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How are Daniel Andrews and Donald Trump comparable? Did Andrews make a similar statement to Trump?
 
The Third Wave classroom experiment in 1967 showed how easily and quickly a class and then practically a whole school can be whipped into a authoritarian fervour.
Fifty years after the experiment the teacher who developed the live replica of authoritarianism discussed the lessons of the project in the Trump era.

The Third Wave At 50
Stephanie Lee, Emma Cockerell and Alicia MiesOctober 6, 2016

Three high school students stand at strict attention with their backs straight and stiff, fists pounding on their chests, hands cupped in the shape of the letter “C.” They raise their hands toward the teacher, Mr. Ross, in reverence and duty. Ross shouts at three other students to stand, and they comply in a heartbeat.

The students chant, “Strength through discipline. Strength through community,” and Ross demands they shout louder.

More students join, standing from their desks, chanting and beating their chests. Passion and power seep through their deep cries — they unite as their voices rise from above the sounds of the chants and beats, their hands raised in a salute, their voices blending into an Orwellian proclamation of complete deference.

“STRENGTH THROUGH DISCIPLINE. STRENGTH THROUGH COMMUNITY.”

This eerie, “1984”-esque scene, an excerpt from the 1981 movie “The Wave,” depicts the rise to power of teacher at a suburban high school. The premise revolves around an experiment conducted nearly 50 years ago — in April 1967 — at Palo Alto’s own Cubberley High School. Mr. Ross is based on Contemporary World teacher Ron Jones, who was teaching a unit about Nazism during World War II.

http://verdemagazine.com/the-third-wave-at-50
 
basilio said:
The Third Wave At 50
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It will be interesting to see if the US population swallow Trump's bull for more than one term.

The idealist in me says "no", but we live in a strange world.

There's also a possibility that Trump himself will get bored after one term and not stand again. Having spread his empire the paltry pay of a President would not be worth his time.
 
"The wave" experiment isn't just about how the right come to power. Either side use similar tactics. If anything the group think is stronger in the left.
At this point in time I think the right is rising in response to the left.
 
moXJO said:
"The wave" experiment isn't just about how the right come to power. Either side use similar tactics. If anything the group think is stronger in the left.
At this point in time I think the right is rising in response to the left.
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To be honest Mo the group think with Trump supporters is really extraordinary partictuary the Christian support.

I just don't accept the right rising because of the left.

Organised labor has never been weaker in my lifetime

The Right dominate politics worldwide right now far out weighing the numbers they have versus the influence wielded and as shown in the US the power of the elite big money has been rarely seen in modern history.
 
Then there would be no pc culture, no #metoo, no get all white men, no toxic feminism, no madness at University where people are being attacked for their speech and Jordan peterson wouldn't be a trend. No one really likes trump imo. It's the backlash against being fed ideology from the left. How do you think he got in?
 
Pretty sure we discussed this a while back. Things went that way too.
 
moXJO said:
Pretty sure we discussed this a while back. Things went that way too.
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Yes the crystal balls have been proven correct, contrary to the avalanche of kumbaya nutters who think, because they have a social media voice they can change human behaviour.

It wouldn't matter what the agenda is, mice will always be contrary to the status quo if it makes them a lion amongst their peers. The cost of the current fad is fragmentation of national unity, emasculated males, trashing of national identity and a sellout to the barbarians waiting at the gate.
 
IFocus said:
I just don't accept the right rising because of the left.

Organised labor has never been weaker in my lifetime

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You are delusional if you think the right dominates.

However, the left is no longer about organised labour, they have forsaken you in favour of the so called (laughably) intelligentsia, neo marxist post modernists, toxic feminism, and abberant sexuality and sexual idendity.

You have become grist for the mill, sacrificial pawns in a game of political chess that is bound to lose spectacularly.

Organised labour now has more in common with conservatism than the modern left; tragically you will realise this when it's all too late.

Either way, you will be marginalised unless you wake up.
 
'The Elite' by defition dominate:
50% of the population of your beloved 'Western civilisation' will die with not a 'razoo' of capital wealth.
Considering that 50%, in the Australian context is that they own 50% of the resourse wealth of this continent. It's the best hope for the conservatives, that they don't wake up to that fact.
And the concentration of the accumulated wealth is going to a a smaller and smaller clique at the higher end of the upper decile.
And this I ask? is best addressed, in your considered opion, to the greater societial advantatage; by the 'Left'.... or 'Right'..... leaning side of the argument ?
 

What's with all the "snow flake" stuff

As a Protestant white male I have never been in a more privileged position.
 
I'm on record as saying somewhere near the middle is about right, orr. Anytime we get near either extreme is regressive... That about sums it up for me.
 
IFocus said:
Seriously you need to get out of your echo chamber.

BTW speech is not power wealth is and its concentration in not in the lefts hands.
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What do you think is my echo Chamber?

And do you believe you are not in your own echo chamber?
 
IFocus said:
What's with all the "snow flake" stuff

As a Protestant white male I have never been in a more privileged position.
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I wasn't complaining. I don't care if Trumps in the White house.
 
wayneL said:
I'm on record as saying somewhere near the middle is about right, orr. Anytime we get near either extreme is regressive... That about sums it up for me.
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Trouble is that extreme these days is what was centre was two generations ago.

Who wouldn't pine for the days when you could ogle the female form without having to avert your eyes out of fear, when you could tell a women how attractive they are, when you could have a point of view that ran counter to fun police, when a joke was taken on face value, when you could be loud and proud of your truly white gene pool, when you didn't have to show shallow sympathy for a loser, when true intelligence and talent dictated your ability to deliver innovative and progressive outcomes, when you weren't ostracized for daring to declare the king wasn't wearing any clothes, etc. ... apparently that is extreme right these days rather than the traditional left that it is.
 

You're starting to sound like Tony Abbott, believe me I don't think that is a bad thing.
Where we are now, is because of those very beliefs, funny how everyone wants us to digres from them
 
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