The Albanese government

[SirRumpole]

I think it is all about optics, politicians have to cover all voter bases, so they have to be seen to pander to Palestinian sympathisers and Israel sympathisers.

These people are tiny minorities compared to everyone who goes to work, earns a living and pays taxes.

That's why the primary votes of the major parties have been falling for years, the middle is getting sick of being squeezed out of the debate by the fringe groups.

At least Labor seems to recognise that by giving wage and tax relief, it may save their bacon at the next election.

 

[sptrawler]

Depends if people are more interested in paying their bills, than having a future?
The real issue that will get Labor back in, is Dutton, who unfortunately is the Shorten of the Libral Party.
It's all about optics, Albo knows that and has played a blinder.

 

[IFocus]

Your government supports terrorism. Has done for decades.

After all, Israel is a terrorist group.

I saw what you did there 99 clearly you are not in the herd.

 

[Smurf1976]

Addressing the original question, well I've no idea whether or not he's any intention of pursuing federal politics but the current premier of SA, Peter Malinauskas, in my view runs rings around either Albo or Dutton in terms of focus on the state and the nation's future.

I say that simply because he has an actual vision that acknowledges the path we're on at present isn't sustainable. He's actually been doing it at public forums recently, putting a chart up showing Australia's national economic complexity and reliance on industries where the writing's on the wall as to their future (eg coal) and addressing the problems head on. From there follows discussion of water pipelines, desalination plants, smelters and refineries, power stations, ports, rebuilding TAFE, aerospace, defence, manufacturing, that university has a role but it isn't where all our kids ought be going, and so on. A lot of the stuff that's been discussed in various threads on this forum as needing to happen and it's all about increasing economic complexity and reducing reliance on "dig and ship" of a small number of commodities.

Albo and Dutton are immature kids in comparison. They just don't talk about important issues facing the nation and instead side track to anything they can think of that avoids addressing the elephants in the room. They're more like magicians, seeking to distract the audience from what's really going on rather than revealing the truth.

So whether he's any thoughts about federal politics I've no idea, but at least one state premier does stand out as being focused on real issues not distractions so the idea has certainly occurred to me that he might have ideas of making a move at some point.

 

[Sean K]

Your government supports terrorism. Has done for decades.

After all, Israel is a terrorist group.

@ASIO

 

[SirRumpole]

Depends if people are more interested in paying their bills, than having a future?

I don't think those two aspirations are mutually exclusive.

After all, if you can't pay your bills, your future is pretty bleak.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't think those two aspirations are mutually exclusive.

After all, if you can't pay your bills, your future is pretty bleak.

Which is exactly what's happening.

 

[farmerge]

Addressing the original question, well I've no idea whether or not he's any intention of pursuing federal politics but the current premier of SA, Peter Malinauskas, in my view runs rings around either Albo or Dutton in terms of focus on the state and the nation's future.

I say that simply because he has an actual vision that acknowledges the path we're on at present isn't sustainable. He's actually been doing it at public forums recently, putting a chart up showing Australia's national economic complexity and reliance on industries where the writing's on the wall as to their future (eg coal) and addressing the problems head on. From there follows discussion of water pipelines, desalination plants, smelters and refineries, power stations, ports, rebuilding TAFE, aerospace, defence, manufacturing, that university has a role but it isn't where all our kids ought be going, and so on. A lot of the stuff that's been discussed in various threads on this forum as needing to happen and it's all about increasing economic complexity and reducing reliance on "dig and ship" of a small number of commodities.

Albo and Dutton are immature kids in comparison. They just don't talk about important issues facing the nation and instead side track to anything they can think of that avoids addressing the elephants in the room. They're more like magicians, seeking to distract the audience from what's really going on rather than revealing the truth.

So whether he's any thoughts about federal politics I've no idea, but at least one state premier does stand out as being focused on real issues not distractions so the idea has certainly occurred to me that he might have ideas of making a move at some point.

@Smurf1976 From reading this post the SA Premier sounds like he has the get up and go.
Still it wouldn't take much to find someone better than Elbow of Dudton
Pity there weren't more of his ilk lurking in the wings

 

[wayneL]

@Smurf1976 From reading this post the SA Premier sounds like he has the get up and go.
Still it wouldn't take much to find someone better than Elbow of Dudton
Pity there weren't more of his ilk lurking in the wings

There are. But politics is about deals and in general the people we actually need, won't do terrible deals with sociopaths.

Big problem with the system.

 

[farmerge]

So on the TV news tonight that idiot Elbow has now really got up the left nostels of the live sheep/cattle exporting fraternity, with a pizz poor joke about this subject.
The moron is just that a bloody moron.
Of course as most of the live export is from WA they don't really care if it is finished off.

 

[Smurf1976]

@Smurf1976 From reading this post the SA Premier sounds like he has the get up and go.
Still it wouldn't take much to find someone better than Elbow of Dudton
Pity there weren't more of his ilk lurking in the wings

No doubt he's imperfect like everyone but what I like is he's not avoiding hard issues.

Want to talk about the economic complexity of Australia and reliance on a small number of key industries with a very doubtful future? Want to talk about disposal of nuclear waste? Or the housing crisis?

He'll have that conversation in a town hall meeting type situation when put on the spot by some random member of the public. And he'll give answers that won't please everyone.

Meanwhile when I look at federal politics I see constant avoidance of hard issues from both sides. They keep coming up with distractions, anything they can think of, to avoid discussing real problems. That's gone on for decades now, sending Australia down the dead end track of being China's quarry.

So whilst I've no doubt they're all imperfect, if someone's at least willing to discuss hard issues, and is actually answering questions, well I'll respect that far more than the rest. That's not to say I agree with him on every issue, there are things where I disagree, but we need more like him in parliament yes. People who at least grasp the real issues and that change is needed beats those who carry on like kids.

 

[wayneL]

The snake eating its own tail?

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/chalmers-urges-cfmeu-protesters-to-be-peaceful-as-rallies-held-against-administrator/news-story/51f0e5b0dcfb08179c59c00e07f3a52d

 

[mullokintyre]

The Albanese government should be given crdit for this peice of legislation that makes it an offence to "dox" people who would otherwise remain privates.
Doxing has become a weapon to be used by a range of angries to play the man rather than the ball.
From Evil Murdoch Press

Mick

 

[wayneL]

The Albanese government should be given crdit for this peice of legislation that makes it an offence to "dox" people who would otherwise remain privates.
Doxing has become a weapon to be used by a range of angries to play the man rather than the ball.
From Evil Murdoch Press

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Mick

Finally, some good legislation.

 

[Sean K]

Albo had some 'very strong words' to say about the protests planned for 7 Oct at a presser just then.

Meanwhile, Tony Burke hasn't done a thing about the leader of the protests in Melbourne last week. An Iranian national.

Maybe something will be done with this guy as he's not a member of Burke or Clare's electorate.

The ALP and the Greens have been absolutely pathetic in controlling this threat to Australian peace and harmony.

 

[farmerge]

Albo had some 'very strong words' to say about the protests planned for 7 Oct at a presser just then.

Meanwhile, Tony Burke hasn't done a thing about the leader of the protests in Melbourne last week. An Iranian national.

Maybe something will be done with this guy as he's not a member of Burke or Clare's electorate.

The ALP and the Greens have been absolutely pathetic in controlling this threat to Australian peace and harmony.

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These sort of people should be instantly exported back to the rat hole from whenst they came.
Certainly not wanted here.

 

[mullokintyre]

Albo had some 'very strong words' to say about the protests planned for 7 Oct at a presser just then.

Meanwhile, Tony Burke hasn't done a thing about the leader of the protests in Melbourne last week. An Iranian national.

Maybe something will be done with this guy as he's not a member of Burke or Clare's electorate.

The ALP and the Greens have been absolutely pathetic in controlling this threat to Australian peace and harmony.

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Bit rich for an Iranian to be calling Oz a Tyrannival terrorist regime.
Has he looked at his own rulers recently?
if he said that in his own country he would be dead by now.
Dumber than a half eaten chip.
Mick

 

[wayneL]

Bit rich for an Iranian to be calling Oz a Tyrannival terrorist regime.
Has he looked at his own rulers recently?
if he said that in his own country he would be dead by now.
Dumber than a half eaten chip.
Mick

There is a sizeable cohort who've been gaslighted into actually believing it

 

[sptrawler]

These sort of people should be instantly exported back to the rat hole from whenst they came.
Certainly not wanted here.

As the narrative would say, we can't jump to conclusions, we need need to work out the voting preference of the demographic represented .

 

[mullokintyre]

Australia’s net migration target for the last financial year risks being overshot by as much as 100,000.
Migration planning levels contained within the May budget projected the net overseas migration intake would fall to 395,000 in the 2023-24 financial year, down from 518,000 in the preceding 12 months.
However, immigration experts and economists say the net overseas migration (NOM) intake – which measures the difference between the number of international arrivals staying longer than 12 months, and the number of long-term and permanent departures – would likely be much higher.