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Knobby22 said:
Well Fox is a good mainstream example about how to make money by telling half the story and avoiding things that their followers don't want to hear e.g. Trumps wife story about how she got into the USA and that degree she claimed (but didn't do).If you want to find out you need to go to another site.

If you go to the site right now you can see everything Trump is saying with no reporting of Clinton. Yes, I would say that is an example that proves your point.

Free media shows all the news. Unfortunately people are becoming more partisan and just want to see their bias confirmed. That goes for the left wing publications also. Forutantely there are still enough people who want to know the truth.
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Actually when I lived in China I found AL Jezeera to be the best unbiased reporting I'd ever witnessed......
 
Knobby22 said:
Yes, true.
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But not true of Al Jazeera Arabic. One of the most biased news services around according to reports I have read from people I respect. They often run stories that are diametrically opposite to what they say on the English service.
 
Back to real conspiracies...!!

I was just watching a George Gently episode on Iview called "Breathe in the air" . Short story is an investigation into the apparent suicide of a woman doctor. Turns out she was going to blow the whistle on a local factory that was causing scores of asbestos related deaths in the community. It's set in 1969.

Quite powerful. "These days" we are all aware of how deadly asbestos is. So what was the story in 1969 ? A bit of Google and I found this.

This website offers quite detailed documentation on the widespread understanding of business of how lethal asbestos was and the effect on workers and their families.

But I can remember how long it took Australia to finally take action and get effective results on the effects of this wonder product,
March 4, 2004
Asbestos: Think Again: Industry hid dangers for decades
SOMETHING IN THE AIR: The asbestos document story


Nothing proves the culpability of the asbestos manufacturers in the death and injury of asbestos workers quite like internal documents from the companies themselves. These papers, just a handful of which we present here, prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the companies and their insurers knew the hazards of asbestos and concealed this information from workers for decades. More than any other piece of evidence, it is the companies' own internal papers that have convinced juries of citizens across the country that workers and their families deserve compensation to help them manage the severe and often fatal health consequences of working with asbestos.
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http://www.ewg.org/research/asbestos-think-again/industry-hid-dangers-decades

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/inspector-george-gently/ZW0121A002S00 Breath in the air

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Take the trouble to check out that website and in particular read over the internal reports to the various companies on the dangers of asbestos, solvents, fumes, noise, whatever.

.....And then perhaps consider your views on Industrial health and Safety
 
Asbestos is a truly sad story simply because the dangers were known long before most of it had even been mined. Practically the entire industry sprang up after the dangers were already known and proceeded to put the stuff practically everywhere.

If it's a building in Australia and built before 1980 then almost certainly there's asbestos in it somewhere.

Likewise every car on the road until quite recently emitted asbestos dust in normal operation. Brakes, clutches and an assortment of gaskets.

The other one in that category is leaded petrol. Credible people and organisations raised serious concerns at the time of its introduction, sales were actually suspended in the US whilst an inquiry was conducted in the 1920's, and even the oil company workers suffered early ill effects from producing the stuff.

There's a bit more to it once you realise that General Motors was heavily involved with TEL (Tetra Ethyl Lead) and patented the stuff for use in petrol. Meanwhile automotive industry rival Ford had always been in favour of ethanol (alcohol) which when added to petrol achieved the same result of raising octane and preventing engine knock.

Those looking for a conspiracy may find it somewhat interesting that the US prohibition on alcohol just happened to occur when TEL manufacturers were seeking to introduce the product to large scale use and was lifted once that had been achieved. For the next few decades, no matter what brand of car you bought in just about any country, GM made a profit every time you filled the tank.

Somewhat clearer than the reasons are the effects of TEL. Pick just about any city or country on earth and plot a chart of violent crime with sales of leaded petrol on the same chart. You'll find a 20 year lag between sales of leaded petrol and violent crime both with the rise and fall just about everywhere. Places that phased out lead beginning in the 1970's saw such crime peak in the 1990's. Those who phased it out later saw violent crime peak later. Given the established link between lead exposure in early childhood and the affect on mental development a link between the two does seem at least very plausible even if there's no absolute proof (but it's an amazing coincidence, repeated just about everywhere, if TEL isn't the cause).

Much is often said about the tobacco industry and its evils and whilst I agree with much of that (and I don't smoke), the asbestos and leaded petrol industries are at least as bad if not worse. At least the tobacco companies can legitimately claim that the dangers were found after mass use of their product commenced whereas with both asbestos and TEL the dangers were known right from the start but they went ahead regardless.

We're rid of TEL now thank heavens apart from a little bit used in some aviation fuels (though the lead pollution of the natural environment is hard to reverse - it's even in the ice at the north pole) but asbestos is something we're going to be getting rid of pretty much forever. A hundred years from now it will still be found in old buildings etc. :2twocents
 
I was just watching Wallender and the story was around a Swedish naval commander who was hiding the true story of the submarines that invaded Swedish waters in the 1980's. At the time it was believed they were from USSR and it caused a huge turnaround in Swedens international military position.

The story ends up saying they were in fact American subs deliberately intended to create a "Russian scare". The effect was to completley reverse public sentiment and force the Swedish PM to become harshly anti-Soviet

Anyway I decided to check out the story.

Seems it was all true.

CIA, NATO and Swedish Military Plotted Regime Change in Sweden in 1980s
‘Heroes’ and victims of 80’s US disinformation provide clues to today’s Russian scare



To win the cold war President Ronald Reagan formed a secret ‘deception committee’ for a disinformation campaign against the USSR

On several occasions ‘disinformation’ put the world on the brink of nuclear war

The ‘Soviet’ U-boat scare that shook Sweden in the 80s was caused by US and UK subs that penetrated Swedish territorial waters disguised as Russian ones

Swedish military were fully aware of these operations but did not report to Prime Minister, Olof Palme

The number of Swedes believing in a Soviet threat increased fourfold

‘Dove’ Palme had no choice but to take anti-Soviet stance
He was assassinated the day before his trip to meet Gorbachev whom he saw as a like minded person

The 52 minutes documentary “Deception: The Methods of Reagan” by German director Dirk Pohlmann premiered last May on ‘ARTE’ the French/German highbrow channel. Broadcast late at night and early in the morning, it generated no reaction.

It has not been shown in Sweden, although it throws light on two of the most dramatic episodes in modern Swedish history – the Soviet U-boat scare of the 1980s that was suddenly repeated in 2014, and the assassination of the Swedish premier Olof Palme in 1986. This film is not a Hollywood thriller, but a sequence of stories told by people who have faces, names, titles and ranks.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-na...tted-regime-change-in-sweden-in-1980s/5508970


Submarines and PSYOPs

Tunander's study of covert political structures goes back to his experience of high-profile submarine activities in Swedish archipelagos and naval bases in the 1980s. His books from the 1980s accepted the official view. In 1983, Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme protested against the "Soviet intrusions". He was forced to cancel his policy and deep-freeze Sweden's diplomatic relations to Moscow.[17] In 1980, 8% of the Swedes viewed the Soviet Union as a direct threat and 33% considered the Soviets as hostile. After a stranded Soviet submarine in 1981 and primarily after a dramatic anti-submarine operation in 1982 with midget submarines inside Swedish naval bases, these figures changed to 42% and 83% respectively,[18] which forced Sweden to deep-freeze its Soviet ties.

However, in the 1990s, Tunander was told by U.S. and British officials that these operations were run by the U.S. and the U.K. In 2000, former U.S. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and former U.K. Navy minister Keith Speed stated on Swedish TV that their subs had operated "regularly" and "frequently" in Swedish waters to test Swedish defenses after navy-to-navy consultations.[19] This information was confirmed by British Chief of Defence Intelligence Air Marshal Sir John Walker.[20] Chairman of the NATO Military Committee Vigleik Eide, and Secretary General of NATO George Robertson added that these were not NATO operations but operations under national command (U.S. and U.K.).[21] This led to a Swedish Government inquiry under Sweden's former Washington Ambassador Rolf Ekéus with Ambassador Mathias Mossberg as Secretary and with Tunander as a civilian expert.[22] Tunander wrote a Swedish book Hårsfjärden (2001), articles for the Swedish Journal of War Sciences, the Zürich-based Parallel History Project,[23] and an English volume for the Frank Cass Naval History Series The Secret War against Sweden: US and British Submarine Deception in the 1980s (2004), which emphasized the submarines' role to change Swedish public opinion and foreign policy. Tunander argued that Soviet submarines might very well have entered Swedish waters, but the more visible operations were most likely PSYOPs decided by a U.S. "deception operation committee" chaired by CIA Director William Casey, and some of them were run by a CIA-Navy liaison office, National Underwater Reconnaissance Office, headed by Secretary of Navy John Lehman.[24]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ola_Tunander
 
Assange is a dead man walking...


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https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/767543410936909824
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Wikileaks did seed/torrent a 88gb encrypted file earlier this year.

Presuming that Assange has a dead-man switch for it, if he is taken out.

 
I'm fairly sure some of us are descendants of a progenitor interstellar race. We share donor dna from humans so we could acclimate into earth's environment.

Humans are necessarily an altered state ape previously going through rapid evolutionary change to get to a stage where they are industrious workers for the hybrid aliens.

Of course the master race is Nordic which answers the questions of why they figure persistently in the progressive movements of civilisation and why the historical royal bloodlines around the world, especially Britain's, share a remnant dna that ape evolved humans don't have.

The current DNA experiments are the next step of modification in homo sapiens to keep them up to speed with the illuminati's needs.
 
Tisme said:
I'm fairly sure some of us are descendants of a progenitor interstellar race. We share donor dna from humans so we could acclimate into earth's environment.

Humans are necessarily an altered state ape previously going through rapid evolutionary change to get to a stage where they are industrious workers for the hybrid aliens.

Of course the master race is Nordic which answers the questions of why they figure persistently in the progressive movements of civilisation and why the historical royal bloodlines around the world, especially Britain's, share a remnant dna that ape evolved humans don't have.

The current DNA experiments are the next step of modification in homo sapiens to keep them up to speed with the illuminati's needs.
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I was under the impression that our DNA is being altered by aliens who zip around abducting people and implanting them with micro chips that track them over generations, and females are impregnated with alien sperm to produce a super race that will eventually dominate the planet.

Well, that's what I heard on Foxtel anyway.

;)
 
SirRumpole said:
I was under the impression that our DNA is being altered by aliens who zip around abducting people and implanting them with micro chips that track them over generations,
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is it not what DNA is???
" and females are impregnated with alien sperm to produce a super race that will eventually dominate the planet.
That explains the China miracle ;-)
 
SirRumpole said:
I was under the impression that our DNA is being altered by aliens who zip around abducting people and implanting them with micro chips that track them over generations, and females are impregnated with alien sperm to produce a super race that will eventually dominate the planet.

Well, that's what I heard on Foxtel anyway.

;)
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Bulldust. There's no way that aliens would need to use such primitive technology as micro chips! Everybody knows that they're way too advanced for that! (At least the one's I am acquaintanced with are!)
 
Prominent columnist says China’s rise to power can no longer be seen as friendly

http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...y/news-story/260adfde60967d20ccb0fe35106b8708

Interesting given the below,

Cyber War
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/08/29/4526527.htm

&

US, China Prepare For Electronic Warfare Standoff In South China Sea
Both the US and China appear ready and willing to engage in a contest of electronic warfare capabilities

http://www.infowars.com/us-china-prepare-for-electronic-warfare-standoff-in-south-china-sea/
http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/electronic-warfare-south-china-sea/

In closing infowars.com is not satire, it is a source to be used if you so choose, from there you must conduct your own research and come to your own decision. We all have free will, do not be deceived.
 
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