The Abbott Government

[explod]

If that was a real issue why did they actually increase the deficit?

The Carbon tax raised money ditto the mining tax, yet they're gone? reducing revenue is whos folly?

Yeh, well said.

And 600 more being laid off in Victoria with Coles reducing staff.

And fish are getting hard to find in ever drying conditions Noco, but back to my question repeated for months now,

WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM ?

 

[sydboy007]

Yeh, well said.

And 600 more being laid off in Victoria with Coles reducing staff.

And fish are getting hard to find in ever drying conditions Noco, but back to my question repeated for months now,

WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM ?

Dear Tony has assured South Australia BHP will dust off the Olympic Dam expansion plans once the carbon and resources taxes were repealed.

I'm still waiting.

 

[sptrawler]

Dear Tony has assured South Australia BHP will dust off the Olympic Dam expansion plans once the carbon and resources taxes were repealed.

I'm still waiting.

I'm still waiting for free pink batts, I was dumb enough to pay for my own.

But I must admit, I would rather Abbott called a DD, than implement negotiated half ar$ed comprimises.
I am losing my enthusiasm for the modified policy outcomes, with the Palmer flavour.

I think Abbott should have enacted a mini budget untill the 'white paper' was completed, then put forward a hollistic tax reform/ spending cut budget.

He is looking like a 'save my ar$e' politician, same as the last lot.
At this point in time.

Kowtowing to minorities, does not a Statesman make, as was shown by Gillard.IMO

 

[sydboy007]

More hyperbole from the Govt, though I'd say it's just outright lies.

Assistant Infrastructure Minister Jamie Briggs said last night the Coalition was against the idea [of allowing the importation of used vehicle], affirming remarks by *Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane last week…

Mr Briggs said the government had been convinced by the “horrific” New Zealand experience that the easing of restrictions should not extend to used cars.

http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquiry/automotive/report

In it, the PC revealed that New Zealand had gained from opening its market to high quality Japanese used cars, lowering costs for consumers without compromising the safety of its vehicle fleet.

Specifically, the PC found that “prices for second hand Toyota Corollas… of similar mileage were on average almost 20 per cent cheaper in New Zealand than in Australia”. It also quoted a 2005 study by researchers at the Monash University Accident Research Centre, which found that “the used imports [into New Zealand] were as safe as those sold new when compared on a year of manufacture basis, and that the difference in crashworthiness performance between an average used imported vehicle and an average new vehicle was attributable to the date of manufacture of the used vehicle rather than its previous use in its country of origin”.

How exactly does this equate to an “horrific experience” for New Zealand consumers?

 

[IFocus]

Its is quite concerning Abbott ramping up the outrage factor for the recent events in the middle east knowing its good for short term polling, in other words talk about anything bar the budget.

Saved by security as Coalition asks what's next

So what's next for a government that finds its narrow pre-election agenda largely, and so quickly, fulfilled? In steps national security, writes Jonathan Green.

And there it was. Just days from its first anniversary the Abbott government came within a freeway extension of delivering its first-term agenda.

Axe the carbon tax. Check.

Get rid of the mining tax. Check.

Stop the boats. Check.

Which, were it not for the nation's sudden war footing, would leave something of a Peggy Lee moment, a yawning sense of, is that all there is?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-04/green-saved-by-security/5717304

 

[IFocus]

Then there are the dirty back room deals Abbott promised would never happen on his watch

Joe Hockey distances Government from PUP 'Australia Fund' drive to free taxpayer funds for struggling rural businesses

The Federal Government has sought to distance itself from a proposal by the Palmer United Party (PUP) to use taxpayers' money to prop up struggling rural businesses, despite voting to set up an inquiry into the idea.

The Coalition supported a PUP motion to set up a parliamentary inquiry into the so-called Australia Fund, as part of its deal with the PUP to repeal the mining tax.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/newreply.php?p=839547&noquote=1

 

[Julia]

More hyperbole from the Govt, though I'd say it's just outright lies.

Assistant Infrastructure Minister Jamie Briggs said last night the Coalition was against the idea [of allowing the importation of used vehicle], affirming remarks by *Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane last week…

Mr Briggs said the government had been convinced by the “horrific” New Zealand experience that the easing of restrictions should not extend to used cars.

http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquiry/automotive/report

In it, the PC revealed that New Zealand had gained from opening its market to high quality Japanese used cars, lowering costs for consumers without compromising the safety of its vehicle fleet.

Specifically, the PC found that “prices for second hand Toyota Corollas… of similar mileage were on average almost 20 per cent cheaper in New Zealand than in Australia”. It also quoted a 2005 study by researchers at the Monash University Accident Research Centre, which found that “the used imports [into New Zealand] were as safe as those sold new when compared on a year of manufacture basis, and that the difference in crashworthiness performance between an average used imported vehicle and an average new vehicle was attributable to the date of manufacture of the used vehicle rather than its previous use in its country of origin”.

How exactly does this equate to an “horrific experience” for New Zealand consumers?

Good question. As someone who owned a Japanese second hand import whilst still living in NZ, my experience was that it was hugely cheaper and every bit as functional.
The Australian government could also take some lessons from the fact that New Zealanders pay far less for many pharmaceutical drugs than do Australians. One could reasonably expect our government to find out exactly why and follow a similar process of negotiation.

 

[noco]

Then there are the dirty back room deals Abbott promised would never happen on his watch

Joe Hockey distances Government from PUP 'Australia Fund' drive to free taxpayer funds for struggling rural businesses



https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/newreply.php?p=839547&noquote=1

IFocus, I believe you have stretched the truth about Abbott not doing and deals....negotiating to have bills passed through the senate is nothing like the signed deal Gillard did with the Greens Bob Brown......you can read into all you like, but IMHO that was not the type of deal you are trying to make out about Abbott and the minority parties.

Abbott can negotiate with the Greens, Labor, PUP or the independents but there is no signed and sealed "DIRTY" deal like Gillard and Brown and didn't it cost Gillard plenty..."There will be no carbon dioxide tax under the Government I lead" and the after signing an official deal with the Greens she had to back flip to appease the Greens to stay in power with her minority Government.

 

[noco]

Yeh, well said.

And 600 more being laid off in Victoria with Coles reducing staff.

And fish are getting hard to find in ever drying conditions Noco, but back to my question repeated for months now,

WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM ?

There are some 130,000 jobs available in remote parts of Australia but the majority are not prepared to accept, so they let in overseas workers on 457 visas and then their commie unions complain like hell about it.

Maybe the solution is to shift the mines closer to the big cities.

 

[noco]

Everyone pays for everything in the end. we don't want employers complaining that company tax rates are too high to pay for pensions because people haven't got enough super.

I have just read another version of Superannuation.

Here are some comments from other readers of the Sun Herald.



Bill Shorten said Abbott postponement of the rate of increase to supper funds was the biggest con job ever on all Australians.
NO Bill it was Labor increasing the tax on supper by $9 billion in your 6 years of Govt.
Employees can choose to add to there superannuation as I did for the last 10 years I worked.
It also means more money in the workers pockets now.
bill b (Reply)
Thu 04 Sep 14 (08:35am)
Justa comment replied to bill b
Thu 04 Sep 14 (10:07am)

Reply to bill b: Yes Shorten was part of the team that promised no change to Superannuation and then Labor broke its promise to the electorate, and made many changes to increase the taxation take and reduce benefits to members. For me, Shorten is a man of no substance and I think cannot be believed in anything he says. Nuff’ said.



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ments/super_isnt_free_it_comes_from_your_pay/

 

[sptrawler]

More hyperbole from the Govt, though I'd say it's just outright lies.

Assistant Infrastructure Minister Jamie Briggs said last night the Coalition was against the idea [of allowing the importation of used vehicle], affirming remarks by *Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane last week…

Mr Briggs said the government had been convinced by the “horrific” New Zealand experience that the easing of restrictions should not extend to used cars.

http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquiry/automotive/report

In it, the PC revealed that New Zealand had gained from opening its market to high quality Japanese used cars, lowering costs for consumers without compromising the safety of its vehicle fleet.

Specifically, the PC found that “prices for second hand Toyota Corollas… of similar mileage were on average almost 20 per cent cheaper in New Zealand than in Australia”. It also quoted a 2005 study by researchers at the Monash University Accident Research Centre, which found that “the used imports [into New Zealand] were as safe as those sold new when compared on a year of manufacture basis, and that the difference in crashworthiness performance between an average used imported vehicle and an average new vehicle was attributable to the date of manufacture of the used vehicle rather than its previous use in its country of origin”.

How exactly does this equate to an “horrific experience” for New Zealand consumers?

Pre lifting the restrictions in NZ everyone was driving around in 20 - 30 year old cars, it was like visiting a set of the "Sulivans".

It is crazy the way we are being held to ransom by Aussie car dealers.
Why we pay $200k for a Porsche 911 when they pay $65k in the U.S is extortion.(not that i would buy one)lol

But I have a run of the mill U.S car, I went to buy a plastic clip that has broken, I was quoted $140 for 14 clips.

Apparently they won't sell them individually, I can buy 10 from the U.S for $9 plus $20 postage.

So should I buy 10 from the U.S for $29, or 14 from my dealer for $140?

Why can't the dealer sell one for $10?

I'm supposed to have sympathy? Nobody has sympathy for my plight, trying to make my savings last?

I either pay $29 for one little plastic clip and have nine usless clips left over, or spend $140 and have 13 left over.

Or I go to Bunnings and get some double sided tape.lol

 

[sydboy007]

Good question. As someone who owned a Japanese second hand import whilst still living in NZ, my experience was that it was hugely cheaper and every bit as functional.
The Australian government could also take some lessons from the fact that New Zealanders pay far less for many pharmaceutical drugs than do Australians. One could reasonably expect our government to find out exactly why and follow a similar process of negotiation.

AUS-USA FTA has caused the extension of patents on drugs to last years longer than in NZ and a lot of other countries.

Howard went into the deal knowing full well it would cost the PBS hundreds of millions extra each year, but was so desperate to get a deal done he sold out the interests of the country.

 

[sptrawler]

AUS-USA FTA has caused the extension of patents on drugs to last years longer than in NZ and a lot of other countries.

Howard went into the deal knowing full well it would cost the PBS hundreds of millions extra each year, but was so desperate to get a deal done he sold out the interests of the country.

You really don't have much positive to say about anything, other than Labor.

Yet you criticise their time in office also.

Do I detect an aspiring politician, that lacks the courage to take the definitive step into the void.

 

[sydboy007]

You really don't have much positive to say about anything, other than Labor.

Yet you criticise their time in office also.

Do I detect an aspiring politician, that lacks the courage to take the definitive step into the void.

At least I'm not like a lot of members on this forum who criticize without any basis in facts.

Agreeing to extend the patents on pharmaceuticals knowing it will cause a large cost blowout in the PBS is not in my way of thinking good policy or signs of sound economic management skills.

But hey, in your view only no Liberals make decisions that negatively affect the country so it's all good.

 

[SirRumpole]

You really don't have much positive to say about anything, other than Labor.

Yet you criticise their time in office also.

Do I detect an aspiring politician, that lacks the courage to take the definitive step into the void.

That is a pretty lame counter to a specific assertion made by syd. Do you deny his allegation that part of our US free trade deal was the extension of patents on medicines ?

One wonders what similar deals the Abbott government committed us to so they could trumpet free trade deals with Japan and Korea.

Hey look, a free trade deal WOW !!!, but they never tell us about the fine print that costs us $$$.

 

[noco]

That is a pretty lame counter to a specific assertion made by syd. Do you deny his allegation that part of our US free trade deal was the extension of patents on medicines ?

One wonders what similar deals the Abbott government committed us to so they could trumpet free trade deals with Japan and Korea.

Hey look, a free trade deal WOW !!!, but they never tell us about the fine print that costs us $$$.

Here you go Rumpy. have a look at this for starters.....Jobs, jobs and more jobs for Australians.......(This is one is also for Plod ....WHERE ARE THE JOBS COMING FROM ?).......It is all coming into place.....Pity the Green/Labor socialist left wingers hadn't got off their backsides instead introducing big new taxes to pay for their extravaganza 2007/2013.

Thank goodness we now have a mature government with some savvy instead of the dead beat ex union hacks who have nothing to add in the National interest.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/fta/jaepa/snapshot/

CONSUMERS

Eyeing up a new car or laptop? It could be best to hold off as the main benefit for Australian consumers will be cheaper appliances and electronics produced in Japan.

International Business professor and former Austrade chief economist Tim Harcourt said consumers wanting cheap cars, plus those in the tourism, education and health care sectors will be the major beneficiaries over the long-term as the agreement strips away prohibitive barriers that can make trade difficult and expensive.



http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...ll-for-consumers/story-e6frflo9-1226980714601

 

[SirRumpole]

Here you go Rumpy. have a look at this for starters.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/fta/jaepa/snapshot/



http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...ll-for-consumers/story-e6frflo9-1226980714601

Thanks for that noco.

It seems to me though that as Japan has always been a big trading partner for us, and we have maintained a balance of trade surplus with them, then why the necessity for an FTA ? I can only see this having a detrimental effect on our balance of trade with Japan, and I wonder why we would bother with it.

 

[noco]

Thanks for that noco.

It seems to me though that as Japan has always been a big trading partner for us, and we have maintained a balance of trade surplus with them, then why the necessity for an FTA ? I can only see this having a detrimental effect on our balance of trade with Japan, and I wonder why we would bother with it.

If you care to read into ole boy you will observe the deletion of all tariffs imposed upon Australian goods.

Example : My mate had a farm in Vic and used to export 150 tonnes of asparagus to Japan at a time which had tariff of 15 %....that tariff has now gonnnnnnne!!!

 

[SirRumpole]

If you care to read into ole boy you will observe the deletion of all tariffs imposed upon Australian goods.

Example : My mate had a farm in Vic and used to export 150 tonnes of asparagus to Japan at a time which had tariff of 15 %....that tariff has now gonnnnnnne!!!

I'm sure that will be good for your mate, and good luck to him, but it's the overall impact to our economy that counts, and if the FTA results in a worse balance of trade for us, then it's hard to argue that the FTA is beneficial to us overall.

 

[noco]

I'm sure that will be good for your mate, and good luck to him, but it's the overall impact to our economy that counts, and if the FTA results in a worse balance of trade for us, then it's hard to argue that the FTA is beneficial to us overall.

OFGS Rumpy, give it a break.

Give me some proof of what you are saying about a worse trade balance.

Didn't you read where we are expected to be in front of exports versus imports from Japan.

If you are astute enough to read the first link I posted, then you will observe the following.

Exports to Japan........$49.53 billion

Imports from Japan.......$21,22 billion

What is the point of my providing you with this information if you don't read it?

This typical of some of our ASF posters...they are so biased .......they do not want the Abbott Government to have success.....How about giving some credit when it is due?