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NAB is under geared, similar loan book to the rest of the banks in OZ. Hardly adverse risk here.


http://www.thebull.com.au/articles/...nks-skirt-unofficial-home-lending-limits.html

EXCEPT BOQ who has the highest exposure to recalcitrant borrowers. In saying that they have tidied up their act in the last few years and moved out of residential and moved into commercial !!


http://www.smh.com.au/business/bad-debts-hit-bank-of-queensland-profit-20111013-1lly5.html

is the property market.
 
Labour has introduced a members' bill that would allow only New Zealand citizens and residents to buy any existing house, flat or apartment

 
Low interest rates are gaining traction in the housing industry.


http://www.news.com.au/business/bre...on-expands-again/story-e6frfkur-1226776976122

Last thing we need is a change in the lending criteria ..... do they never learn?
 
Might be? His laissez-faire capitalism certainly worked for the USA

I mean that's it really isn't it? Create a debt fueled bubble based on lax lending standards (ninja etc.) then offset the risk by packaging it all up and selling it to overseas investors (so it takes the rest of the world to the brink) and domestic pension funds (so it forever enslaves the retirees)...

What a brilliant idea.

So Australia has a housing bubble? Maybe a little frothy in places...
 

Alan Greenspan April 2005 speech. Love how he praised subprime loans and the innovative way banks were lending money to "immigrants" (read suckers)


He also yanked the interest rate lever on ARM's from 1% to 5.25% in less than 2 years. No regulatory body to control ADI's lending practices *HEY PRESTO* .... hello Mr Housing Bubble.



Greenspan was also against the regulation of derivatives, preferred a free market ideology as well as self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholder's equity (BWAHAHAHHAHHWAAHHAHA) Matt Taibbi described the Greenspan put and its bad consequences saying: "every time the banks blew up a speculative bubble, they could go back to the Fed and borrow money at zero or one or two percent, and then start the game all over", thereby making it "almost impossible" for the banks to lose money. He also called Greenspan a "classic con man" who, through political savvy, "flattered and bull****ted his way up the Matterhorn of American power and ... jacked himself off to the attention of Wall Street for 20 consecutive years."

Could this happen in Australia? Nope. Will some people get ejected from their homes due to mortgage stress? You betcha. Mebbe they shouldn't have got the new car to go with the new house !!!

 
lol....great post.....You're like the TH of the Property Thread.....After the GFC everyone is so gun shy that anything remotely looking like a bubble and they're all calling doomsday...

We will have another bubble, chances are the the next one might be bigger, but only a few will be able to pick the timing...in the meantime carry on carrying on.
 
Bottom cartoon depicts Howard, Costello and me old mate Macfarlane. Seems they had the same issues we are about to face yet again. Interest rate gun at the ready to tranquilize the asset increase
 

I think a lot of it is terminology. The word bubble is very emotive - overvalued is probably less likely to cause a stir but amounts to the same thing. A lot of assets are overvalued at present.

But, there really are more 'bubbles' or overvalued assets recently, since there is so much liquidity sloshing around from exporting nations and other reserve accumulators, quantitative easing in the US and Japan - but there is no real productive investment to meet the demand of all this saving - we have too much excess capacity already and not much demand for stuff. In the western world we can't take on more debt, and the surplus countries have policies that restrict consumption. The end result is that it just squeezes up asset prices because it has nowhere else to go and needs to find a home.

At ZIRP in a world with basically no real yield, everyone is betting on price increases for gains rather than an income stream. There are only a few true speculative-mania bubbles at the moment, like bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that everything is at fair value. The expected return on US stocks given it's current valuation is about 2% or less for the next 10 years. Maybe that's not a bubble but it's definitely not undervalued. Aussie stocks are closer to fair value, but the mining cap-ex unwind has barely even started so who knows.
 
I have been following this "housing bubble" for quite some time (since 2007) and am very disappointed in how it has persisted. There was an opportunity for the bubble to burst after Rudd's victory, although that was certainly scuttled with his boost to first-home owner's grants and the RBA's decision to cut (and maintain) interest rates at record lows.

I think it's time to admit that I've backed the losing side and that expensive housing is here to stay.
 

It's not all doom and gloom, banks are lifting their home loan interest rates.
The squeeze will come.lol
http://www.propertyobserver.com.au/mortgages/should-you-fix-your-mortgage-now-experts-have-their-say

The banks would be given the wink before the plebs are told.
 

Too late my friend ... too late. Posted this awhile back.


Rates haven't moved. Banks are profiteering.
 
Hi TS,

I've seen you post a few times in this thread but am having a bit of trouble trying to figure out what your stance on the housing issue is.

Too late my friend ... too late. Posted this awhile back.



Rates haven't moved. Banks are profiteering.

Are you trying to say that the banks have no need to increase rates? and that there won't ever be a squeeze?
 

My stance is that property is just another money making venture with pitfalls and nuances that are quite easy to quantify once you have learned the rules of property investing. The market has a readable cycle and it depends as to when and where you buy will dictate as to how much money you will make or lose. Preferably the first part and not the second.

Banks are currently profiteering as wholesale funding have not increased. The banks margins on the other hand are increasing exponentially more than their costings. Yes there will be a credit squeeze. We have just had one whereby the banks have already tightened their lending criteria. There are now calls from certain sectors of the industry for the banks to loosen their lending criteria. I am dead against this as then there will be a liquidity problem within the housing sector.

Mainly the 95% LVR young people who have recently purchased in a non performing area. It is not their fault, it is because they do not know any different. Usually serviceability is income based and usually compounded by dual incomes. Only takes one of the borrowers to either lose their job, get pregnant, injure themselves blah blah blah and *HEY PRESTO*, mortgage stress. Or now they have their lovely new house they want all the trappings = 60 inch LCD TV with surround sound and the leather recliners in the lounge room all bought on the never never plan. Or suddenly the perfectly good car they had is now replaced with a $700 / month HP as Holden had a sale on.

So not necessarily the banks fault the consumer has racked up the credit cards and the personal loans or that one of the borrowers has lost their job/pregnant/injured etc. Interest rates will rise. I have predicted March/April 2014 but not necessarily because the wholesale funding costs have risen. I did say it would be bank driven. ANZ is offering a 10 year rate of 7.18%. What does this tell you?

I have posted a lot more information over a 4 year period. Maybe have a look at some of my previous posts to see exactly where my stance is.
 
And there off and racing Ladeeeeeez and Generalmen,


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/bu...s-rose-10-in-oct/story-fni0xqe3-1226779678338

 
Patchy with a chance of showers. Overall prognosis is with low rates only just starting to kick in and unemployment and CPI in RBA's target range (dollar still has got to drop under 90 ) then foreseeable future of Australian property prices is as I predicted. 3 year = Peak or near peak of cycle.


http://www.propertyoz.com.au/Article/NewsDetail.aspx?p=16&id=8685
 

http://www.thebull.com.au/articles/a/42883-the-cash-rate-cut-door-is-still-open.html

Dollar below 90 cents ... check
Lower interest rates having effect ... check
Banks softening lending practices ... check
RBA thinking about cutting rates again ... check
CERTAIN areas evidencing 20% + growth ... check

Employment is trending higher/lower/uncertain ... no check

Oh dear ..... here we go again !
 
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