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The Biden Presidency

Mo I have no idea what creative source you have been reading suggests that the Trump administration was promoting/forcing better governance.
The facts on the ground about how Trump governed make that a monstrous lie. If you won't see that reality not much point in even trying to discuss anything much is there ?
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Key indicators of Trump admin trashing good governance
  • Appointing various family members to government positions with no effective skills or qualifications
  • Using his position as President to enrich his family enterprises
  • Undermining the capacity of the Us government to deal with the corona virus
  • Attempting to strong arm State electoral officials to overturn the election results
and another thousand or so examples. His overall failure to ensure good goverance on basic administration activities is well summed up in the following article.

But this is a Biden presidency thread so maybe we refocus ?
Over nukes, that's what the post was about. They wanted stronger measures against Russia as the old warheads are not what Russia is interested in anymore.
 
"These sorts of people"


That's basically a big "Fcuk you" statement to everyone on that list.

My statement wasn’t limited to just the people mentioned here, I was talking more broadly about the Fox News type people who have allowed their social media algorithms to confine them to an echo chamber.

It’s true you can’t have a rational conversation with people like that because they think everything is a conspiracy, and think the worst of everything.

They allow themselves to be bombarded with so much misinformation and craziness, that no other rational thought can break through.
 
My statement wasn’t limited to just the people mentioned here, I was talking more broadly about the Fox News type people who have allowed their social media algorithms to confine them to an echo chamber.

It’s true you can’t have a rational conversation with people like that because they think everything is a conspiracy, and think the worst of everything.

They allow themselves to be bombarded with so much misinformation and craziness, that no other rational thought can break through.
Aside from governing better than the previous Administration, Biden now has to cut through social media that has little capacity for honesty.
Here's one from in Ben Shapiro today, who has the credibility and intellect of Andrew Bolt.


According to Shapiro, language used by Biden such as "unity" or "truth versus lies", are "deliberately vague." "Facts" are also apparently subjective. Maybe some Americans can be confused by these very clear English senses, but the notion they are "vague" beggars belief. Shapiro goes on with some other delusions, including that "there is no crisis of race relations" in America. Did the millions of Americans protesting across the nation for sometimes weeks on end have some other objective?
As Shapiro's final delusion in the video relates to climate change, nothing Biden will do or even achieve over the next 4 years will ever change the minds of those who, like Trumpers, are rusted on to the messiah.
So an important issue for Biden is if he can make inroads into the minds of Americans who want others to do their thinking. Will Biden's resurrection of science as a foundation for beliefs make a difference? And will Biden's policies that have a rational foundation on evidence gain broader acceptance than those which previously pandered to baseless popularism?
 
My statement wasn’t limited to just the people mentioned here, I was talking more broadly about the Fox News type people who have allowed their social media algorithms to confine them to an echo chamber.

It’s true you can’t have a rational conversation with people like that because they think everything is a conspiracy, and think the worst of everything.

They allow themselves to be bombarded with so much misinformation and craziness, that no other rational thought can break through.

Perhaps.. at the extreme point of the scale that happens. But I think (hope..) that not everyone who follows Fox news ends up unable to see another perspective and in fact have some balance in their lives.

And inside "Fox News'" there are different perspectives including reporting of events with some balance.

The real challenge IMO is the commentary from the Hannitys and co. who relentlessly promote the misinformation, lies and crazy ideas. Just one example. Have any Fox commentators made explict denouncements of Q Anon ? Pointing out its craziness and poison ? I don't know the answer. Perhaps someone can throw some light on the topic.
 
Perhaps political "discussion" (and I use that term loosely) has run its course at ASF? This thread is the biggest waste of database space I think I have ever seen in almost seventeen years. I don't think any interesting debate or discussion is likely to happen in this thread, or any other political thread at ASF.

There's nothing of value, or of interest, going on here. It's an intellectual dead zone.


Joe the US and to some extent Australian political threads simply reflect the current state of play in the US.

This is where daily outrage, divisive, false accusations and painting any opposing this as the enemy or criminals (QAnon) etc are used with supporters actually believing and or following.

Normal morals have been suspended to support political leaders who brag about assaulting women along with any number of other egregious behaviours.

So in an environment when facts are not facts, no version of the truth can be found, conspiracy theories abound and are believed with no morals leadership its IMHO these days the threads represent completely normal behaviour.

The fringe is now mainstream.
 
Joe the US and to some extent Australian political threads simply reflect the current state of play in the US.

I don't understand why some people have invested so much emotion into an election and a political system in another country, seemingly above and beyond our own elections and political system.

U.S. elections used to be an over-the-top sideshow that we watched from the sidelines every four years and then shrugged and moved on when the results were announced. It was viewed with a very detached passing interest that disappeared just as quickly as it appeared.

Now we have Australians not just actively supporting candidates in the U.S. Presidential election, but campaigning for them online, and becoming very upset or elated when their candidate loses or wins.

When did we become the 51st state of the USA? I must have missed it. Sorry, but I find this all a little bizarre, and I hope I'm not alone.
 
Wow.


Biden revokes Trump order that shielded U.S. power grid from Chinese involvement​


President Joe Biden has rescinded an executive order of former President Donald Trump that was designed to prevent foreign countries meddling with the U.S. power grid. Trump's order specifically prohibited "any acquisition, importation, transfer, or installation" of bulk-power system (BPS) electrical equipment by "foreign adversaries."
 
This is Joes' version woman's sport.

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Wow.


Biden revokes Trump order that shielded U.S. power grid from Chinese involvement​


President Joe Biden has rescinded an executive order of former President Donald Trump that was designed to prevent foreign countries meddling with the U.S. power grid. Trump's order specifically prohibited "any acquisition, importation, transfer, or installation" of bulk-power system (BPS) electrical equipment by "foreign adversaries."
Interesting to see how well that ages.
 
It will be interesting to see how the U.S respond to China's Taiwan flyovers, funny they didn't do when Trump was in office, that's one advantage of a U.S president who is unpredictable.
It probably wont be long before China ups the anti on Taiwan and commences integration. IMO It will be interesting to see how Biden handles it.

 
Here is something different. A Presidential Press Conference with an articulate President answering a full range of questions from the media which is holding him to account. One for the record books.;)

For those interested I have attached an URL to CNN which looks at the range of activities, investigations and Executive Orders undertaken by the Biden Administration.
Highlights include
  • DOJ Investigation into the 2020 election.
  • State of play on Trump impeachment in the Senate
  • New directives on "Buy Amercian" policies for the US government.
 
Biden has had his first talks with Putin. There is a continuation of some of Trumps policies and a sronger line on Russia interference in teh elections.

Interesting take on the tone of the conversation.
The Kremlin’s account described the conversation as “frank and businesslike” – a turn of phrase often used to describe tense discussions.

 
It will be interesting to see how the U.S respond to China's Taiwan flyovers, funny they didn't do when Trump was in office, that's one advantage of a U.S president who is unpredictable.
It probably wont be long before China ups the anti on Taiwan and commences integration. IMO It will be interesting to see how Biden handles it.

China is definitively pushing
We jave already seen the Biden administration ramping up its too old record of anti Russia Xi is believing, as i do, that with Biden, he is free to go on Taiwan.
Poor Taipei..like HK was, a great place for Chinese culture.
They must have cried when Trump was overthrown
 
China is definitively pushing
We jave already seen the Biden administration ramping up its too old record of anti Russia Xi is believing, as i do, that with Biden, he is free to go on Taiwan.
Poor Taipei..like HK was, a great place for Chinese culture.
They must have cried when Trump was overthrown
Hong Kong had the port and worlds best container management system, they needed to copy. Taiwan has got a first world chip manufacturing industry, China needs to copy.
The rich in the U.S will still be o.k. so it will be fine, just got to get back to "put China first".
 
I don't understand why some people have invested so much emotion into an election and a political system in another country, seemingly above and beyond our own elections and political system.

U.S. elections used to be an over-the-top sideshow that we watched from the sidelines every four years and then shrugged and moved on when the results were announced. It was viewed with a very detached passing interest that disappeared just as quickly as it appeared.

Now we have Australians not just actively supporting candidates in the U.S. Presidential election, but campaigning for them online, and becoming very upset or elated when their candidate loses or wins.

When did we become the 51st state of the USA? I must have missed it. Sorry, but I find this all a little bizarre, and I hope I'm not alone.

I think Trump was such a departure from previous POTUSes that he generated a lot of emotion, both for and against.

That's very obvious here.

The good thing about Biden's victory is that he is a mild mannered , relatively bland person that does not generate a great deal of hatred , apart from a few extreme groups, so the atmosphere will settle down as he gets into the job.

I feel a calming influence already. :smuggrin:
 
I think Trump was such a departure from previous POTUSes that he generated a lot of emotion, both for and against.

That's very obvious here.

The good thing about Biden's victory is that he is a mild mannered , relatively bland person that does not generate a great deal of hatred , apart from a few extreme groups, so the atmosphere will settle down as he gets into the job.

I feel a calming influence already. :smuggrin:
You are right,he is just a corrupt nobody as many predecessors.while i was deeply disappointed by Obama who xas just a puppet, i do not believe he was corrupt.
Biden or at the very least his son is corrupt, that's a given for any non partisan observer..but maybe we should not judge the Dad for the son's actions.
While he is bland and a good puppet, the administration he leads is already starting a maccarthyist witch hunt and applying the Reset plan while restarting the Russian hatred and giving up with China
Nuremberg and Chamberlain in one
I do not expect his presidency to be bland even if the man is,and we might not see him much longuer anyway.
This will have terrible impact on Australia as well
 
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