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It's expanding away from the massive black hole that was where from the big bang banged.
It will at some point start to contract back to that, when the momentum of the explosion is finally overcome by gravity sucking it back together, at which point we will begin to be greeted by trillions of different types of alien visitations in a kind of cosmic Mardi Gras -



At which point Tony Abbot will be on a world Bible bashing tour talking up the 'No Vote' on marrying martians because the world is still flat and only straight fossil fuel burning humans can go to heaven.
 
tech/a said:
then all stars that supply heat light etc to planets in galaxies will have burnt out of fuel.
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New stars are forming all the time.

Stars live for billions of years and do die eventually, and then when they do eventually die, they often explode, and then the remaining material can form a new star, clouds of hydrogen called nebular are also making new stars form.

Our own Star (the sun) is a second generation star, if formed from the remains of a larger star that exploded, earth and the other planets are the other fragments left by that explosion.
The entire universe will be cold black and totally lifeless. No one will be looking
at anyone and pondering anything.
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Yes, thats called "the heat death of the universe", thats a long way away, that our galaxy won't suffer heat death for Trillions of years, long after our galaxy sits lonely and isolated.

So where is all this expansion going?
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Its expanding everywhere infinitely


This short video explains why even though space is expanding galaxies don't.
 
notting said:
It's expanding away from the massive black hole that was where from the big bang banged.
It will at some point start to contract back to that, when the momentum of the explosion is finally overcome by gravity sucking it back together,.
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Not really, that may be true for our galaxy.

However the space in between the galaxies is expanding at a faster rate than the galaxies can be drawn together by their gravity.

So gravity is strong enough to hold our galaxy together, but it isn't strong enough to draw galaxies together faster than the space in between is expanding.

it blows my little monkey brain,

The Big Bang wasn't actually a big bank in a single spot, more of an everywhere stretch.

 
SirRumpole said:
Yep, invisibility would be no problem for them.
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The sci-fi movies offer some imaginations regarding what another 'intelligent' lifeform would look like. Considering gravity, atmosphere, light, temperature and nutrients shape life, any form is possible.
 
Space isn't expanding because it would have to be expanding into something other than space, which would be?????
Space is not limited and is neither expanding nor contracting. Further none of it exists independently of our mental projection! Which is formless and has no beginning or end! You can't cut, burn, drown of blow up awareness, nor can you find a beginning or end to it. Which is why science and law find it so hard to determine what the point of death and beginning of a human form is. At what point is abortion killing etc....
Death is a mere shedding of skin, though our fear and clinging to the idea we are this body makes it hard to think and see outside that box. Most of us tend not to relate in any way other than materially reduced to the body so tend not to see beyond that. Despite the fact that awareness itself has nothing in common with form for instance. This is my Christmas message

PS - Don't argue with me because I do actually know everything.

PPS apart from how to write.
 
notting said:
Space isn't expanding because it would have to be expanding into something other than space, which would be?????
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Nope, space is expanding its all explained here.

we can see that space is expanding because things that are really far apart are moving faster than the speed of light, this is due the the vast amounts of expanding space in between are expanding at pushing them apart

 
That is drivel.
He posits a date for.the beginnnimg of time then admits 'they think' tme has a beginning. How rediculous.
Science has this religious like obsessiom with beginnings and ends.
Further, If sometimg is expamdimg into itself it is not expanding nor is space expandimg in it. It already is. If it is becoming what it already is it is not becoming. Another rediculous notion.
 
You will have to take it up with the physicists, the fact that space is expanding is pretty much universally accepted by the scientists studying it.
 
Value Collector said:
You will have to take it up with the physicists, the fact that space is expanding is pretty much universally accepted by the scientists studying it.
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It remains a hypothesis premised on time having a beginning. Which is a classic scientific blind spot.
 
Value Collector said:
You will have to take it up with the physicists, the fact that space is expanding is pretty much universally accepted by the scientists studying it.
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Have one in the family and he has a few as mates
Will be meeting with a group of them over Xmas and will
Specifically ask. But VC is correct with the expansion thing
Notting is also correct with the beginning of time theory.

I’m sure there is more.
Amazing topic
 
Value Collector said:
We can observe the expansion happening and measure it.
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What is it expanding into? exactly?
If space is expanding it follows that space is expanding in a measurable direction and there are no directions independent or mutually exclusive from space.
 
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Tisme said:
If everything is expanding it stands to reason we (humans) are too?
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Not quite. We just need to remove the vales. We're not intrinsically human, it's a condition and ultimately a mere imputation at that!!
Fortunately Quantuum physicists are, finally, breaking science out of it's obsessive cult like faith in material reductionism.
 
notting said:
What is it expanding into? exactly?
If space is expanding it follows that space is expanding in a measurable direction and there are no directions independent or mutually exclusive from space.
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I am not a physicist, so I don’t know exactly how to explain it, but apparently it doesn’t have to expand “into” anything, but yeah as I said not actuall scientist out there is claiming it’s not expanding, the expansion of space is observable, measurable and it’s happening all the time, everywhere.
 
Value Collector said:
the expansion of space is observable, measurable and it’s happening all the time, everywhere.
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As stated before it's relative, to certain 'assumed fixed paradymes' by scientists, including what they questionably determine is space.
 
And shrinking, push and pull, black holes, ad in.. Our minds find it hard to consider no beginning or if there was how did it start and even how we exist to know and discuss it.
 
explod said:
And shrinking, push and pull, black holes, ad in.. Our minds find it hard to consider no beginning or if there was how did it start and even how we exist to know and discuss it.
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Compared to other masses in the human observable field (universe?), this mass (Earth) is the greatest improbability all. The distance from a source of heat and light, the mass of this planet, the evolution of atmosphere on this planet, the moon mass effect on this planet are ingredients of the things that complete a comparatively improbable living mass.
 
Not really, I mean even if something is a 1 in a billion chance occurance, can you really say it’s “improbable” if there trillions and trillions of opportunities?

If there are millons of trillions of stars in the universe, and the rate of earth like planets forming is 1 out of every billion Stars, then it is highly probable that earth would have formed.

Then an intelligent life form might find itself on the planet saying “whoah, it’s so improbable I exist” but that is no different to the winner of a lottery saying its improbable they won, they odds are people will be winning all the time, just due to the shear number of tickets being bought,
 
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