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The Abbott Government


While I don't think a co-payment is a bad thing, I'm not sure how many people get bulk billed these days? Certainly I'v not been to a doctor that does for over a decade.

As for private health care saving the public system, I'm not convinced that it's money well spent. Was reading an article a year or two ago that was looking at how the private hospitals tend to over service. An example they used was for heart stents. There's 2 types. In the public system they used the cheaper version in around 90% of patients and the more expensive ones for the remainder who it was determined had a medical requirement for them. Cost was $8K versus $20K. In the private hospitals it was something like 70 to 80% of patients had the more expensive stents used, even though there wasn't much of a greater medical need for them.

If private hospitals can perform the various surgeries at the same cost or cheaper than the public system, then it's a good thing to have the competition, but if the cost of the private system combined with PHI means it's a more expensive system, then we might be better off increasing the medicare levy and putting extra funds into the cheaper system.

Now lets hope Abbott isn't stoopid enough to sign the TPP because from what I've read it's nearly guaranteed to cause a blow-out in pharmaceutical costs. Just what we need with a massive increase in over 65s and giving the green light to big pharma to evergreen their patents and keep the cost of drugs sky high.
 
I read somewhere that the number of knee operations in an area is only directly proportional to the number of orthopoedic surgeons in that area.

Not to the number of knackered knees, football teams, or professions at danger of getting knackered knees such as priests.

So some means of holding down access to unnecessary treatments or tests may be justified.

Some people are sick a lot. Others not. Some just feel they are sick and free access may be counter-intuitive for them.

$5 is not much, it's about 7 cigarettes.

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Its gonna get worse without as many high paid auto workers to contribute taxes....

I'm not sure of the exact figures but I think the taxpayer is funding more than the auto workers would pay in tax. If so, how can it get worse?
 
I'm not sure of the exact figures but I think the taxpayer is funding more than the auto workers would pay in tax. If so, how can it get worse?

Nah Sails, more of a tongue in cheek comment...the point is that its a liberal government now, less socialist, more user pays type of thing...which i think is good. Australia was always a nice mix somewhere between the US and Canada, clearly they con't continue to spend like the Labor government did....
 

Imagine if they'd tried to keep spending like the previous Coalition Govt.

Labors' main fault was allowing treasury to be too optimistic on the revenue side. Whether they applied pressure on Treasury to pump up the forecasts I don't know. TBH pretty stupid if they did.

1% of GDP is worth a cool $16B so getting an extra 2% of revenue certainly makes balancing the budget easier. I'd say the issue is as much the gutting of revenue as over spending.

There's plenty of middle class welfare that can be pared back over a few years, but I don't see Abbott as having the ticker for it. Too many years on the populist route in opposition and with all the quotes he's provided over the years Labor will have a field day with anything too harsh.

I'm expecting the Coalition will target the poor and sections of the community that lack the organisation to mount an effective campaign against any proposed cuts.
 

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i don't think this medicare $5 doctor visit fee is a good thing to start. It leads other governments to jack up the price, and before we know it, its $20 upfront per visit...
 

Isn't costing the government less though? The number of people who have dropped out is fairly low, 300,000 out of 9-10 million. Which was my point, why subsidise something that people are going to use anyway.

Re the $5 charge, I'd prefer the cuts to spending to come from elsewhere.
 
But McL, even on your figures that's 300k/9,500k = 3.1%, when the latest premium increase is 6.2%. And public health is effectively a subsidy too (if you can access it through the throng).

 
Religion and politics are never a good mix.

It's where Cory Bernardi is coming from with his views that worries me the most.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...in-controversial-new-book-20140106-30cob.html
 
Religion and politics are never a good mix.

It's where Cory Bernardi is coming from with his views that worries me the most.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...in-controversial-new-book-20140106-30cob.html

Maybe he looks at the Muslim countries and wishes the Catholic church could go back to the good old days when it WAS the Government?

Will be very interesting to see what Abbott says. So far the silence is deafening. A few days of this and one has to consider at least tacit support for Bernardis' views.

Anyone know if he was wearing a blue tie at the time of his rant?
 
As a small business owner, I'm worried about how the new budget is going to effect my businesses. My accountant sent me this videoupdate.me/on-the-money/generic/ video (not too big on the accountant speak but now I have a say when we meet up).
Pretty clever way my accountant lets me know whats going on. Eitherway, fingers crossed for the new budget. Wouldn't mind a few worry-free years.
 
Religion and politics are never a good mix.

It's where Cory Bernardi is coming from with his views that worries me the most.



http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...in-controversial-new-book-20140106-30cob.html

Cory Bernardi is a grade-A moron. How a dimwit like that ended up in the senate is unbelievable. Time for some senate reform; if he's getting a seat then there's too many seats.

The Libs need to shut him down, because whatever he may think, his views are at the extreme end of even US Bible belt politics.
 
At least Warren Entsch has had the cajones to stand up and give Corgi a serving.

Abbots' effort so far of saying Corgi doesn't represent the position of the Government reminds me of 'Allo 'Allo where the Nazi offices had something for limp celery.

Hey Tony, does Corgi represent your position?

If Corgi is truly representative of Liberal values in this country then Canberra, we have a problem.
 
The Amazon reviews of Corey 's book are beyond measure. priceless in fact!!!

I just have to share one of the 5 star reviews. TFM !!

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3LUZ9WFROKUPN/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R3LUZ9WFROKUPN
 
This one was on top when I looked.. clever, and apt LOL

FFS this guy belongs with Pauline Hanson's mob.... astonishingly politically stupid.

 
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