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Investors will build to sell not to rent.
Good luck with that.
 
Investors will build to sell not to rent.
Good luck with that.

Politicians don't have the backbones to do what is right so no need to worry about NG being abolished any time soon.

If they wanted to tip-toe around the problem then they could start with only have NG apply to new dwellings.

As we know NG on existing properties serves no purpose at all other than to drive up prices and make the economy poorer.
 
Investors will build to sell not to rent.
Good luck with that.

Excuse my ignorance, but don't the vast majority of "investors" by established properties in the first place.

NG should be on new builds only, this would at least funnel some of the investors money into adding supply.

Cheers
 
Excuse my ignorance, but don't the vast majority of "investors" by established properties in the first place.

NG should be on new builds only, this would at least funnel some of the investors money into adding supply.

Cheers

I agree but would widen it to encompass refurbishments and additions to older home investment properties.
Limited to those works.

I wouldn't say most investors go for established.
Many meet the demand in new housing and apartment development
 
I really don't understand what investors are thinking buying when interest rates are this low? Surely the time to buy property is when interest rates are relatively high?
 
I really don't understand what investors are thinking buying when interest rates are this low? Surely the time to buy property is when interest rates are relatively high?

Sydney and Melbourne are both sellers markets, the savy investors are not buying.....
 
I really don't understand what investors are thinking buying when interest rates are this low? Surely the time to buy property is when interest rates are relatively high?

Well interest rates alone aren't a good indication - I'd use them more as the 'risk free' rate for my cash, and would expect net rental yields to be greater than these; i.e. if IR are 7%, but net rental yield is 11%, then it may be worthwhile.

It's more the idea of picking up an asset that generates less cash than a term deposit and hoping for it to go up in value that doesn't really make much sense to me.
 
I really don't understand what investors are thinking buying when interest rates are this low? Surely the time to buy property is when interest rates are relatively high?

For me my holding costs are lowest ever.
More buyers off plan locking in rates.
 

My understanding is that net rental yields are pretty terrible in melbourne and sydney if you were buying today.
 
For me my holding costs are lowest ever.
More buyers off plan locking in rates.

Tech/A for someone in your business, it should be a dream come true, or close to it

  • The lowest interest rates in a very very long time
  • Easy access to huge piles of debt
  • A consumer/customer who is unaware or just ignorant to what is happening at a macro level with Australia and world wide.

Apart from the normal difficulties of running a successful business, your greatest task I would guess, is when to exit the game in this cycle, not get holding to many non performing assets. I believe that is still some time away unless the rainbow swan appears and like all good rainbows one cannot predict when and where they will be until after the fact.

Oh, while I cannot reference exact stats at the moment, I believe the vast amount of passive property investors by established properties as this is where the capital growth is. Active investors are developers under my definition. If NG was only on new builds, it would see far more passive investors turn into active investors and provide much need stimulus and housing for greater society.

To be a passive investors takes no where near the due diligence and smarts as a passive and we have become a lazy nation.

Cheers
 
I believe the vast amount of passive property investors by established properties as this is where the capital growth is.

I have held many Established properties over the last 20 yrs.
I now only hold 2---One I have on the market and the other is
my business premises which collects rent from my company into my super.

Holding Established property here in SA is not a sound investment and hasn't been for over 5 yrs.
Your just chewing up capital with very low return on rent.
I'm in it for capital gain and the only place I can get decent capital gain on my money (Or I should say a lot of the banks) is building---developing. Here a 15% return on capital at work is a minimum and 30% is possible in 12 mths.

The return on my own money is massive even at 15%

I buy the land and borrow the development building costs.
On a 1.5-2 mill development there is around 20% so $300K
Land on a 3 apartment build on average $350K

So after holding costs of say $45k and Sub division and legal's of
$30K there is a drink.
 

Agree to what junior said.
 
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I don't think you are the majority, you fit the active investor model. It is what the masses are doing that is of interest, they move markets.

Smart, calculated, well researched and hardworking individuals will benefit in all markets.

The majority are not the above.
 
Never wanted to be in a majority in ANY field.

So thanks!
 
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Thank you.

You've just expanded my ming regarding property.
 
Hi Tech/A,

As I mentioned earlier, I didn't believe most investors borrow money for new builds (construction) but rather for established dwellings.

It was a lot higher than I thought. 90% of housing financial commitments are for existing.

NG gearing on existing is a rort.
 

It really is.

All of the arguments FOR negative gearing are only relevant to new properties, not for existing. Tax deductible expenses relating to the property purchase should be quarantined and carried forward, only to be offset against future rental income or capital gain relating to that specific property.

Rules to remain as they are for newly constructed dwellings.
 

Yes I know.
They in general terms will be lucky to profit in the long run.
unless you get a good run on capital gain it really is non productive for producing an income even if you buy it freehold. Being negatively geared is pretty easy to do---even when you think you'll be positively geared.
You need any tax benefit you can get.

You end up as is the case now with many holding property in hope of a capital gain but finding its costly to hold on.
eventually many will get sick of the drain and sell out.
When interest rates increase---watch the exodus!
Bubbles Popping Everywhere.
 
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