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sr20de said:
You want a conspiracy,

Total Joke: Hillary Says Russia Runs Trump
More unproven claims being made by Clinton campaign
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Trump said Obama founded ISIS and was the President that put troops in Iraq when it was actually GWB.

Not just 'unproven' claims, totally false , malicious and stupid.
 
SirRumpole said:
Trump said Obama founded ISIS and was the President that put troops in Iraq when it was actually GWB.

Not just 'unproven' claims, totally false , malicious and stupid.
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You dont think the US attack on Iraq (oil and arms money) Afghanistan (oil, gas arms), sneaky toppling of the Ukraine Govt a few years back to a business US supporting regime to try and cut Russian oil and gas supply lines have not been the major cause of revolt by the people on the ground facilitating the rise of so called extremists including ISIS.

So Trump's pretty well hitting the nail on the head. He just exaggerates in his vehement excitement in front of a crowd.

Ukraine a bit off subject, but interesting that aeroplane crash gone quiet, pretty obvious now that the early theories that it was a US backed (Ukrainian held Russian missile) action.
 
explod said:
So Trump's pretty well hitting the nail on the head. He just exaggerates in his vehement excitement in front of a crowd.
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Trump may have hit the nail on the head when it comes to US foreign policy over a range of administrations, but trying to sheet it home to Obama and Clinton personally is absurd.
 
SirRumpole said:
Trump may have hit the nail on the head when it comes to US foreign policy over a range of administrations, but trying to sheet it home to Obama and Clinton personally is absurd.
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Agree, its just the overall conspiracy drift that Trump is picking up on and its touching a spot with a lot of their people.e

Zero Hedge is certainly throwing up some gaff theories on Clinton which at current tempo will be having an impact.

Hard for us to comprehend, but Trump could make the Whitehouse.
 
Anyone investigated the Clementine Mission and recto-linear structures on the moon?
 
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Talking about conspiracy theorists.

Fox News is embarrassing, who whats this stuff, check out this video where they resorted to allowing some red neck, climate change denier on to try and talk down the Tesla truck.

Both the host and the guest are idiots.

 
Value Collector said:
Sounds like an attention seeker to me.

But if they have identified them as aliens, why are they still calling them "UFOs".
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IMV the softening up has started. We are being gradually opened up to the idea that aliens may exist so that it won't be such a shock if they pay us a visit in a way that can't be covered up.
 
You doubt this!

You have a duck posting on this site----What more proof do you want.

We are out there.
 
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SirRumpole said:
IMV the softening up has started. We are being gradually opened up to the idea that aliens may exist so that it won't be such a shock if they pay us a visit in a way that can't be covered up.
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I have no doubt that life exists else where in the universe, But I have huge doubts that they have visited earth, the claims just seem to follow pop culture to closely, and there is never any evidence.
 
Value Collector said:
I have no doubt that life exists else where in the universe, But I have huge doubts that they have visited earth, the claims just seem to follow pop culture to closely, and there is never any evidence.
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There is actually a lot of evidence including from military pilots who have chased theses things, but it's not repeatable and therefore can't be studied scientifically with any certainty.
 
SirRumpole said:
There is actually a lot of evidence
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What is the best piece of evidence?

including from military pilots who have chased theses things, but it's not repeatable and therefore can't be studied scientifically with any certainty.
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we have lots of claims about all sorts of things eg Big foot, ghosts, angels, etc but the time to believe is when we have more evidence that can be verified.

Even if the claims of "UFO" sightings are true, they are still "Unidentified flying objects", its a leap to say they are alien, when you don't know what they are.

eg. Saying "I don't know what that is, so it must be aliens" is to big of an assumption.

How have we ruled out all the the other fanciful claims, why must it be aliens? how did we rule out time travellers? for example, if we are going to open up the possibility of any far fetched ideas why leap to aliens.
 

Because the other explanations (like time travellers) are equally if not more fanciful.

we have lots of claims about all sorts of things eg Big foot, ghosts, angels, etc but the time to believe is when we have more evidence that can be verified.
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It's doubtful if military aircraft are scrambled to chase ghosts and angels. Anyway I'm prepared to bet that you haven't read many ufo cases and you are just arguing off the top of your head, so I suggest you do a bit of research before scoffing too much.
 
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