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The Abbott Government

The farmers are not the same farmers......the farmers today are a bunch of softies....you never heard of suicides.



Since 1921 (see Table A in the Appendix) the rate of suicide has fluctuated considerably, therefore it is important to look at the rate over time to see where these changes have occurred and what major events may have influence these movements. The age-standardised death rate is the preferred measure to follow changes over time as it takes into account changes in the population size.

For the total population, the suicide rate peaked in 1963, reaching 17.5 per 100 000 persons. However for male suicide deaths the highest rate occurred during the Great Depression of 1930 when the rate reached 28.1 deaths per 100 000, followed by 23.7 in 1963 and 23.6 in 1997. For females, the peak occurred in the 1960s when the rate rose above 10 deaths per 100 000. This increase among women in the 1960s has been attributed in part to the unrestricted availability of hypnotic and sedative drugs.[19]

Over the last decade there has been a gradual decline of male suicide deaths, from 23.6 deaths per 100 000 (1997) to 14.9 deaths per 100 000 (2009). However an increase occurred in 2007 and 2008 (16.2 and 16.7 respectively) after a dip to 13.6 deaths in 2006. This increase could be attributed to improvements in data collection and review as discussed in Limitations of suicide data. Data for 2008 and 2009 will be revised, mostly likely upwards, as a result caution needs to be taken when interpreting the most recent data.


http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam...brary/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide#_Toc299625618
 
Are you suggesting that people (voters) in general are happy to have their pay frozen or reduced to 1.5% PA pay rises when inflation is running at close to 3%? or budget crisis denial?
I have no more idea than you have. Do a substantial survey and then get back to us rather than make assumptions about what people think.

Labor never said it was impossible to stop the boats, can you find a link to that? substantiate that claim?
In about one minute - in response to googling "Labor's claims that the boats could not be stopped", several references popped up. Try it and see for yourself.
This following just happens to be the first one:

"The Australian" 31 October 2014
 
In about one minute - in response to googling "Labor's claims that the boats could not be stopped", several references popped up. Try it and see for yourself.
This following just happens to be the first one:

We don't really know if the boats have been stopped or not, because the data is cloaked in secrecy provisions; which kinda makes me feel the truth is being concealed.

I suspect when the $3 to 4bn annual costs can longer be sustained the gates on the detention islands will be opened and the flood levies will spill over with the same refugees plus their growing families.... that will be just before the Libs lose to the ALP
 

Good one Julia.....I was about to do the same myself.

The Fabians are absolutely hopeless and they won't to run the country again.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch the house is in flames, must be those nasty Fabians stuth when will they stop wrecking this great government?

Director sentiment keeps falling, half say Federal Government hurting business


Fabians are the problem


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-05/director-sentiment-keeps-falling/5867722
 

IFocus, don't take too much notice of that propaganda coming out of the ABC.

We all know how biased the ABC is, as it is run by the Fabians, so what else would you expect?

The ABC have got it wrong so many times....The ABC also know how to manipulate the news to discredit the LNP.

It is unfortunate, the naive believe it.
 

The naive also believe Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones


I'll take the ABC any day over those two jokers.
 
I have no more idea than you have. Do a substantial survey and then get back to us rather than make assumptions about what people think.

Julia ill go out on a limb here and go with a survey of one, people don't like pay freezes and or pay rises that don't at least keep up with inflation...and they dont like cold toast, lying politicians, getting robbed and wetting the bed.
 
IFocus, don't take too much notice of that propaganda coming out of the ABC.

News Ltd, which isn't exactly known for supporting Labor in recent times, is also running the "business says Abbott is crap" line too.

If your natural supporters, business in the case of the Coalition, are saying you're not doing well and a normally favourable media outlet is reporting it well that says it all really.

http://www.themercury.com.au/busine...at-gillard-level/story-fnj6eg8g-1227113359155
 
The naive also believe Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones


I'll take the ABC any day over those two jokers.

Well, of course you would side with the ABC because it suits your beliefs.

Alan Jones is not biased after the way he cut down the Newman Government in Queensland.

Andrew Bolt has also been critical of the Abbott Government.

But not the ABC.....they are blatantly biased......I cannot recall where the ABC has been critical of the Fabians.

The ABC break their charter every day of the week.....they are publicly funded and should abide by that charter.
 

Well abbott's public standing is built on stopping the boats and trying to look tough with Russia on MH 17 etc. none of which business could care less about.
 
Well abbott's public standing is built on stopping the boats and trying to look tough with Russia on MH 17 etc. none of which business could care less about.

It is far better when you hear the whole story.

The Fabians love to cherry pick.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...level-as-gillard/story-e6frg906-1227113303051

Nine out of 10 business leaders said the Senate’s opposition to budget measures had hurt business confidence, with a similar proportion seeing an affect on consumer sentiment.

“There’s a large frustration building up in the Australian population,” Mr Colvin said.
 
We don't really know if the boats have been stopped or not, because the data is cloaked in secrecy provisions; which kinda makes me feel the truth is being concealed.
Irrelevant. My post was a response to So Cynical's assertion that Labor had never claimed that it was impossible to stop the boats.
I provided reference to disprove that.


Julia ill go out on a limb here and go with a survey of one, people don't like pay freezes and or pay rises that don't at least keep up with inflation...and they dont like cold toast, lying politicians, getting robbed and wetting the bed.
Don't be silly. Your 'survey of one' is your opinion and nothing more.

News Ltd, which isn't exactly known for supporting Labor in recent times, is also running the "business says Abbott is crap" line too.
Which perhaps goes to some objectivity on the part of News Ltd, at least "The Australian" ( can't attest to the tabloid rubbish), which is contrary to frequent suggestions on this forum.
 
Julia ill go out on a limb here and go with a survey of one, people don't like pay freezes and or pay rises that don't at least keep up with inflation...and they dont like cold toast, lying politicians, getting robbed and wetting the bed.

We are now paying the price for 6 years of Green/Labor stupidity...Don't you get it?
 
Not a glowing endorsement by business by any means but within it I note the following,



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-05/director-sentiment-keeps-falling/5867722?section=business


If you watched the actual interviews there was not a lot of nice things said about the govt and it's ability to understand business. The qualifications and comparisons were rather sparse.

It was a news article that had to be printed because of the gathering, but cherrypicked by Newscorp to minimise any lasting damage to it's party.
 
It was a news article that had to be printed because of the gathering, but cherrypicked by Newscorp to minimise any lasting damage to it's party.
The link and quote above is from the ABC, not Newscorp.
 
We don't really know if the boats have been stopped or not, because the data is cloaked in secrecy provisions; which kinda makes me feel the truth is being concealed.
The boats have been stopped.

I like a sense of humour.
 
Are you suggesting that people (voters) in general are happy to have their pay frozen or reduced to 1.5% PA pay rises when inflation is running at close to 3%? or budget crisis denial?
.

It was o.k to do it under the guise of a wages accord, when Hawke and Keating were in.

Why is it so outragous when the Coalition want to do it?
 
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