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Wysiwyg said:
Tony Abbott says the Indian P.M. is more than almost a kindred spirit, but almost a brother. After less than a week of meeting the bloke in his role as Indian P.M., Abbott comes up with a shallow statement like that to grow a stronger trading partner.
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Well he said almost a brother because he is black and could really at best be a half brother.
Lol.
 
Seems the Govt has had a slap down on their gang of 5 supported FOFA castration. Might not bode well for the inflated price of bank stocks.

Looks like Lambie is on her way to becoming an independent.

We certainly live in interesting times.
 
I think Tony is in the early stages of a serious headspace problem. His recent behaviours are ill considered even for him.

I hope I'm wrong and let's hope someone is keeping an eye on him.
 
This has to be up there with Brandis explaining metadata

Federal minister Christopher Pyne took to Twitter to beg the ABC not to shut down its South Australian TV production unit.

“The board must reassure South Australians that the local TV production house of the ABC will remain in South Australia,” Mr Pyne’s petition says.
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Make sme think Chris has a decent stash of Kava or Peyote that he's consuming a bit too much of lately.
 
sydboy007 said:
This has to be up there with Brandis explaining metadata



Make sme think Chris has a decent stash of Kava or Peyote that he's consuming a bit too much of lately.
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He'll be moaning when the University of Adelaide has to hold chook raffles to raise funds too.

:D
 
Looks like the Chinese colonisation is ready to go forward

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...s-says-bank-boss/story-e6frg8zx-1227127542629

“We know it is very difficult, but if Australia can give permission for Chinese labourers to help with infrastructure construction, then the mines and other projects we both need will be completed *quickly, and the workers will go back to China. They won’t remain in Australia. Then Australia will employ local people to work in those mines and other infrastructure. That will be good for employment, and therefore beneficial for Australia”.

Mr Li conceded this would be difficult to pass through the Australian parliament, “but Australian labour costs are too high”.
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http://www.afr.com/p/national/developer_urges_visa_relaxation_e0NwiyxGqVFQXEd8BVJltJ

“…if the related policies concerning the entry of skilled personnel will be relaxed, it will help all of the progress of our related projects and after the completion of those construction projects, those skilled workers will return back to China. So I believe these related policies should be relaxed”…

“As you know, the visas granted by the US government [are] now extended from one year to five, or even 10 years,” he said. “It’s good.”
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Considering the war on youth from the Abbott Govt, I can see them being very receptive to the idea of Chinese companies buying up Australian resources, importing Chinese labour and equipment, building the new mines to continue the surplus supply and depress prices, profit shift ala glencore, and leave us with little to show for the loss of our resources.
 
Knobby22 said:
Well he said almost a brother because he is black and could really at best be a half brother.
Lol.
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A little while ago he was describing Stephen Harper as like a brother also. Why on earth does he seem to have this compulsion to overstatement? It's surely perfectly possible to be welcoming and respectful without resorting to such hyperbole. Just sounds a bit silly.

Don't people like politicians have access to good coaching on communication? The government has done quite well in achieving some of their stated aims, but the language and delivery is a constant detraction.

Obama is a good example of the power of words and delivery. He has done virtually nothing useful during his tenure, is unlikely to alter this record before he leaves, yet apparently inspires people with his oratorical virtuosity.
 
Julia said:
A little while ago he was describing Stephen Harper as like a brother also. Why on earth does he seem to have this compulsion to overstatement? It's surely perfectly possible to be welcoming and respectful without resorting to such hyperbole. Just sounds a bit silly.

Don't people like politicians have access to good coaching on communication? The government has done quite well in achieving some of their stated aims, but the language and delivery is a constant detraction.

Obama is a good example of the power of words and delivery. He has done virtually nothing useful during his tenure, is unlikely to alter this record before he leaves, yet apparently inspires people with his oratorical virtuosity.
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If you call Obama care as virtually nothing then you're hard please. Millions of poor people in the US can now access affordable healthcare and don't face bankruptcy if the have a major accident or illness
 
sydboy007 said:
If you call Obama care as virtually nothing then you're hard please. Millions of poor people in the US can now access affordable healthcare and don't face bankruptcy if the have a major accident or illness
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I've heard plenty of people express their dissatisfaction with Obamacare. It seems nothing like our Medicare. Yes, probably a step up from what it was for some sections of the population, but not enough to save his reputation.

Plenty of not so great American presidents. He just promised so much with the soaring rhetoric, has failed to live up to it, and is now trying for last gasp redemption via even more promises that he knows he cannot keep.
 
Julia said:
I've heard plenty of people express their dissatisfaction with Obamacare. It seems nothing like our Medicare. Yes, probably a step up from what it was for some sections of the population, but not enough to save his reputation.

Plenty of not so great American presidents. He just promised so much with the soaring rhetoric, has failed to live up to it, and is now trying for last gasp redemption via even more promises that he knows he cannot keep.
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Very few US Presidents achieve much of importance.

Their power over home affairs is very limited, and not many have Congress on side. They are basically figureheads to represent US interests on the world stage. Unless it's wartime, they don't have a lot of influence.

Kennedy probably achieved more than most post war presidents with his "land a man on the moon" directive, but in social reform he had his hands tied a lot of the time as well.
 
It is very clear in my mind parliament as it is, is a shambles due to the bastardy of the senate shenanigans.....Parliament has become totally unworkable and is not in the best interest of this nation.

If the situation does not improve by mid 2015, then Abbott should be replaced and a double dissolution called...it cannot be left any later than mid 2015.......if voters want to go back to the Rudd/Gilaard/Rudd era then so be it....they will just have to suffer the consequences......more debt, more deficits, more borrowings and more heartache.

A double dissolution might also bring some surprises....it has to be done as we can't go on the way we are at present.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-for-pm-to-fight/story-fnihsr9v-1227128699227
 
noco said:
If the situation does not improve by mid 2015, then Abbott should be replaced and a double dissolution called...
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The current senate eruption between Jacqui Lambie and PUP are not TA's fault. The government there just needs to be patient and let Jacquie Lambie exhaust her fireworks.

As for the polls, Essential Media (which doesn't seem to have the static of the other polls) is stable at 48/52 in favour of Labor. While still not good for the government, it's nowhere near as bad as Newspoll 45/55 which may be towards the edge of its margin of error.
 
noco said:
It is very clear in my mind parliament as it is, is a shambles due to the bastardy of the senate shenanigans.....Parliament has become totally unworkable and is not in the best interest of this nation.

If the situation does not improve by mid 2015, then Abbott should be replaced and a double dissolution called...it cannot be left any later than mid 2015.......if voters want to go back to the Rudd/Gilaard/Rudd era then so be it....they will just have to suffer the consequences......more debt, more deficits, more borrowings and more heartache.

A double dissolution might also bring some surprises....it has to be done as we can't go on the way we are at present.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-for-pm-to-fight/story-fnihsr9v-1227128699227
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I think many of Bolts comments would make Abbott unelectable but I do agree on one thing, where is the new blood? There is great talent in the back benches but we are not seeing it. Abbott needs to change this. Even Bolt says there are some talented women being overlooked. There are some talented men also but we just seem to have the old hacks from the previous Howard government. The good guys like Costello, Vanstone retired and we are left with tired second tier politicians like Warren Truss, Kevin Andrews, Andrew Robb. I'd get of Joe Hockey also. So much wasted talent.
 
noco said:
It is very clear in my mind parliament as it is, is a shambles due to the bastardy of the senate shenanigans.....Parliament has become totally unworkable and is not in the best interest of this nation.

If the situation does not improve by mid 2015, then Abbott should be replaced and a double dissolution called...it cannot be left any later than mid 2015.......if voters want to go back to the Rudd/Gilaard/Rudd era then so be it....they will just have to suffer the consequences......more debt, more deficits, more borrowings and more heartache.

A double dissolution might also bring some surprises....it has to be done as we can't go on the way we are at present.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-for-pm-to-fight/story-fnihsr9v-1227128699227
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently don't we have a Government providing more debt, more deficits, more borrowings and more heartache? A year in Govt and the budget seems to be in free fall. Revenue's plunging, spending increasing at unsustainable rates. Hockey has said there wont be large cuts in the budget when the MYEFO is released, so exactly what are they doing so differently to Labor? Have they realised that an economy with increasing unemployment, falling participation rate, lower economic activity, while suffering an income shock due to the fall in the ToT that has a long ways to go yet is a bit harder to manage than they pretended while in opposition?

We have the war on youth with a uni tax that would likely see those studying nursing and education no longer able to afford to do so. There's no acknowledgement of this looming issue. The 6 month wait for those under 30 during a time of historically high youth unemployment, while at the same time throwing money at employers to employ those aged over 50. How is it fair to provide far more support for the over 50s long term unemployed than those under 30?

Possibly the Govt needs to recognise the fact that the electorate didn't give them a mandate to do as they please, that they need to negotiate in good faith, that worth while tax reform is hard. They should know how easy it is to scare people about change since they were so very effective at it when in opposition.

They've give up $8B in carbon tax revenue and seemingly had no plan on how to make up that shortfall, let alone a plan to plug the leaking tax system from the world leading tax expenditures we have (we beat Italy and Greece on that score).

Ho about some action commensurate with the rhetoric they used pre election?
 
I find it very difficult to give this rabble and rubbish of a government any respect. I believe it starts with the simple fact of it's total dishonesty piled on top of a PM who came to power parroting the need for integrity and honesty in government.

The last few days have been the cake. Turnball comes out with a slash and burn approach to the ABC. Now this was this another complete repudiation of the "No cuts to pensions, ABC, schools, Hospital line" that Abbottliar trotted out prior to the last election.

But worse than this Turnball attempted to say that "black was white". That these weren't cuts but savings. Voodoo economics and Double book accounting at it's finest.

On Wednesday Abbottliar smoozes the French President with a public avowal that Climate Change needs to be tackled. He then highlights the role of the Clean Energy council in Australia in helping to develop non carbon and energy efficient technology as part of Australia's progress.

Yep thats the same Clean Energy Council Abbott liar has committed himself to closing down. It is is only alive because of the tenacious integrity of its management and the refusal of the Senate to rubber stamp this vandalism.

What xxxxing bare faced cheek!! At some stage this lying clown needs to told in public, upfront and close what a disgraceful, lying piece of merde he is and the damage he is doing to the integrity of our parliamentary system.

Ok . Thats my rant for the day. You can all go back and tell each other how much unreasonable hate there is for this lying crook.

But don't expect anyone not stuck to Andrew Bolts bum to give you any respect for believing the Mad Abbott.


ABC, climate change: the Coalition is drowning us in nonsense

In opposition, authenticity and truth-telling was the focus. Now it’s all denials and broken promises

Katharine Murphy, deputy political editor
theguardian.com, Thursday 20 November 2014 11.00 AEST
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Australian Broadcasting Corporation ABC Malcolm Turnbull’s denial of Tony Abbott’s election promise to safeguard the ABC’s budget is insulting.

This morning, on the wireless, I heard the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, say the government wasn’t making cuts to the ABC.

The day before, I heard the communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull, say Tony Abbott hadn’t actually promised before last September’s election not to cut the budgets of the ABC and SBS. If Abbott had said something like that, then he didn’t mean it; and more likely, we’d all just misunderstood what the prime minister had said.

Also on Wednesday, I heard the prime minister tell the French president, Francois Hollande, that part of the Australian government’s policy arsenal to combat the risks associated with climate change involved funding an agency called the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.

What he didn’t tell the French president was the government intends to abolish the CEFC.

In politics at the present time, we are drowning in nonsense. The nonsense waves are not only lapping, elegantly, at our ankles, they are picking us all up and dumping us head first into the sand.

The Abbott government is performing so many contortions, and running so rhetorically ragged, it’s hard to see if anything coherent is actually going on.

The maximum self-harm you can inflict on yourself in politics is to obscure your substance with abject nonsense, and yet federal politics has been seemingly locked in this cycle for the past couple of terms. Labor deadweighted itself with kindergarten intrigues and dysfunctional personality conflicts.

This government is seemingly intent on deadweighting itself with evasions and too-clever-by-half constructions that can be ripped apart comprehensively in about a minute-and-a-half.
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http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ange-the-coalition-is-drowning-us-in-nonsense
 
First there was Juliar, now there should be Abbottoir, because of all the blood and cuts.

I can't remember a more dishonest and universally disliked PM.

OK, not many liked Rudd, but at least he stood for a few things. Climate change, clean energy, infrastructure. The Abbottoir has no plans, no vision, and very few friends in the electorate.
 
Oh god, can we please rule out "Abottoir". The months of "Juliar" were bad enough. That is even worse.
Surely it's quite possible to express dissatisfaction with a politician using their proper name.
 
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