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The Elephant in the room - Taxation

Tax is certainly on the Government agenda, which is great IMO.

Australians are claiming billions of dollars worth of tax deductions for work-related expenses and managing their tax affairs as the concessions built into the tax system weigh on the amount of revenue flowing into federal coffers.

A breakdown of the latest tax expenditure report, used this week to justify the federal government’s planned changes to the tax on superannuation balances of more than $3 million, also show forgone revenue on everything from childcare to business research and development is growing faster than parts of the super system.
Outside superannuation and capital gains, the largest cost to the budget is work-related tax deductions, which are expected this year to reach a record $9.9 billion, a jump of almost 24 per cent since 2018-19. Next financial year, they are tipped to increase to $10.4 billion.
The tax concession report, first introduced by Paul Keating in 1986, attempts to track cost of forgone revenue caused by different tax rates or concessions across the entire tax system.

Last Tuesday’s report identified capital gains tax concessions and discounts on the family home, other assets and through trusts as the single largest tax expenditure in Australia at almost $72 billion, obliging Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to definitively rule out taxing the family home as “a bad idea”.
The surge in house values and share prices over the past four years have driven up the value of the concessional tax treatment of capital gains, but higher interest rates and a slowing economy are expected to reduce these concessions over the next three years.
The second largest are the concessions on employer superannuation contributions and the lower tax rate on super earnings, which amounted to $50 billion.

While capital gains and superannuation are the two largest concessions, there are now more than 300 of which some are almost impossible to measure because they are so small they are difficult to estimate.

In 2019-20, 86 per cent of the total tax reduction via work-related deductions went to people with an above median taxable income, with more than one-quarter going to people in the top 10 per cent of income earners.
Men, who accounted for 65 per cent of reductions, received on average a $1050 reduction. About 4.7 million women received an average tax reduction of $600.
For the first time, the report notes about 6.6 million people claimed $4 billion for the cost of managing their tax affairs in 2019-20. This reduced total tax payments by $1.4 billion.

This year, the forgone tax is estimated to cost the budget $1.6 billion. Labor went to the 2019 federal election with a now-abandoned proposal to cap the amount a person could claim for managing their tax affairs to $3000.
The fastest growing expense is the exemption for NDIS recipients from forms of income tax. After growing by almost 59 per cent since 2018-19 to $8.1 billion, this is tipped to climb another 19.2 per cent to $12 billion by 2025-26.
Over the next four years, four of the five fastest growing tax expenditures are expected to be sectors that are exempt or zero-rated for the GST – childcare services, residential care, financial supplies and health services.
The exemptions, put in place as part of the original deal struck by John Howard with the Australian Democrats in 1999 to get Senate approval for the GST, are expected to be worth $31 billion this year.
Government debt reached $901.3 billion on Friday, the record under the Albanese government, but was exceeded under the Morrison government in early 2022. The Albanese government in October forecast debt to reach a record $1 trillion by mid-2024.

Chalmers said it was important to recognise that the “right path is not always the path of least political resistance”.
Amazing :
work related tax deduction increased by 24% since 2018..you mean 24% in 4 years with ramping inflation since 2018 plus the fact that many people are now working from their homes rather than the company office..?
Any real journo would notice and say ONLY 24%?
Stop wasting and spending money instead of endless sucking dry the nation..and all the pension and benefit people, the ALP to join the chorus and shout "bloody bastards".
This nation is sick, and not sure it can heal with that state of mind
 
good luck finding a real journalist ( outside of marginalized alternate media )

but that is not a new issue , it has been evolving over decades
so is the ignorance and sheepleness of journalism a mirror of society..I am afraid it could be..
or is this just the fact that any thinking brain does not end up in journalism..whereas it used to be a pole of intellect a few decades ago
 
so is the ignorance and sheepleness of journalism a mirror of society..I am afraid it could be..
or is this just the fact that any thinking brain does not end up in journalism..whereas it used to be a pole of intellect a few decades ago
Yes the days of seasoned reporters, has long gone and sadly missed. These reporters didn't have the luxury of the internet to copy and paste their reports, more the school of hard knocks. This guy was the last reporter I took any notice of.

Oakes was born in Newcastle, New South Wales, the son of Wes and Hazel Oakes. His father worked for BHP as an accountant. When Oakes was six years old, his father was transferred to Cockatoo Island, a small island off the coast of Derby, Western Australia, where there was an iron ore mine. He began his schooling at a one-teacher school with only 20–30 children.[1] Oakes later moved back to New South Wales and attended Lithgow High School.[2][3] He graduated in 1964 from the University of Sydney while working part-time with the Sydney Daily Mirror.

At the age of 25 he was the Melbourne Sun's Canberra Bureau Chief and while working for that paper he began providing political commentaries for the TV program, Willesee at Seven. In 1978 he began The Laurie Oakes Report, a televised political journal. In 1979 he joined Network Ten and worked there for five years. He has since written about politics for The Age in Melbourne and the Sunday Telegraph in Sydney. He commentated for several radio stations.[4]
In 1997, Oakes used leaked documents to report on abuse of parliamentary travel expenses, which ended the careers of three ministers, several other politicians and some of their staff.[4] More recently he used leaked documents showing the Rudd Government ignored warnings from four key departments about its Fuelwatch scheme.[6]

Oakes has been a weekly contributor to various Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (PBL) owned media outlets, including the former Channel 9 television program, Sunday. He has also been a regular reporter for Nine News.[7] He wrote a weekly column for The Bulletin magazine until it ceased publication in January, 2008. Oakes then wrote for news.com.au publications until his retirement.[8]

In a 2004 interview, Oakes said: "My personal politics are pretty much in the middle, I would think. I've voted both ways at various times. I don't know if perceptions about my politics influence whether people will be interviewed. [Paul] Keating used to boycott the program every now and again; not because he thought I was a Liberal but because he thought I wouldn't toe the line. Paul believed in rewards and punishment."[10]

Oakes has been nicknamed the "Sphere of Influence" by Crikey.[

He announced his retirement date as 18 August 2017.[9]
 
so is the ignorance and sheepleness of journalism a mirror of society..I am afraid it could be..
or is this just the fact that any thinking brain does not end up in journalism..whereas it used to be a pole of intellect a few decades ago
from my interaction with large media , part of the devolution started with the bias towards certified ( read tertiary educated ) staff

the concept was first brought home to me when a high-school class-mate rose to a senior reporter in a capital city group of publications ( circa 1980's -1990's )

while his grip of English grammar was very good , his ability to create a wheel-barrow of words where a single sentence would have been adequate ( think several levels of verbosity more than my best efforts ?) ... was noteworthy

after a quick check on the search engines i see the said class-mate has moved into a career in financial planning

which probably explains the slide in grammar in Australian publications
 
I am not sure if anyone has picked up on this



If I understand correctly the newly recruited 87,000 armed agents would bring a total of something like 183,000 which would be close to the number of US Marine's.

There is talk of the Education Department doing similar recruitment.

Not sure if anyone else find this a little confusing.........perhaps I am just old. :thumbsdown:

bux
 
Yes the days of seasoned reporters, has long gone and sadly missed. These reporters didn't have the luxury of the internet to copy and paste their reports, more the school of hard knocks. This guy was the last reporter I took any notice of.

Oakes was born in Newcastle, New South Wales, the son of Wes and Hazel Oakes. His father worked for BHP as an accountant. When Oakes was six years old, his father was transferred to Cockatoo Island, a small island off the coast of Derby, Western Australia, where there was an iron ore mine. He began his schooling at a one-teacher school with only 20–30 children.[1] Oakes later moved back to New South Wales and attended Lithgow High School.[2][3] He graduated in 1964 from the University of Sydney while working part-time with the Sydney Daily Mirror.

At the age of 25 he was the Melbourne Sun's Canberra Bureau Chief and while working for that paper he began providing political commentaries for the TV program, Willesee at Seven. In 1978 he began The Laurie Oakes Report, a televised political journal. In 1979 he joined Network Ten and worked there for five years. He has since written about politics for The Age in Melbourne and the Sunday Telegraph in Sydney. He commentated for several radio stations.[4]
In 1997, Oakes used leaked documents to report on abuse of parliamentary travel expenses, which ended the careers of three ministers, several other politicians and some of their staff.[4] More recently he used leaked documents showing the Rudd Government ignored warnings from four key departments about its Fuelwatch scheme.[6]

Oakes has been a weekly contributor to various Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (PBL) owned media outlets, including the former Channel 9 television program, Sunday. He has also been a regular reporter for Nine News.[7] He wrote a weekly column for The Bulletin magazine until it ceased publication in January, 2008. Oakes then wrote for news.com.au publications until his retirement.[8]

In a 2004 interview, Oakes said: "My personal politics are pretty much in the middle, I would think. I've voted both ways at various times. I don't know if perceptions about my politics influence whether people will be interviewed. [Paul] Keating used to boycott the program every now and again; not because he thought I was a Liberal but because he thought I wouldn't toe the line. Paul believed in rewards and punishment."[10]

Oakes has been nicknamed the "Sphere of Influence" by Crikey.[

He announced his retirement date as 18 August 2017.[9]
Interesting that the Wikipedia entry omitted to mention probably his biggest scoop, namely the outing of an affair between Gareth Evans and Cheryl Kernot. (see Australian Politics . )
Perhaps it did not rate highly in the media.
Mick
 
Interesting that the Wikipedia entry omitted to mention probably his biggest scoop, namely the outing of an affair between Gareth Evans and Cheryl Kernot. (see Australian Politics . )
Perhaps it did not rate highly in the media.
Mick
the affair in itself, who cares, the fact that cheryl destroyed the democrats, the only alternative to the duopoly as a results and move these poor souls into the ALP is what I want to remember, this signed the end of democracy in Australia;
now we clique sharing power and patting their own backs
 
This attack of the 'rich' folk's super must be applied to the pollies as well. It's likely to get reversed anyway I suppose once Liberals get back in, which is increasingly likely with Labor resorting to type.

What are the odds that the Snake Chalmer floats a death tax during this term?
I used to hate the Idea of a death tax, I am kinda in favour of it now though, not so much for amounts of under say $3 Million, but I think the dynastic wealth should be taxed when it transfers inter generationally.
 
Yes the days of seasoned reporters, has long gone and sadly missed. These reporters didn't have the luxury of the internet to copy and paste their reports, more the school of hard knocks. This guy was the last reporter I took any notice of.

Oakes was born in Newcastle, New South Wales, the son of Wes and Hazel Oakes. His father worked for BHP as an accountant. When Oakes was six years old, his father was transferred to Cockatoo Island, a small island off the coast of Derby, Western Australia, where there was an iron ore mine. He began his schooling at a one-teacher school with only 20–30 children.[1] Oakes later moved back to New South Wales and attended Lithgow High School.[2][3] He graduated in 1964 from the University of Sydney while working part-time with the Sydney Daily Mirror.

At the age of 25 he was the Melbourne Sun's Canberra Bureau Chief and while working for that paper he began providing political commentaries for the TV program, Willesee at Seven. In 1978 he began The Laurie Oakes Report, a televised political journal. In 1979 he joined Network Ten and worked there for five years. He has since written about politics for The Age in Melbourne and the Sunday Telegraph in Sydney. He commentated for several radio stations.[4]
In 1997, Oakes used leaked documents to report on abuse of parliamentary travel expenses, which ended the careers of three ministers, several other politicians and some of their staff.[4] More recently he used leaked documents showing the Rudd Government ignored warnings from four key departments about its Fuelwatch scheme.[6]

Oakes has been a weekly contributor to various Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (PBL) owned media outlets, including the former Channel 9 television program, Sunday. He has also been a regular reporter for Nine News.[7] He wrote a weekly column for The Bulletin magazine until it ceased publication in January, 2008. Oakes then wrote for news.com.au publications until his retirement.[8]

In a 2004 interview, Oakes said: "My personal politics are pretty much in the middle, I would think. I've voted both ways at various times. I don't know if perceptions about my politics influence whether people will be interviewed. [Paul] Keating used to boycott the program every now and again; not because he thought I was a Liberal but because he thought I wouldn't toe the line. Paul believed in rewards and punishment."[10]

Oakes has been nicknamed the "Sphere of Influence" by Crikey.[

He announced his retirement date as 18 August 2017.[9]
Ah a class journalist is always going to be a hard act to improve on. Laurie was the "king".
 
This Elephant just got richer but I don't know why it happened.

Went into my account to pay a bill and noticed a deposit from the ATO dated today. It wasn't a large amount. The first perplexing issue is, apart from declaring interest on the account, I haven't provided the ATO with those account details for any other purpose. The second is what is it for? As I do not deal with the ATO except via an accountancy firm and as I don't have a MyGov account for anything not even Medicare, I decided to occupy the accountant's time and asked them to investigate.
Don’t question it—just take the money and run. Easier to get blood out of a stone than getting money out of the ATO
 
I used to hate the Idea of a death tax, I am kinda in favour of it now though, not so much for amounts of under say $3 Million, but I think the dynastic wealth should be taxed when it transfers inter generationally.
I just don’t understand this logic…why does the government have the right to impose a tax just because dynastic wealth passes from one generation to the next. I just do not understand why this is ok. This will no doubt involve assets that various government have managed to impose other taxes in the past—double dipping if you ask me. I say no to any death tax no matter the amount involved.
 
I am not sure if anyone has picked up on this



If I understand correctly the newly recruited 87,000 armed agents would bring a total of something like 183,000 which would be close to the number of US Marine's.

There is talk of the Education Department doing similar recruitment.

Not sure if anyone else find this a little confusing.........perhaps I am just old. :thumbsdown:

bux
yes , i saw it intensively discussed ( and sometimes mocked and ridiculed ) elsewhere ,

they are wasting their effort on education

some are already pre-trained




a diversity-hire to boot


you may be old but that doesn't translate to unwise or confused , possibly not aligned to the narrative might be more accurate
 
I just don’t understand this logic…why does the government have the right to impose a tax just because dynastic wealth passes from one generation to the next. I just do not understand why this is ok. This will no doubt involve assets that various government have managed to impose other taxes in the past—double dipping if you ask me. I say no to any death tax no matter the amount involved.
I agree with NO Death tax Policy. It was scrapped yonks ago and should be left there to rot
 
I just don’t understand this logic…why does the government have the right to impose a tax just because dynastic wealth passes from one generation to the next. I just do not understand why this is ok. This will no doubt involve assets that various government have managed to impose other taxes in the past—double dipping if you ask me. I say no to any death tax no matter the amount involved.
i bet the tax is not applied equally to all ,

double-dipping , triple-dipping , you are getting between a politician ( or government official ) and a pile of money , what did you expect ( them to care whose money it is ?? )

at least Ned Kelly met you face to face ( with guns ) when relieving you of your wealth
 
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