Value Collector
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What about it?
I am fine with it.
The Xenophobic people who hate or are scared of foreign investment.
For example what is your take on the largest piece of property on earth eg. - Sir Sidney Kidman Cattle Ranch
http://www.news.com.au/finance/real...a/news-story/1d718ac16b476794d54ee976455d30a4
Is this in Australias best interest or for money?
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What about the,
Chinese company Landbridge to operate Darwin port under $506m 99-year lease deal
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-...bridge-wins-99-year-darwin-port-lease/6850870
Who is the sheep in these transactions?
I'm not prepared to let the forum be flooded by non-stop posts about conspiracy theories. This is a stock market forum, not a conspiracy theory forum. If conspiracy theories is all you have to add to the thousands of discussions here at ASF then you have clearly chosen the wrong forum.
What about it?
I am fine with it.
The Xenophobic people who hate or are scared of foreign investment.
Was my Harry Dent post more on topic.
Since the US elections will have no impact on markets nor would a carbon tax.
The point is not just to post but to engage in discussions. If you are nothing more than a conspiracy theory posting bot then you are simply cluttering the forum with rubbish. If you are here to discuss a range of topics with others then that is different. But something tells me you are just here to push conspiracy theories. It will become clear soon enough.
Logically if you no longer control the ranch for example, what if the new owners turn around and decide to feed themselves first literally. Doesn't that bother you, allowing for that to occur.
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It is not fear of foreign investment, rather it is selling the farm literally.
For security reasons alone it should bring about some worry surely, the port the ranch, what next the water supplies.
I could post a lot of articles relating to such issues but the moderator is already displeased with my overthinking, at perhaps it is not making sense to others at the moment.
Back on topic, wouldn't you sell the produce to them, not the farm.
Have you done some research into where the money comes from from China? From my understanding it is more often than not state owned. Further if it were the other way around, an we wanted to buy the biggest ranch in the world that was based in China, would they let us? What are your thoughts
The issue i have with the Chinese owning anything, rather than leasing, is that its not possible to own anything in China....
Why would you make your foreign investment policy based on what other countries are doing?
Why wouldn't you make your policy based on what is in the best interests for our economy?
you can own all sorts of business interests in china, the fact they have some weird communist type land ownership law shouldn't effect what we do here.
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As I said, Australia has not reached it's max capacity for farming investment, so having foreign investment is a net plus, its not preventing Australians investing.
We will have the same level of control over the new owners as we did the previous ones, the new owners will no doubt continue to sell their produce to the highest bidder, exactly the same as the old owners, Australia has no shortage of grazing land, what we have is a shortage of people willing to invest and become cattle producers.
They can't take it with them, the assets will stay here and continue adding to the economy.
Cutting and pasting articles requires little thought, so I don't think you are in danger of over thinking.
Produce requires a producer, we need more producers and more investors, I welcome anyone who wants to make big investments into increasing Australia's production, we are not anywhere close to our capcity to absorb investment, and very few Aussies are willing to take the risk and put their investment dollars where their mouth is.
I don't care if it was state owned, provide they are putting dollars into increasing Australia's production, I am all for it.
Australians do make investments in china, I myself am an investor in Chinas biggest theme park, But either way, whether they let us invest or not is irrelevant to whether it makes economic sense for us to have more investment in the agricultural sector.
because they're lousy managers, corrupt, self interested, lawless, abusive thugs...as well:bad:
I just don't trust the mainlanders.
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Who cares as long as it is increasing GDP, is what I am hearing..
That is quite interesting how you are an Investor in China, what theme park is it if you do not mind me asking of course you do not ave to tell me.
However I foresee potential issues once you have sold such assets off. Others appear to have concerns similar to mine why sell them the land when if you were to turn the situation around, it just simply would not happen.
I worry as a nation we are too politically correct and assume everyone will do us no harm. Since you dislike when I point out articles which have lots of information embedded in them, I will summarise best I can.
Yet we openly advertise out land for all,
Further not to be anti Chinese, but if you make something n another country to me the designs are compromised, look at the apple gadgets, you don't think at some time they might have been copied?
Back to your point they can't take it with them, ok fair call but you really want to sell it off to start with.
Why don't we focus on building our own nation before we sell off our building blocks, literally.
Could you or anyone else really guarantee the same amount of control over an asset once sold, you sound like you enjoy when others are asleep.
I return to the point how much ore has Australia already sold to China, is that going to magically regrow? Is the mining boom over now or is that going to regrow, or is that another one of my conspiracy theories.
Is globalisim the answer,
Take a look at the Walt Disney companies because foreign investment ever, and yes, its an investment in china.
Well that's a big generalisation to put over 1 Billion people in.
remember they can't take the assets with them, if they are bad managers let the regulators or the market punish them.
China is a special case when it comes to investment, especially in critical infrastructure like water supplies and power grids and we are simply naive to assume that they will not use their investment for political purposes.
Remember the ASIO building built by Chinese interests that had to be ripped up when monitoring devices were found in the walls ?
If they can control food supplies to us then that is just another notch on their barrel of political control.
There are economics of foreign investment,but there is also politics, and Morrison did the right thing by knocking back Chinese investment in Ausgrid.
Imho, all investments in Australian assets should have majority Australian investment. Then we can have the political advantage of control over our assets while allowing our markets to have an interest as well. Mutual benefit.
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Surely it could be promoted as a part of the Australian culture and possibly added to an apprenticeship scheme of some sort, or perhaps organising work experience and overall promoting and explaining why this job is essential to Australia.
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Imho, all investments in Australian assets should have majority Australian investment. .
That just comes down to the number of Australians willing to make investments, when most Aussies only want to invest in real estate inside the capital cities, and hate having more than $10,000 in shares, and will sell at the first hint of market fluctuations, we will never have enough local capital available.
We could be 100% Aussie owned if the average Aussie was as keen to invest and they were at hating on the foreigners investing.
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