The Abbott Government

[banco]

Of course political donations don't influence politicians That's why companies give them (to compound their lack of influence over politicians).

 

[noco]

Yes, plus the fact that our government would sign anything to keep the Nationals on side by getting a few deals for a few farmers, while the rest of our economy gets swamped with foreign goods.

Oh come on Rumpy....Have you even read the agreements?....The Green/Labor left wing socialist sat on their hands and did nothing and most likely did not have the intelligence and know how to be able to do it.

 

[explod]

..
and most likely did not have the intelligence and know how to be able to do it.

Dear ole noco, the smartest one of all.

Where are the jobs coming from?

 

[noco]

Dear ole noco, the smartest one of all.

Where are the jobs coming from?

explod, once again, sarcasm is the lowest from of wit from the uneducated.

Jobs have been created by Liberal governments and Labor and their union masters destroy them....check out Victoria ...7000 jobs will be lost on the East/West link.

I am waiting for the Queensland Labor government to kill of the Adami Coal project...Their Green comrades will dictate terms there and thousands more jobs will be lost.

Perhaps you should do some more research before making such statements.

 

[explod]

explod, once again, sarcasm is the lowest from of wit from the uneducated.

Jobs have been created by Liberal governments and Labor and their union masters destroy them....check out Victoria ...7000 jobs will be lost on the East/West link.

I am waiting for the Queensland Labor government to kill of the Adami Coal project...Their Green comrades will dictate terms there and thousands more jobs will be lost.

Perhaps you should do some more research before making such statements.

And empty vessel's make the most noise.

You blah blah on and offer no constructive content. You could at least tell us where the jobs are coming from.

And calling those who see life differently to you you call "unintelligent". That is a statement of defamation. Could you explain how I am unintelligent.

East west link was ill concieved, overpriced and of no benefit to Melbourne traffic. It was to feed into already over taxed Tullamarine freeway, the Westgate freeway and thereby backing up and further choking the Monash Freeway. In peak ours Melbourne is almost allways in gridlock. We need a connection with the western ring road with east link to take through traffic right away from the city. In my dumb uneducated way I have had a lot of hands on experience in forward planning demographics of Metropolitan Melbourne. Have a good look at a map of Melbourne and then tell me I am wrong.

And these jobs are merely temporary for the life of fhe project. We need permanent jobs that will contribute to the wealth our community.

 

[noco]

And empty vessel's make the most noise.

You blah blah on and offer no constructive content. You could at least tell us where the jobs are coming from.

And calling those who see life differently to you you call "unintelligent". That is a statement of defamation. Could you explain how I am unintelligent.

East west link was ill concieved, overpriced and of no benefit to Melbourne traffic. It was to feed into already over taxed Tullamarine freeway, the Westgate freeway and thereby backing up and further choking the Monash Freeway. In peak ours Melbourne is almost allways in gridlock. We need a connection with the western ring road with east link to take through traffic right away from the city. In my dumb uneducated way I have had a lot of hands on experience in forward planning demographics of Metropolitan Melbourne. Have a good look at a map of Melbourne and then tell me I am wrong.

And these jobs are merely temporary for the life of fhe project. We need permanent jobs that will contribute to the wealth our community.

What ever you say explod...You are the one smart cookie. ....Perhaps you could tell me how the Green/Labor Party would do it.......borrow more money .....what do you think?

 

[sptrawler]

And empty vessel's make the most noise.

You blah blah on and offer no constructive content. You could at least tell us where the jobs are coming from.

And calling those who see life differently to you you call "unintelligent". That is a statement of defamation. Could you explain how I am unintelligent.

East west link was ill concieved, overpriced and of no benefit to Melbourne traffic. It was to feed into already over taxed Tullamarine freeway, the Westgate freeway and thereby backing up and further choking the Monash Freeway. In peak ours Melbourne is almost allways in gridlock. We need a connection with the western ring road with east link to take through traffic right away from the city. In my dumb uneducated way I have had a lot of hands on experience in forward planning demographics of Metropolitan Melbourne. Have a good look at a map of Melbourne and then tell me I am wrong.

And these jobs are merely temporary for the life of fhe project. We need permanent jobs that will contribute to the wealth our community.

That is the question everyone from all sides of politics are asking.


Where are the jobs going to come from? We have relatively high labour costs, we now have relatively high energy costs, we have a small population therefore a small market place.

We have a generous welfare system, and until recently we encouraged people to come on over and enjoy it. That obviously isn't the root cause of the issue, but shows the issue wasn't being addressed.

We have to tax harder, to have any chance of meeting, or maintaining our welfare obligations, we just have to decide who we tax.

You can tax workers more, but in the end that leads to increased wages to support it, then the worker becomes less competitive and jobs are lost.

You can tax companies more, they look elsewhere to do business, i.e NZ company tax rate 22%.

You can tax resources, they reduce exploration, banks refuse to lend money to start ups.
Big companies swing their capital expenditure away to low taxed areas.

That leaves the small person, can't use creative accounting, don't have access to overseas bank accounts.

Hit super, bring back death duties. Not looking good for the next generation IMO
Or this generation of retirees, unless you are one of the 5000 that have squillions in super.

We could always take the Greens stance, and say we will survive on tourism.
The problem with that is Venice, an Island smaller than Phillip Island has 20million tourists a year, they still have money problems.
We have 8 million tourists a year, and somehow people think that will cover some of our costs? Absolutely amazing.

 

[dutchie]

Good to see Joe suing Fairfax. Hope he gets a motza.

Next it will be Tony suing ABC for being so prejudice.

 

[Ferret]

Good to see Joe suing Fairfax. Hope he gets a motza.

I'm surprised that he has the time to spend days in court. Shouldn't he be concentrating on his duties as Treasurer?

 

[sptrawler]

I'm surprised that he has the time to spend days in court. Shouldn't he be concentrating on his duties as Treasurer?

Why bother with that, Lambie, Palmer and Labor, are undermining all of that stuff.
May as well take Fairfax to court for talking $hit, they don't have parliamentary priviledge.

I think the coming six months, are going to be excellent, some hard lessons will be learnt.

 

[Knobby22]

Good to see Costello step in on the super debate.
Listen Joe Hockey....listen.

Also listen to David Murray. Come on and I know you are ideologically blinkered but if you listen to these guys you can bring down a good budget. They are not considered left wing, they are talking sense. Stop thinking that you have any idea what you are doing and listen to the experts.

 

[drsmith]

Good to see Costello step in on the super debate.
Listen Joe Hockey....listen.

Also listen to David Murray. Come on and I know you are ideologically blinkered but if you listen to these guys you can bring down a good budget. They are not considered left wing, they are talking sense. Stop thinking that you have any idea what you are doing and listen to the experts.

It was interesting that Peter Costello also highlighted the difficulty of trying to make tax on super progressive in a reflection on his surcharge and how changes outside of super (income tax rates) impact on the calculated concessions. The simplest answer with concessions I'd suggest is to review the limits under which concessional contributions can be applied.

Having listened to the discussion re-first home buyers over the past few days I'd suggest this was one of those ideas that was just thrown out there for debate and it looks increasingly like it will be a short debate. That being said, the appearance left is one of a government still not in control of the economic agenda.

 

[drsmith]

On another topic, I note the commentary on remote communities.

The stats from WA as provided by the ABC are as follows,

Remote communities at a glance:

•There are 274 remote communities in Western Australia and 12,113 Aboriginal people live in them

•507 people live in 115 of the smallest communities - an average of 4.4 people per community

•Premier Colin Barnett flagged the closure of up to 150 communities but has not named them

•The last community to shut down was in 2011, when Oombulgurri in the East Kimberley was shut down after a host of social problems

•The cost of providing power and water to communities is approximately $85,000 per person per year

•The state and federal governments contributed $30 million per year to fund services, but the Commonwealth will cease its funding contribution in two years

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-11/abbott-defends-indigenous-communities-lifestyle-choice/6300218

 

[Knobby22]

An interesting problem and some action is required. Howard would have made a case of it and explained why he thought it had to be done. Tony just want to use a one liner...and a poor one at that.
I am with Noel Pearson on this...

Indigenous leader Noel Pearson told the ABC remote Indigenous communities deserved an "extensive" explanation and not "off-the-cuff" comments.

 

[sptrawler]

An interesting problem and some action is required. Howard would have made a case of it and explained why he thought it had to be done. Tony just want to use a one liner...and a poor one at that.
I am with Noel Pearson on this...

Indigenous leader Noel Pearson told the ABC remote Indigenous communities deserved an "extensive" explanation and not "off-the-cuff" comments.

If emotions can be kept out of it, I'm sure a compromise will be found.
But having said that, there is no way the media will keep emotions out of it.

I'm looking forward to seeing what we are discussing in 12 months time, our fiscal situation will be much clearer by then.

 

[banco]

If emotions can be kept out of it, I'm sure a compromise will be found.
But having said that, there is no way the media will keep emotions out of it.

I'm looking forward to seeing what we are discussing in 12 months time, our fiscal situation will be much clearer by then.

I am broadly supportive of the idea of shutting down the less viable remote communities but to tell people who live there (or know people who do) not to get emotional about it is silly.

 

[sptrawler]

I am broadly supportive of the idea of shutting down the less viable remote communities but to tell people who live there (or know people who do) not to get emotional about it is silly.

If you read my post,I was inferring the press won't allow emotions to be kept out of it.
Not that it isn't an emotive matter for those involved.

I have actually been involved with village power supplies in W.A, and to a point understand the issues involved.

 

[banco]

Having listened to the discussion re-first home buyers over the past few days I'd suggest this was one of those ideas that was just thrown out there for debate and it looks increasingly like it will be a short debate. That being said, the appearance left is one of a government still not in control of the economic agenda.

Either Joe Hockey is a complete moron or he's a cynic who knew that the policy wouldn't help FHB but would make a good headline.

 

[sptrawler]

Either Joe Hockey is a complete moron or he's a cynic who knew that the policy wouldn't help FHB but would make a good headline.

Just to be counter cyclical, why is it better for a young person e.g 25 years old, to have no house at retirement, but have heaps of money in super?
By then, they may have had it confiscated to supply their pension, yet have never had the ability to buy a house.

I personally don't think it is a good idea, to let people access their super, as all it will do in the present climate is inflate prices.
Yet I read plenty of articles suggesting super should be taxed harder and access to the pension should be limited if a person has super.

So in a way, we are really just annexing young peoples money, to pay for their own pensions.

 

[Logique]

We're not here to subsidize lifestyle choices, says the PM to remote aboriginal communities.

Presumably unless you're wishing to take 6 months paid maternity leave. Or apply for education allowance, or family tax benefit.