I guess Abbott must be doing something right to have his ratings lifted.
It probably will not make the lefties too happy.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ndslide-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226748573374
What's most encouraging about this government it that it is quietly and systematically building the foundations on how it will run the country
largely undistracted from the day to day media cycle.
Other results will come with time and it is from there we can pass broader judgement.
What's most encouraging about this government it that it is quietly and systematically building the foundations on how it will run the country largely undistracted from the day to day media cycle.
This is a pleasant change from the chaos of Labor in government and on the area of border protection is already delivering fruit. Other results will come with time and it is from there we can pass broader judgement.
What's most encouraging about this government it that it is quietly and systematically building the foundations on how it will run the country largely undistracted from the day to day media cycle.
This is a pleasant change from the chaos of Labor in government and on the area of border protection is already delivering fruit. Other results will come with time and it is from there we can pass broader judgement.
I agree with you, drsmith, its been wonderful not seeing them in the media every five minutes and just getting on with the job, so refreshing.
Now, just to give ABC and SBS a shake up.
Been there and done that noco... back at post 800 and my analysis at 815.
Although it's only one poll, the fact that it's the same pattern, Labor continues to loose more support than Abbott gains, 2.3 points to 1.4 respectively, for me it spells another labor leadership spill sooner than later. The other number that suggests there will be a grass root Labor revolt is evident in the preferred PM numbers. Shorten got 28%.
Even if you give Shorten a more longer term split of the undecided (25%) along party lines, say half the undecided, 12.5%... guess what, you have about 40%. That's the same number of Labor membership that supported him in the leadership poll. That's a clear enough evidentiary trend for me.
But as it stands at the moment, Abbott has nothing to fear from Labor led by Shorten, and the Aus public and grass root labor might just gain the abolition of the carbon tax before dispensing with him. That would be a significant first step in natural justice for the embattled voting public.
It's amazing how two (or more) people can look at the same data and see different things.
To feel reassured that Abbott has "his ratings lifted"... is hardly endorsement that "Abbott must be doing something right". From the data pre and continuing trend post election, it's more likely endorsement of the best of a bad bunch... hoping he'd do something right.
While it's clear that Shorten is not going to be a serious threat, it is also evident that Abbott isn't picking up any greater share of the support Labor is loosing... ie the greens and others are stable to slightly revived. That ought to be a concern to Abbott. I'm sure it is and is why he's planning to do quite a build up for the spin to break election promises.
As far as "Abbott must be doing something right"... the abolition of the carbon tax and the vague but 'good' appeal of his slogans to cut the waste and fix the economic crisis hits a pleasant chord with most people. The problem he has is in exposing the detail of that without offending peoples general perception of how he intended to achieve it. That is likely to be his Achilles' heel.
That's when the real test of his personal approval rating, as opposed to preferred PM, will be critical. That would be a typical cue for the PUP to do a bit of grand standing for further support and typically when Rudd or his support base would make their move on the Labor leadership.
Don't forget the expenses rorts and electoral ballot reform are big voter issues, a double edge sword for Abbott, still festering awaiting action.
But apart from the expenses "RORT", which you well know has taken palce on both sides of politics and of which the lefties want to keep stirring, what has Abbott done wrong in your eyes?
Give the man a break...he has only been in office for about 52 days....what are you expecting FGS?
I have no idea if those currently searching through the data have been biased to looking at the conservative side of politics, but if Labor are the huge rorters most in ASF believe then surely you wont need to spend much time to root some out and expose them just as senior members of the current Govt have been.
And while your "Electricity Bill" Shorten may may rave on about Abbott's shortcomings on rort control, Abbott's credibility in morals and ethics leaves Shorten's credibility in the gutter.
That wasn't a good day for TA and I suspect some very basic homework wasn't done by the Libs on that one.Oh irony of Abbott naming Shorten the Electricity Bill when Abbott himself mislead parliament about an electricity bill. Abbott and credibility are two words that don't align, the man is a snake in the grass.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-suffers-bill-shock-20121010-27dkg.html.
As for Bill shorten trustworthiness, there's absolutely no doubt. Just ask two former Labor PM's, one of which is till lurking in the depths of the Labor bunker plotting his moment of revenge.
That wasn't a good day for TA and I suspect some very basic homework wasn't done by the Libs on that one.
As for Bill shorten trustworthiness, there's absolutely no doubt. Just ask two former Labor PM's, one of which is till lurking in the depths of the Labor bunker plotting his moment of revenge.
If overhung is looking for a snake-in-the-grass, he need look no further than his dear leader.
The nerve of Labor to do a dodgy deal with the Greens and independents to introduce the carbon tax it said it wouldn't in the 2010 campaign is what the electorate will remember most when it comes to Labor. The electricity Bill tag will stick if he opposes the Coalition's repeal of the carbon tax and he knows it hence Labor's current wavering on this specific issue.If we are digging up old interviews there are certainly many more that show Abbott's incompetence when he is put on the spot. How about the interview with Leigh Sales where Abbott claimed the mining and carbon tax were responsible for BHP canning the upgrade to the Olympic Dam, yet when questioned on why the BHP report stated different reasons Abbott was left red faced admitting to not reading the report. He then lied about this the next day.
You may very well be right and Shorten too may be incompetent but he has a long way to go to reach Abbott levels.
And the nerve of the man to give the nick name electricity bill when he has in own embarrassing slip up regarding the subject, the man is nothing but a dodgy car salesman disguised as our PM.
"intelligent conversation"?
Sorry overhang, but I follow the old adage known as "Fools' Law".
"Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience".
The nerve of Labor to do a dodgy deal with the Greens and independents to introduce the carbon tax it said it wouldn't in the 2010 campaign is what the electorate will remember most when it comes to electricity Bill if he sticks by the carbon tax and he knows it hence Labor's current wavering on this specific issue.
Bill Shorten will never be PM. Regardless of how you wish to rate him, there's just too much baggage. Unlike Tony Abbott, he's genuinely unelectable.
I'll also make the point that opposition is about making noise and government is about governing.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?