted with an investor in Shenzhen and his construction group was being 1 sizeable residential development project in Melbourne areaare we going to see A Current affair special on: i still do not have a home, i paid 300k, and interest weekly, there is just this slab and the contractors are not paid either
directly related to Evergrande , unknown ( to me )
because of the Evergrande situation .. a sudden loss of confidence in pay early occupy later system , rather likely

because it has happened many times before , whether it is banks tightening up credit availability , or hiking rates , contractors unwilling to work/buy materials hoping to be paid later , buyers being suddenly cautious and nervous ( or just squeezed by higher costs ) and don't forget these 'at whim' virus restrictions and possible worker shortage and waiting times on materials

have seen this all before via several colleagues , who fled the building industry while they still had assets and cash ,( before the next downturn )
 
When will the current property market take a breather? I thought things were bad back in 2019, but the market has been red hot for the entirety of this year and I'm trying to figure out what could cause a pause and a pullback.

I am starting to feel for those on lower incomes who will probably never own their own home, even something as simple as a unit or townhouse. It's just getting too far out of reach for many.

With a federal election on the horizon, it seems that nothing is likely to change in the short term.
 
When will the current property market take a breather? I thought things were bad back in 2019, but the market has been red hot for the entirety of this year and I'm trying to figure out what could cause a pause and a pullback.
A rise in interest rates should see buyers enthusiasm tempered, but no way the reserve will do that in the current environment
 
Still plenty of cash being stashed.
From the article:
The June quarter national accounts showed that Australian households were flush with savings, accumulating a whopping $162.5 billion of household income in the year to June 2021 – double the previous peak of $80.5 billion saved by households in 2015:


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Commonwealth Bank estimates that household savings will swell to $230 billion by the end of the year, which should prop-up consumer spending and bolster the economy once it emerges from lockdowns:
 
Still plenty of cash being stashed.
From the article:
The June quarter national accounts showed that Australian households were flush with savings, accumulating a whopping $162.5 billion of household income in the year to June 2021 – double the previous peak of $80.5 billion saved by households in 2015:


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Commonwealth Bank estimates that household savings will swell to $230 billion by the end of the year, which should prop-up consumer spending and bolster the economy once it emerges from lockdowns:

Be interesting to see if there is a geographic relationship. Melbourne and Sydney alot of people would be burning through savings, but then there is all those public servants working form home ?
 
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