The Abbott Government

[sydboy007]

I just don't understand why conservative political parties are always so worried about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

I also don't know why they seem to think they are the shinning light and example all should follow. They're the same in every western country really. Always have that religous bent to their thinking and seem to want to impose their moralistic views on the rest of the population.

I mean, between slipper at one extreme and corgi at the other, the Coalition really knows how to pick their senators.

 

[sptrawler]

I just don't understand why conservative political parties are always so worried about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

I also don't know why they seem to think they are the shinning light and example all should follow. They're the same in every western country really. Always have that religous bent to their thinking and seem to want to impose their moralistic views on the rest of the population.

I mean, between slipper at one extreme and corgi at the other, the Coalition really knows how to pick their senators.

I haven't followed the macro management of the Government, as yet.
However the influx of taxi drivers has reduced.
I'm still yet to make a decission on their monetary policy.

 

[Julia]

I just don't understand why conservative political parties are always so worried about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

Why are you taking the silly comments of one senator and conflating these with the view of the whole party?
Mr Abbott has said that Senator Bernardi's comments do not represent party policy.
You just seem to grasp at any opportunity to misrepresent the Coalition.

 

[drsmith]

I just don't understand why conservative political parties are always so worried about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

Is Cory Bernardi the new political anti-Christ of the Left ?

I thought that was Malcolm Turnbull.

In any case, just because Labor formally married the Greens after the 2010 election, it doesn't mean people can't do what they like in the privacy of their own bedrooms when they're not married.

EDIT:

Why are you taking the silly comments of one senator and conflating these with the view of the whole party?
Mr Abbott has said that Senator Bernardi's comments do not represent party policy.
You just seem to grasp at any opportunity to misrepresent the Coalition.

You took the words right out of my post.

 

[sydboy007]

Why are you taking the silly comments of one senator and conflating these with the view of the whole party?
Mr Abbott has said that Senator Bernardi's comments do not represent party policy.
You just seem to grasp at any opportunity to misrepresent the Coalition.

I prefer Warren Entschs' reprimand to Tony's limp cellary one.

Corgi may not represent party policy, but does he represent Tony's views?

Quite often 1 member of the ALP is used to make representations about the entire ALP party. Just have to see the comments on here about Thomson.

 

[sptrawler]

I prefer Warren Entschs' reprimand to Tony's limp cellary one.

Corgi may not represent party policy, but does he represent Tony's views?

Quite often 1 member of the ALP is used to make representations about the entire ALP party. Just have to see the comments on here about Thomson.

That is probably because Labor reps come through the union ranks.
Maybe you should try applying for Labor preselection.
Then you could post on how it went.

 

[wayneL]

I just don't understand why conservative political parties are always so worried about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

I also don't know why they seem to think they are the shinning light and example all should follow. They're the same in every western country really. Always have that religous bent to their thinking and seem to want to impose their moralistic views on the rest of the population.

I mean, between slipper at one extreme and corgi at the other, the Coalition really knows how to pick their senators.

That may or may not be true Syd. But I don't think the majority of Liberal parliamentarians are of the religious right at all.

But aren't you being a tad hypocritical? Maybe monumentally, stupendously, gargantuanly hypocritical? The left have always attempted, with varying degrees of success, to be social engineers; to manipulate and sometimes legislate people's very thinking. They have always indulged in 'we know what's good for you better than you' nanny stateism, vis a vis "seem to want to impose their moralistic views on the rest of the population".

So come on Syd, we all know Cori does not represent Liberal policy. I think you would find the majority of Liberals would be horrified.

 

[sydboy007]

That may or may not be true Syd. But I don't think the majority of Liberal parliamentarians are of the religious right at all.

But aren't you being a tad hypocritical? Maybe monumentally, stupendously, gargantuanly hypocritical? The left have always attempted, with varying degrees of success, to be social engineers; to manipulate and sometimes legislate people's very thinking. They have always indulged in 'we know what's good for you better than you' nanny stateism, vis a vis "seem to want to impose their moralistic views on the rest of the population".

So come on Syd, we all know Cori does not represent Liberal policy. I think you would find the majority of Liberals would be horrified.

Wont disagree with you on the left Wayne, but the right are just as much trying to control us as well. It just always seems to be members of right leaning parties that sprout this kind of nonsense. It's all single parents fault, and just the hypocrisy of saying a woman should not have an abortion, but then also criticising programs that help these same people raise their children by saying you don't want to encourage them being dependant on the state.

It's just the conservatives always coat their social engineering under terms like family values. You have to admit the enlargement of FTB occurred under a Liberal Government with a PM who thought stay at home mothers was the right way for a family, or our current PM who thinks taxing big business to fund PPL is the right way forward. If that's not expensive nanny stateism, then what is?

I'd have more confidence in the Liberal party if a few more of them had actually come out and gave Corgi a good serving, but the silence is worrying. At least another Senator has come out publicly against his statements - Sue Boyce. I'd feel happier if some of them actually came out in support of separating politics and religion.

When people like Pyne lament that in the USA you can't elected if you don't talk about God, while in Australia you can't get elected if you do, and you add in Corgis' feeling that we're in a sorry state because there's not enough religion in our politics, I worry how many more of their party room members are thinking the same thing? You have to admit the Christian right is a very powerful faction within the Liberal party.

 

[Logique]

i don't think this medicare $5 doctor visit fee is a good thing to start. It leads other governments to jack up the price, and before we know it, its $20 upfront per visit...

Correct. Does anyone really believe it will remain at $5? It's already gone to $6 while we've been talking about.

They're just undermining Medicare. Alternatively, it may be thought of as the Paid Maternity Leave Tax. From the No Surprises Government.

And we thought the previous government was redistributive!

 

[medicowallet]

At it again like 2 ex lovers going in for some old times sake. Love it. Fact is howard cut income tax too far overstimulating the housing bubble and decreasing givt rev on the back of a questionable income stream and rudd and gillard were 2 of the worst economic managers in the history of this country. Couple that with a very hostile opposition and senate and the overwhelming greens and labor influence in the msm and also the mentality to just increase tax after levy after tax on so called high income earners as the sokution to all our problems. We are in a bad way

 

[medicowallet]

Correct. Does anyone really believe it will remain at $5? It's already gone to $6 while we've been talking about.

They're just undermining Medicare. Alternatively, it may be thought of as the Paid Maternity Leave Tax. From the No Surprises Government.

And we thought the previous government was redistributive!

I think this levy is a great idea. I think generic discounts for pharmacies need to be axed too and gps must prescribe generics.

This rubbish going around about scrapping the private health rebate instead is more socialist policy. This country needs to incentivise productivity instead of befoming a massive welfare state on the back of borrowings. The situation that labor is egging for is financially and socially destructive.

 

[drsmith]

Bill Shorten wants to know what's happening on our borders,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-10/abbott-likens-campaign-against-people-smugglers-to-war/5193546

No boats over the past week or for the past three weeks for that matter,

http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/OperationalUpdate10January2014.pdf

He claims we don't know what the Prime Minister is doing.

Stopping the boats Labor started.

He also asks if the PM has any control over the situation at all.

See above Bill.

 

[dutchie]

Bill Shorten wants to know what's happening on our borders,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-10/abbott-likens-campaign-against-people-smugglers-to-war/5193546

No boats over the past week or for the past three weeks for that matter,

http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/OperationalUpdate10January2014.pdf

He claims we don't know what the Prime Minister is doing.

Stopping the boats Labor started.

He also asks if the PM has any control over the situation at all.

See above Bill.

Bill, labor and the Greens are showing the electorate that they still have not got a clue..... (idiots)

 

[IFocus]

You really have to wonder about Pine

Heard him on ABC radio and he just sounded dreadful.

Teachers warn of 'culture wars' as Christopher Pyne announces back-to-basics curriculum review

He has asked two critics of the current curriculum - former teacher and ex-Liberal Party staffer Kevin Donnelly, and University of Queensland Professor Ken Wiltshire - to review what is taught in Australian schools.

"I'm not going to prejudge the outcome of the national curriculum [review], suffice to say there has been criticism of the national curriculum over a lengthy period of time," Mr Pyne told reporters in Adelaide.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-...rriculum-to-focus-on-benefits-of-west/5193804

I am not sure middle Australia are going to wear a full blown class / culture / religious war. In fact I think Abbott will face an increasingly hostile senate as a result.

 

[sydboy007]

Anyone think Tony is going to refer Alex Somlyay to the AFP to investigate paying his wife for services most likely not rendered?

The ATO frowns upon this kind of setup for the rest of us, so why are the politicians allowed to do it?

Tony, please apply the Slipper principle for a change.

 

[drsmith]

Bill, labor and the Greens are showing the electorate that they still have not got a clue..... (idiots)

A short video that helps Bill with the answers.

 

[sptrawler]

Anyone think Tony is going to refer Alex Somlyay to the AFP to investigate paying his wife for services most likely not rendered?

The ATO frowns upon this kind of setup for the rest of us, so why are the politicians allowed to do it?

Tony, please apply the Slipper principle for a change.

If the ATO finds the persons actions illegal, he will be prosecuted, as was Thomson.

Anyone going to take Shorten to task for stupid comments, re keeping Holden going?

Anyone going to hold Labor responsible, for irresponsible border protection policy, or lack thereof?

 

[sydboy007]

If the ATO finds the persons actions illegal, he will be prosecuted, as was Thomson.

Seems the matter has been referred to the AFP now so will be interesting to see if they dodge it or investigate. It seems to have similarities with the Slipper case in that Somlyay tried to hide the payments to his wife by using her maiden name.

Anyone going to take Shorten to task for stupid comments, re keeping Holden going?

I thought when the Coalition was in opposition it was Ok to say silly things, like oh, Abbott saying BHP decided not to go ahead with the Olympic Dam expansion due to the carbon price, or the pensioner who's electricity bill had doubled due to the carbon price, or Joe Hockey claiming QLD electricity prices were up 22% due to the carbon price. Considering the carbon price adds around 10% to an electricity bill can you explain how someone's maths could be so bad to think a 22% or 100% increase could be due to something that causes a 10% increase

Anyone going to hold Labor responsible, for irresponsible border protection policy, or lack thereof?

They've been held accountable for it, though the harsher stance they'd taken before the election seemed to have been starting to work by the election.

 

[sptrawler]

I thought when the Coalition was in opposition it was Ok to say silly things, like oh, Abbott saying BHP decided not to go ahead with the Olympic Dam expansion due to the carbon price, or the pensioner who's electricity bill had doubled due to the carbon price, or Joe Hockey claiming QLD electricity prices were up 22% due to the carbon price. Considering the carbon price adds around 10% to an electricity bill can you explain how someone's maths could be so bad to think a 22% or 100% increase could be due to something that causes a 10% increase

The point wasn't about Shortens stupid comments, just the lack of coverage and critiquing by the press.
When Abbott was in opposition every opportunity was jumped on by Fairfax and the ABC, they don't seem to have the same lust to get into Bill..

They've been held accountable for it, though the harsher stance they'd taken before the election seemed to have been starting to work by the election.

Oh you mean the total backflip policy, hastily patched together six weeks before the election.
Trying to convince the public that they really didn't want as many flooding into the country, unbelievably dumb Government,

 

[bunyip]

Illegal boat arrivals down 80% since the Abbot government came to power, no new boat arrivals in the last three weeks. A stark contrast to the thousands of illegal boat people every month under Labor.
It must be so galling for the opposition and their supporters to realize that the government is going so well in their objective to stop the boats.
Poor old Shorten hardly ever criticizes the government any more over the boat people issue, except to wrongly say that they’re keeping people in the dark. It’s pretty obvious that poor Bill grudgingly admires the government for achieving such impressibe results. So much so in fact, that he's now trying to give the credit to Labor for the drastic reduction in illegal boat numbers! LOL