So_Cynical
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Tony Abbott said:
That's a hell of a thing to say...i mean saying it with any real conviction, and not feeling like a bit of a dill saying it.
Tony Abbott said:"We are going to keep the promise that we actually made, not the promise that some people thought that we made, or the promise that some people might have liked us to make."
As much as you hope it will be the case, the Coalition won't be judged by the detail of a plan from Opposition. Labor wasn't.
On this issue, the judgement will primarily be one of how well their rollout is progressing at the time of the next election relative to Labor's at the last one.
That's a hell of a thing to say...i mean saying it with any real conviction, and not feeling like a bit of a dill saying it.
That's a hell of a thing to say...i mean saying it with any real conviction, and not feeling like a bit of a dill saying it.
IN politics, trust is hard to earn but easy to lose. The decision by the Abbott government to abandon its commitment to implement Labor's school funding regime has shattered voter confidence.
Abbott and Pyne are treating voters as if they are mugs. The difference between what they told voters before the election and what they are saying now could not be more different. The voters have been betrayed.
Worse, they claim that Bill Shorten, when he was education minister, cut funding by $1.2 billion. This funding was cut because Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory did not sign up to the reforms to claim the money.
This is dangerous territory for a new government. Abbott has undermined one of his core commitments to voters: to be a government of "no surprises" and to restore "trust" in the political process.
Labor now sees an opportunity to expose this multi-faceted hypocrisy.
But the Opposition Leader knows he can't say the voters got it "wrong" when they voted Labor out of power. So the opposition has settled on the formulation that "voters did not get the government they voted for".
Labor, however, doesn't need to lead the attack on the Coalition for breaking its promise to voters on school funding; it has the conservative state governments to do the job for it.
A really interesting series of questions for the next News Poll/Nielson Poll would be along the lines of questioning what voters understood by Tonys promises to support the Gonski report and the commitment to each schools funding.
Couple that with a question about trust and it would be a very uncomfortable poll for the Government.
Tony Abbott is addressing the media with his frontbench colleague, Education Minister Christopher Pyne.
Pyne has been speaking to states that did not sign up to the so-called Gonski reforms before the election (i.e. WA, NT and Queensland), the PM says.
The Education Minister has "secured" in-principal funding agreements with WA, NT and Queensland which makes for a "fair and national" system.
Therefore, the Coalition will also put the $1.2 billion* that it says Labor "ripped" out of the schools funding before the election back into the education envelope.
"I think the Prime Minister has summed it up well," says Pyne.
*This was money that Labor had put aside for WA, NT and Queensland for a Gonski deal.
That's the ABC I assume.Now they've cut away from question time back to the studio to mount arguments in support of Labor's position.
Now they've cut away from question time back to the studio to mount arguments in support of Labor's position.
The ABC's view on today's QT,I'm enjoying watching Tony and the team rip Labor apart, poor old Shorten is underachieving at his very best
The government clearly outwitted Bill Shorten and the Opposition in QT today, but overall it still would have been better had they not created the problem for themselves in the first place.The Government's about-face appears to have caught the Labor Party flat-footed, effectively neutralising its attack which was primed for today's parliamentary Question Time.
The Opposition asked no less than eight questions of the Prime Minister, based on the Government's previous stance that it would not abide by the funding deal.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten rounded off the series of questions by asking "when will the Prime Minister stop lying?" - a phrase he was forced to withdraw.
The questions gave the Prime Minister the opportunity to criticise Labor over its failure to secure a national agreement on schools funding while in government.
"I want to make it absolutely crystal clear that this Government is cleaning up Labor's mess," Mr Abbott said.
Mr Shorten then moved the new parliament's first motion of censure in the Prime Minister, "for breaking his promise to parents and children across Australia that no school will be worse off under his Government".
But the Government used its numbers to instead censure the Opposition Leader for cutting funding to the hold-out states and "failing to achieve a national, fair and needs-based school funding mode".
The $15.2 billion Better Schools Plan was based on recommendations made by a review panel which was chaired by businessman David Gonski.
Sixty-five per cent of the additional money was slated to come from federal coffers with the rest contributed by states and territories.
Indeed ! I am thinking the rough end of the pineapple will be applied. The media is making the most of the "Gonski" shambles that Pyne has inherited from Shorten. 1.2 billion taken away from the states and territories schools that had not signed up for their snouts in the trough (read saving?) and then Pyne to come out and say he thought the money would materialise from Treasury? WTF ??? Did he not understand the PEFO and why did Shorten call it a "saving" ??
"Last edited by wayneL; Yesterday at 06:35 PM. Reason: add, cause I was on my phone, waiting for missus to try on a dress."
WayneL, you're a braver man than me... trolling the internet on a Sunday arvo out with your missus, even under some difficulty on a mobile phone, than just relaxing for a bit and paying attention to her and her new dress!!!
It might have been better to put the impulses aside... to 'ignore' and just gather your thoughts for a more considered response on a better equipped PC, in due course.
It would also be wise to not rely on those 'stiff-upper-lip' BLOG sites for the meaning of language (or interpretation of the economy, national security or legal points). Language is and always has been a transitional thing, where words and phrases often mean different things to different people depending on their culture, profession/trade etc.
But as I said originally, I know what I meant, but I'm happy for you to go with your interpretation if you must.
But for me a standard dictionary definition is...
1reign
noun \ˈrān\
: the period of time during which a king, queen, emperor, etc., is ruler of a country
: the period of time during which someone is in charge of a group or organization
: the period of time during which someone or something is the best or the most important, powerful, etc.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reign
Also, you know what they say when you let your emotions run away... your "overriding feeling is elation" that Abbott took over from Labor. It would appear from the polls that a substantial chunk of the electorate lost that feeling of elation some time ago, or was it just qualified support for the best of a bad bunch.
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