The Albanese government

[sptrawler]

I think people have woken up to Sky and all that other Murdoch crap after what happened with Turnbull and Rudd prior to that and for the first time in a decade they played little part in this election. Icing on the cake if they spent millions doing it

That IMO is bizarre. ?
You think the electorate thinks back that far?
If it had to do with what happened to Turnbull and Rudd, Shorten would have won. I think, you're over thinking it.
Maybe spending too much time reading the SMH and listening to ABC IMO. ?
If you remember, Murdoch said " we can afford a term of Labor", during Shortens campaign.

 

[PZ99]

That IMO is bizarre. ?
You think the electorate thinks back that far?
If it had to do with what happened to Turnbull and Rudd, Shorten would have won. I think, you're over thinking it.
Maybe spending too much time reading the SMH and listening to ABC IMO. ?
If you remember, Murdoch said " we can afford a term of Labor", during Shortens campaign.

Your last sentence just contradicted the rest of your post. Please remind us why Murdoch said " we can afford a term of Labor"... they were undermining the Turnbull Govt.

As for overthinking.... I don't listen to the ABC nor read the SMH... isn't that a subscription thingy ?

Who on earth would pay to read subscription media unless it's to confirm their own prejudices ?

 

[mullokintyre]

Albo has taken a most important step in visiting Indonesia with Penny Wong.
There is a nation of 270 million people on our doorstep, about ten times the number of our own fair citizens.
Indonesia as an ally is far more important than China, the US, or the UK.
Only India ranks in strategic, economic and cultural importance close to that of Indonesia.
It is to be hoped that if Albo and PW achieve anything, it is a permanent and constructive upgrading of the relationship with our most populous neighbour.
I await with bated breath.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Albo has taken a most important step in visiting Indonesia with Penny Wong.
There is a nation of 270 million people on our doorstep, about ten times the number of our own fair citizens.
Indonesia as an ally is far more important than China, the US, or the UK.
Only India ranks in strategic, economic and cultural importance close to that of Indonesia.
It is to be hoped that if Albo and PW achieve anything, it is a permanent and constructive upgrading of the relationship with our most populous neighbour.
I await with bated breath.
Mick

Before China does IMO.

 

[sptrawler]

Your last sentence just contradicted the rest of your post. Please remind us why Murdoch said " we can afford a term of Labor"... they were undermining the Turnbull Govt.

No, it was the unlosable election, if you actually want to be accurate.

Even the TAB were paying out on a Labor win before the election, so trying to get the mixmaster out, to wiz up spin doesn't cut it. ? ? ?

But it's great to see, you still have creativity.

No one needed to undermine Turnbull, he did a good enough job himself, he is still digging the hole today sadly.?

History proves, that that those who readily turn on their own, have trouble getting others to trust them.

As for for Rudd he is about as much a Labor person as Turnbull, let's see if he gets a job as an ambassador, I FFing hope not, the two of them should be duct taped together and sent into orbit IMO.

 

[PZ99]

No it was the unlosable election, if you actually want to be accurate.

Nothing to do with that election... it was all about replacing Turnbull with Dutton the previous year.

In any case it was fitting the Sky news at night anchors all had a sook because their party lost. It was worth changing the Govt just for that reason alone. Naturally they'll campaign against Albo and Co whenever they can for the rest of their term particularly on climate and economic policies.

Like I said... I hope they lose millions doing it. They won't even be able to claim losses because they avoid tax.

Meanwhile... winners are grinners

 

[sptrawler]

I thought you didn't watch, " Sky news at night anchors all had a sook because their party lost. It was worth changing the Govt just for that reason".
Do you have to pay to watch sky news?
It doesn't come up on my T.V.

 

[sptrawler]

Meanwhile... winners are grinners

Yes it should be great for the worker on the award rates, which is terrific, they are the unappreciated people that actually pay for everything through their taxes, consumption, holidays, socialising and surviving.

The sad part is, you obviously paint Albo with the same brush as Rudd, Turnbull, Gillard, Shorten.
I certainly hope it doesn't stick.

 

[PZ99]

I thought you didn't watch, " Sky news at night anchors all had a sook because their party lost. It was worth changing the Govt just for that reason".
Do you have to pay to watch sky news?
It doesn't come up on my T.V.

No I don't watch " Sky news at night anchors all had a sook because their party lost. It was worth changing the Govt just for that reason"

Their little sook fest gained mainstream media attention and I posted the article here. I think you even liked it

 

[PZ99]

Yes it should be great for the worker on the award rates, which is terrific, they are the unappreciated people that actually pay for everything through their taxes, consumption, holidays, socialising and surviving.

The sad part is, you obviously paint Albo with the same brush as Rudd, Turnbull, Gillard, Shorten.
I certainly hope it doesn't stick.

I haven't painted Albo with any brush. I've said many times I don't rate him highly and I don't retract from that yet.

 

[sptrawler]

Their little sook fest gained mainstream media attention and I posted the article here. I think you even liked it

I like most of the things you say, they normally seem balanced and measured, christ knows what has happened to you. ?

 

[sptrawler]

I haven't painted Albo with any brush. I've said many times I don't rate him highly and I don't retract from that yet.

Well that's good, but from my perspective, he is the first non attention seeker that Labor has put up since Kim Beazley.

That is the refreshing thing about this election, it is the first in a long time, where persona and personality didn't win.

 

[PZ99]

I like most of the things you say, they normally seem balanced and measured, christ knows what has happened to you. ?

Nothing has happened to me bro...

 

[sptrawler]

Nothing has happened to me bro...

That's great, Murdoch is no different to any other media , they are trying to sell their product, they all focus on whoever they think has the money to buy their product.
As was shown this election and last election, the city elites are moving left, therefore the media will move left, as they are the ones who buy the product.
To think that one media is bad and another is good, just doesn't work for me, I paint them all with the same brush.
Most media opinion pieces these days are written by inner city yuppies, or ex celebrities, or social influencers that have no understanding of real life challenges, yet everyone holds them up as ffing gurus.
Just my opinion but there is a reason most people end up poor, they listen way too much to other people and the media and they think they are gurus.

 

[PZ99]

That's great, Murdoch is no different to any other media , they are trying to sell their product, they all focus on whoever they think has the money to buy their product.
As was shown this election and last election, the city elites are moving left, therefore the media will move left as they are the ones who buy the product.
To think that one media is bad and another is good, just doesn't work for me, I paint them all with the same brush.

That's your opinion mate and I respect that but I reserve the right to disagree with it.
Murdoch has a long history of attempting to influence elections and/or undermine Govts they don't like.
It's one of the reasons why one of his sons left the company in disgust.
They publicly endorse the Coalition at elections in the same way the Guardian endorse leftist parties.

 

[sptrawler]

That's your opinion mate and I respect that but I reserve the right to disagree with it.
Murdoch has a long history of attempting to influence elections and/or undermine Govts they don't like.
They publicly endorse the Coalition at elections in the same way the Guardian endorse leftist parties.

As do the Guardian, the SMH, the AGE and the ABC, how do you differentiate between right and wrong?
The Murdoch press leans right, the ex Fairfax press, the Guardian and the ABC lean left, why condemn one side?
Like I've said over and over, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, if you shut down the Murdoch press, well you would probably be like China.

 

[PZ99]

As do the Guardian, the SMH, the AGE and the ABC, how do you differentiate between right and wrong?
The Murdoch press leans right, the ex Fairfax press, the Guardian and the ABC lean left, why condemn one side?
Like I've said over and over, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, if you shut down the Murdoch press, well you would probably be like China.

Why condemn one side ? Because it's just that one side that acts like a political party rather than a media outlet.
I think just about everyone knows that News Corp has a long history of scandals.

 

[sptrawler]

Why condemn one side ? Because it's just that one side that acts like a political party rather than a media outlet.
I think just about everyone knows that News Corp has a long history of scandals.

I don't condemn any side, I think they are all there to pedal their opinions and beliefs, to further their own ends.
You're the one that thinks only one media outlet has it's own agenda.

 

[PZ99]

I don't condemn any side,

I never said you did. I just answered your question.

The Murdoch press leans right, the ex Fairfax press, the Guardian and the ABC lean left, why condemn one side?

Why condemn one side ?

Because it's just that one side that acts like a political party rather than a media outlet.

Because it's only one side that peddles extreme right-wing propaganda and the rank disinformation that comes with it.

 

[sptrawler]

I never said you did. I just answered your question.

Why condemn one side ?

Because it's just that one side that acts like a political party rather than a media outlet.

Because it's only one side that peddles extreme right-wing propaganda and the rank disinformation that comes with it.

And are you saying that there isnt an equal and opposite side of the media? If that were so only one party would ever win elections.
To think Labor are always right and should always be in office is just silly, as is to think think the coalition should be.
Governments stay in, until they run out of ideas, or fall out of favour.