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Who is going to be the first to try and knife Airbus next year?

  • Marles

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Chalmers

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Wong

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Plibersek

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Shorten

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Burney

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    9
In a broader sense there's an awful lot going wrong at the moment.

Housing, inflation, energy, wars overseas, industry closing, rising bond yields, wobbly stock markets, full time jobs seem to be in decline, etc.

Some of this is beyond the control of the Australian government but some of it's within its power to deal with if it's up to the task.

I say that having serious doubts that either side is actually up to the task. :2twocents
It doesn't seem as though any Govt wants to bring on a recession, which really is one of the only ways to reset prices.
The same issues we are having in Australia, seem to be happening in the U.K, maybe the Govts are afraid of an escalation of hostilities if the West has a severe recession.
But I find it strange that the house spiral is being allowed to continue, in the end workers have very little reason to go to work, when all they are doing is treading water or going backwards.
Also now we are seeing a contraction in their wealth, as the stock market shrinks, so does their super, so not only are house prices escalating away, their last hope backup plan of maybe when I retire I can pay off my mortgage with my super, is looking shaky.

Interesting times.
Even the ABC is starting to take note, which tells us it must be getting bad, I'm surprised there hasn't been a halt put on immigration, maybe waiting until closer to the election.
 
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We have an empty 5 bedroom home here on the farm. Empty and uninhabited it will stay.
Over the years only had 1 good tenant the rest can go and live in a car or tent or cardboard box.
Damage and destroyed houses are not worth having a tenant as far as we are concerned.
 
#AirbusAlbo has been in Washington for 36 hours now and hasn't met the President.

edit: just saw them together on Sky News standing on some steps and Biden said something along the lines of 'I don't know where I am', or something.
 
#AirbusAlbo has been in Washington for 36 hours now and hasn't met the President.

edit: just saw them together on Sky News standing on some steps and Biden said something along the lines of 'I don't know where I am', or something.
Biden is deeply involved with the Israeli's trying to work out a better way - possibly not involving a ground invasion.

Honestly no one has time for Albo at present....and as for him visiting Israel on the way back - that would be annoying for the Israelis.
 
Biden is deeply involved with the Israeli's trying to work out a better way - possibly not involving a ground invasion.

Honestly no one has time for Albo at present....and as for him visiting Israel on the way back - that would be annoying for the Israelis.

Was there a reason for him going?

Did he just want to avoid the last scheduled week of QT?

Does he not trust Marlo to steer the ship?

Who is the blonde thing walking around with him? Is she from the ghetto too?

The Israel thing was a stunt question I think.
 
Was there a reason for him going?

Did he just want to avoid the last scheduled week of QT?

Does he not trust Marlo to steer the ship?

Who is the blonde thing walking around with him? Is she from the ghetto too?

The Israel thing was a stunt question I think.
It was planned months ago and it is important as he needs to get Congress over the line to get the submarines approved (which is not a given).
He was meant to address Congress but as there is no speaker he can no longer do it.
Biden is just for publicity.

Timing ended up being totally sh*t .
Maybe he should just go home and come back in a month. Too much egg on face though.
 
It was planned months ago and it is important as he needs to get Congress over the line to get the submarines approved (which is not a given).
He was meant to address Congress but as there is no speaker he can no longer do it.
Biden is just for publicity.

Timing ended up being totally sh*t .
Maybe he should just go home and come back in a month. Too much egg on face though.
Best he stays away for as long as possible, One moron less to have on the Idiot Box each night.
 
It was planned months ago and it is important as he needs to get Congress over the line to get the submarines approved (which is not a given).
He was meant to address Congress but as there is no speaker he can no longer do it.
Biden is just for publicity.

Timing ended up being totally sh*t .
Maybe he should just go home and come back in a month. Too much egg on face though.

I really can't remember a PM travelling OS so much. Are there any stats on how many countries he's been to since been elected? I guess about 20. Maybe that's normal for a first term PM.
 
I really can't remember a PM travelling OS so much. Are there any stats on how many countries he's been to since been elected? I guess about 20. Maybe that's normal for a first term PM.
TIMELINE

2023 | Albanese’s overseas summits, forums and formal meetings​

  • January 12-13​

    Annual Leaders' Dialogue, Papua New Guinea
    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in PNG for the Annual Leaders' Dialogue alongside PNG Prime Minister James Marape.
  • March 8-11​

    Australia-India Annual Leaders' Summit, India
    Albanese in New Delhi to attend the Australia-India Annual Leaders' Summit with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
  • March 11-14​

    AUKUS meeting, US
    Albanese flies to San Diego to reveal Australia's preferred nuclear submarine for AUKUS, alongside President Joe Biden and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
  • May 19-21​

    G7 summit, Japan
    Albanese participated in this year’s G7 summit (alongside leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and US), which focused on condemning Russia’s war on Ukraine and tackling China’s economic and military coercion.
  • May 20​

    Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, Japan
    Albanese meets with the other leaders of the Quad, US President Joe Biden, Japan's PM Fumio Kishida, and India's PM Narendra Modi for a meeting on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Hiroshima.
  • July 11-12​

    NATO summit, Lithuania
    This was the third time an Australia PM joined the trans-Atlantic alliance’s 31 leaders at the conference table, this time in Lithuania’s capital Vilnius.

    Asia-Pacific 4 meeting
    He also participated in a meeting on the sidelines with the leaders of NATO's other Asia-Pacific partners (AP4) from South Korea, Japan and New Zealand.
  • July 26-27​

    Australia New Zealand Leaders’ Meeting, New Zealand
    Albanese explores, with New Zealand PM Chris Hipkins, moves toward more "seamless travel" between the two nations to enhance closer trade, business and tourism links.
  • September 6-7​

    East Asia Summit, Indonesia
    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese meets with Chinese Premier Li Qiang on the sidelines of the East Asia Summit in Jakarta, which hosts 10 South-east Asian countries and eight partners, including China, Russia and the US.
  • September 6-7​

    ASEAN-Australia summit, Indonesia
    Albanese attended the third annual ASEAN-Australia Summit in Indonesia, which is about strengthening the partnership with ASEAN (and its 10 member countries from south-east Asia) to shape a secure and prosperous region.
  • September 8​

    Bilateral meeting with the Philippines
    Albanese arrives in Manila for the first bilateral visit to the Philippines since 2003 by an Australian prime minister. He discusses defence and security co-operation with President Bongbong Marcos.
  • September 9​

    G20 leaders' summit, India
    Albanese returns to India for the G20 summit New Delshi, and is welcomed by India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
  • Still to come | October 23-26​

    Official visit to the US, state dinner included, Washington DC.
  • November 6-12​

    The Pacific Islands Forum (PIF) in Rarotonga, Cook Islands.
  • November 11-17​

    The Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) in San Francisco.
  • November 30 to December 12​

    The UN Climate Change Conference (COP) in Dubai
  • Dates not announced​

    Official visit to China, to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping
 
A treaty is stronger and has more obligations than a partnership , which is itself stronger than a dialogue
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TIMELINE

2023 | Albanese’s overseas summits, forums and formal meetings​

  • January 12-13​

    Annual Leaders' Dialogue, Papua New Guinea
    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in PNG for the Annual Leaders' Dialogue alongside PNG Prime Minister James Marape.
  • March 8-11​

    Australia-India Annual Leaders' Summit, India
    Albanese in New Delhi to attend the Australia-India Annual Leaders' Summit with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
  • March 11-14​

    AUKUS meeting, US
    Albanese flies to San Diego to reveal Australia's preferred nuclear submarine for AUKUS, alongside President Joe Biden and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.
  • May 19-21​

    G7 summit, Japan
    Albanese participated in this year’s G7 summit (alongside leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and US), which focused on condemning Russia’s war on Ukraine and tackling China’s economic and military coercion.
  • May 20​

    Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, Japan
    Albanese meets with the other leaders of the Quad, US President Joe Biden, Japan's PM Fumio Kishida, and India's PM Narendra Modi for a meeting on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Hiroshima.
  • July 11-12​

    NATO summit, Lithuania
    This was the third time an Australia PM joined the trans-Atlantic alliance’s 31 leaders at the conference table, this time in Lithuania’s capital Vilnius.

    Asia-Pacific 4 meeting
    He also participated in a meeting on the sidelines with the leaders of NATO's other Asia-Pacific partners (AP4) from South Korea, Japan and New Zealand.
  • July 26-27​

    Australia New Zealand Leaders’ Meeting, New Zealand
    Albanese explores, with New Zealand PM Chris Hipkins, moves toward more "seamless travel" between the two nations to enhance closer trade, business and tourism links.
  • September 6-7​

    East Asia Summit, Indonesia
    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese meets with Chinese Premier Li Qiang on the sidelines of the East Asia Summit in Jakarta, which hosts 10 South-east Asian countries and eight partners, including China, Russia and the US.
  • September 6-7​

    ASEAN-Australia summit, Indonesia
    Albanese attended the third annual ASEAN-Australia Summit in Indonesia, which is about strengthening the partnership with ASEAN (and its 10 member countries from south-east Asia) to shape a secure and prosperous region.
  • September 8​

    Bilateral meeting with the Philippines
    Albanese arrives in Manila for the first bilateral visit to the Philippines since 2003 by an Australian prime minister. He discusses defence and security co-operation with President Bongbong Marcos.
  • September 9​

    G20 leaders' summit, India
    Albanese returns to India for the G20 summit New Delshi, and is welcomed by India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
  • Still to come | October 23-26​

    Official visit to the US, state dinner included, Washington DC.
  • November 6-12​

    The Pacific Islands Forum (PIF) in Rarotonga, Cook Islands.
  • November 11-17​

    The Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) in San Francisco.
  • November 30 to December 12​

    The UN Climate Change Conference (COP) in Dubai
  • Dates not announced​

    Official visit to China, to meet Chinese President Xi Jinping

Didn't he go to Tasmania too?
 
I really can't remember a PM travelling OS so much.
To be fair to Albo, I can't remember any PM since Hawke actually having a decent go at anything international.

If he can put the Voice issue behind him and move on then I won't be complaining about the cost of travel if he's getting things done or at least giving it a red hot go. :2twocents
 
To be fair to Albo, I can't remember any PM since Hawke actually having a decent go at anything international.

If he can put the Voice issue behind him and move on then I won't be complaining about the cost of travel if he's getting things done or at least giving it a red hot go. :2twocents

I agree to some extent.

I want a PM who is out there and representing the country. In our political system he is the face of the country. The GG and FM wouldn't be known by anyone outside our country except maybe the UK and NZ.

Wong is supposed to the equivalent of the Secretary of State doing the international thing and she's going very well. I like her. She's trying really hard to be diplomatic and will get an excellent job in international politics post Labor failure.

But, are you really happy with Albo being the face of the country? I cringe every time he slurs. Which is every word. An unfortunate speech impediment which obviously appeals to the Labor masses. But, I'd really prefer a powerful Aussie statesman out there selling our country. I can't remember a PM I'd want representing me. Has there been one other than maybe Hawke?
 
But, are you really happy with Albo being the face of the country?
As I see it, he's by no means perfect but he's the best option available.

Akin to employing the person who isn't at all perfect, but they're the best person who actually turned up to the interview so that's the one you pick then try and make it work.

My personal view he's the best since Hawke in that regard, with Howard being the only other who'd have at least been perceived as credible even though it wasn't his focus. :2twocents
 
Good God @Smurf1976, are we talking about the same person?

...but do concede there is a laughable scarcity of talent ATM, a bit like picking the only semi-literate Neanderthal out of a group of grunting troglodytes. :(
He is the duly elected Prime Minister (just) and he has to do the job of representing the country which he does well imo. I hadn't noticed any speech impediment.

In a changing world we need alliances. Once these are established the need for travel will reduce.
 
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