One thing I have learned over the last 4 years, is that you can’t have a proper conversation with these sorts of people, they have let their social media echo chamber feeds cabbage up their heads.Looks like ASF has it's own version of Fox & Friends, with @wayneL, @DB008, @moXJO and @dutchie dragging out tenuous matters or plain lies.
First, @wayneL claims that Biden did a 180 degree turn on fracking, yet we find that this is an issue gone over many times in the media, and it has never been true. Next, his claim about "throwing women sports people under the bus" has nothing to do with women in sport, and everything to do with discriminatory laws relating to gender identity or sexual orientation. Finally, there is no covid duplicity as the twit McCain claims because Fauci never said masks "didn't work." Fauci has championed wearing masks in America, but his message was consistently undone by America's worst ever President.
@moXJO's point on START is way off beam as the START arms control treaty with Russia is about limiting both countries to no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads rather than technology.
Sorry mate, you are delusional, especially in respect to women's sport.Looks like ASF has it's own version of Fox & Friends, with @wayneL, @DB008, @moXJO and @dutchie dragging out tenuous matters or plain lies.
First, @wayneL claims that Biden did a 180 degree turn on fracking, yet we find that this is an issue gone over many times in the media, and it has never been true. Next, his claim about "throwing women sports people under the bus" has nothing to do with women in sport, and everything to do with discriminatory laws relating to gender identity or sexual orientation. Finally, there is no covid duplicity as the twit McCain claims because Fauci never said masks "didn't work." Fauci has championed wearing masks in America, but his message was consistently undone by America's worst ever President.
@moXJO's point on START is way off beam as the START arms control treaty with Russia is about limiting both countries to no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads rather than technology.
Ah, before even trying to have a conversation, you go ad hom.One thing I have learned over the last 4 years, is that you can’t have a proper conversation with these sorts of people, they have let their social media echo chamber feeds cabbage up their heads.
Look at you having to resort to identity debating because of lack of substance. You want to actually look at the reality or are you still sucking rainbows out of Bidens ass.
Maybe try to understand why the Trump administration was trying to force better governance (What the Xuck!!!) while Biden actually hamstrung the US
Yes there was a similar group during Trumps four years. Hypocrite.Looks like ASF has it's own version of Fox & Friends, with @wayneL, @DB008, @moXJO and @dutchie dragging out tenuous matters or plain lies.
First, @wayneL claims that Biden did a 180 degree turn on fracking, yet we find that this is an issue gone over many times in the media, and it has never been true. Next, his claim about "throwing women sports people under the bus" has nothing to do with women in sport, and everything to do with discriminatory laws relating to gender identity or sexual orientation. Finally, there is no covid duplicity as the twit McCain claims because Fauci never said masks "didn't work." Fauci has championed wearing masks in America, but his message was consistently undone by America's worst ever President.
@moXJO's point on START is way off beam as the START arms control treaty with Russia is about limiting both countries to no more than 1,550 deployed nuclear warheads rather than technology.
There is zero discussion of The Biden Presidency in this thread. If this thread continues as it has been recently I will just close it.
All I see is doctored images, tweets from partisan sources and conspiracy theories.
Political "discussion" at ASF has reached an all-time low.
Maybe delete a few blatant propaganda posts as an example ?
Just my opinion.
Biden has already signed 19 Executive Orders and undertaken Administrative reforms to reshape America's fortunes.Perhaps political "discussion" (and I use that term loosely) has run its course at ASF? This thread is the biggest waste of database space I think I have ever seen in almost seventeen years. I don't think any interesting debate or discussion is likely to happen in this thread, or any other political thread at ASF.
There's nothing of value, or of interest, going on here. It's an intellectual dead zone.
Biden has already signed 19 Executive Orders and undertaken Administrative reforms to reshape America's fortunes.
Yes, there is a lot of low hanging fruit to choose from, but we seem to be turning to vegetables.So there is plenty of topics relevant to The Biden Presidency to debate and discuss in this thread, but it seems not many are interested in seriously debating issues of policy. It's easier to post a tweet, a conspiracy theory, or a link to a partisan website.
I randomly chose a thread from 15 years ago titled Today's "anti-terrorist" raids and the difference between discussion then and now couldn't be more stark. That thread is content heavy, thoughtful, nuanced, respectful, and interesting. Even though there are some unpopular and perhaps fringe views expressed by one or two people.
How did we manage to arrive at a place where the "content" (again, I use the term loosely) in a political thread can consist primarily of ad hominem attacks, trolling, conspiracy theories, partisan tweets and photos of dubious origin?
Perhaps I can respectfully suggest that those who are not interested in engaging in genuine discussion and debate find another venue to post at. Most of what has been posted in this thread recently is embarrassing, and I'm not prepared to let it continue.
Dealing with the political fallout of the Trump inspired attack on the Capitol. A previously unthinkable action but now a reality that can't be ignored.
Typical bas. Did you know what they were actually trying to achieve?Clearly MoXjo is trying to win the Biggest Troll of the Year Award with that piece of whimsy.
The Trump administration forcing better governance? Truly Trump wouldn't know what the word meant (except that it's intended to stop his corruption) and clearly Mo has no clue either.
What a total sick joke.
One thing I have learned over the last 4 years, is that you can’t have a proper conversation with these sorts of people, they have let their social media echo chamber feeds cabbage up their heads.
Before Trump was booted he actually enacted 10 year sentences to anyone who damaged federal buildings. It was meant for antifa, but little did he know.Deciding whether to prosecute Trump and inflame his supporters again, or let the issue quietly die.
The actual invaders need to be prosecuted, but prosecuting Trump himself could be a dangerous move.
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