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It was o.k to do it under the guise of a wages accord, when Hawke and Keating were in.
Why is it so outragous when the Coalition want to do it?
Maybe because Hawke and Keating achieved wage restraint by consultation, Abbott wants it done by imposition.
Yes consultation with the unions, not the members.
Four terms for Hawke and two for Keating would indicate that the members weren't too upset.
Yep and an 18% drop in real wages.
Someone had too pay for Howard's big black hole he left for Hawke.
And it always helps, when you have future Government ministers, deciding what is best for the worker.lol
I'm sure they had the workers interest at heart.
yeah that too ... you must have read the piece in the Courier Mail today about how we should admire PMs regardless of their degree of dickheadedness.Of course it was written to make us feel ashamed that some rednecks booed his LNP holiness Tony.
Someone had too pay for Howard's big black hole he left for Hawke.
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I personally don't give a rats behind who is in, just that they try and do the best for Australia.
Uum no.
Umm, didn't Howard come after Hawke?
Although I agree, I would need to caveat that the best would be my interpretation, which might run counter to others, the ABC and fabians (did I leave any clichés out?).
Time you took some history lessons
Hawke 1983 - 1991
Keating 1991 - 1996
Howard 1996 - 2007
umm doh
That's true, but having lived in pre mineral boom Australia, and through both booms.
It kind of gives you an understanding of how bad it can get, unless the excesses are reigned in.
Sunshine and lollipops, can soon turn to thunderclouds and $hit butties.
sptrawler said:Also lets not forget the airline pilots and their push for a pay rise, Hawke and Keating did a real number on them.
But hey Abbott is real nasty lol. Hawke screwed over the workers and gets cheered.lol
I think people have short and very selective memories, or are blinded by their unwavering loyalty.
I personally don't give a rats behind who is in, just that they try and do the best for Australia.
Joe Hockey’s commitment at the National Press Club in 2012 that “we will achieve a surplus in our first year in office and we will achieve a surplus for every year of our first term” is long gone.
It is a distant memory with the outlook for the budget deficit this year, and in the next two years, much wider under the stewardship of the treasurer than the one he inherited from the Labor government in September 2013. What’s more, the path to budget surplus is at least two years behind what Labor was budgeting for when it framed its policy outlook ahead of the 2013 election.
Do you reckon Fairfax would have enjoyed publishing this! Rough game politics.
Julie Bishop's new boyfriend revealed as David Panton
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/cel...revealed-as-david-panton-20141106-11hmq1.html
Let's see if the 'Gillard-as-victim-of-misogyny' crowd speak up on this one.
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