Didn't the Henry tax review come out while Labor was in government? Were you raging about nothing being done about it then?So you believe there is not a single recommending in the Henry tax review that could have been used in the budget?
http://taxreview.treasury.gov.au/con...chapter_12.htm
138 recommendations and the Govt, like Labor, has chosen to ignore them. How is that rational when we're told there's a budget crisis? It's only rational when political ideology trumps good policy.
As Syd and I said, pensioners would get more money if it was linked to cpi, not wages. As the RBA has said on numerous occassions they expect average wages to fall and cpi to be at the upper levels of their range.
But as is usual, the plebs listen to the white sound from the hollow vessels. Priceless
Haven't you read wages are falling, cpi is rising, the dollar is falling which will result in a rise in cpi.
I really do get a laugh out of your posts.lol
I was going to have a shot at the obvious contradiction regarding pollies smoking cigars/ pollies arriving in private jets.
But I really find it a bit of a shock, that someone I thought was open minded, can't see the sense in the idea.
Two points.
1. As far as I know those with an ongoing condition are exempt. I know this because my Mum freaked, I said calm down and find out the facts. She asked her doctor and he told her because she had an ongoing condition it wouldn't affect her.
Didn't the Henry tax review come out while Labor was in government? Were you raging about nothing being done about it then?
NZ has a much better Super system. It's universal and is simply added to the claimant's taxable income. There is no tax free threshold as applies here, so everyone pays tax at some level. Simple, and afaik, extremely workable. There are certainly not the constant squabbles about it as occur here.
Your mum is going to be in for quite a shock then if the budget gets through. Those with ongoing conditions are not exempt.
It depends how long that cycle lasts as to whether pensioners will be better off or not in the long term. Obviously the pensioner advocates have done their sums and have determined that they will be worse off in the long run.
I suggest you take it up with them.
Also, if what you say is true , then Hockey is pretty stupid isn't he ? Trying to make savings but instead giving the pensioners more. What a dill.
Have you checked up on that? I am so over it. FFS
If I find you are wrong Banco, I will be all over you forever, I am so pi$$ed of with this budget missinformation. I don't forget and i don't forgive, also I expect to be treated the same way.
So We will check out that statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Well two minutes later first google entry.
Those who have special health needs, such as those with Health Assessments or those on Chronic Disease Management programs, will be exempt from the patient contribution.
Well before this times out, it looks like me and you are going to have issues.lol
Sounds like another brain fart from labor as GG would say.
I hate bad language but you really make me angry, the problem with ill founded scare tactics, it sends us all down the chute.
Also diminishes your credibility.
Hockey made his call pre the wage and cpi results, you made your statement purely on a party based blurb.
That makes you the goon.
While it is true that Medicare’s chronic disease management item will be exempt from the $7 GP fee, this is only for one doctors visit a year where the GP plans the patients care for their chronic illnesses.
Australian Medical Association GP spokesman Dr Brian Morton says every other visit the patient with a chronic illness makes to the GP or medical test that is ordered would be hit by a $7 GP fee.
http://www.news.com.au/national/who...their-own-policy/story-fncynjr2-1226926025926
Anyway remember we are in a budget emergency and your mum shouldn't expect to be able to bludge off the taxpayer.
Well as I said, my mother was worried, she lives in Collie a country town in W.A.
I told her to go and ask the doctor how it will affect her, she is 82 has type2 diabetes and heart tablets.
When she asked the doctor how it would affect her, he said you have an ongoing problem that requires constant monitoring and care, you will not be charged the $7 payment.
Now you can talk it up as much as you want, but untill that is proven wrong, I will take that as being more correct, than someone who has a vested interest in spreading miss information.
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Didn't the Henry tax review come out while Labor was in government? Were you raging about nothing being done about it then?
NZ has a much better Super system. It's universal and is simply added to the claimant's taxable income. There is no tax free threshold as applies here, so everyone pays tax at some level. Simple, and afaik, extremely workable. There are certainly not the constant squabbles about it as occur here.
sp, a bit of a digression, but..55? You mean 65 right?...With regards the pension if someone 55 gives up their job, travels the world, buys porsches and blow all their money, qualify for a taxpayer funded income of $32,000 per year indexed to the average wage. Sounds good to me...
Noco as Syd has said on many occassions, the tax threshold reductions were unsustainable, I sugest they return to the levels, pre Howard reducing them, which was in 2000.
Which was $14,102 + 47 cents for every dollar over $50,000.
Well that wasn't too long ago, but apparently that shouldn't have been raised.
We certainly wouldn't have a deficit, if they hadn't increased the thresholds, but the Labor hacks would be screaming about tax thresholds.
They really are a bunch of lost souls.
They don't want to be in opposition, yet when they get in power they overspend on poorly thought out policy.
Then when they are in opposition, they don't want to help pay for the debt they have caused. Childish behaviour.IMO
I wonder how much money people would be earning, if as Syd sugests we go to pre Howard threshold increases.
That would sort out all our tax/welfare problems. Wind the tax scales back to 2000 levels, that's only 7 years before Labor got in.
Apparently that caused all the problems, well I can see it will fix them.lol
While it is true that Medicare’s chronic disease management item will be exempt from the $7 GP fee, this is only for one doctors visit a year where the GP plans the patients care for their chronic illnesses.
Australian Medical Association GP spokesman Dr Brian Morton says every other visit the patient with a chronic illness makes to the GP or medical test that is ordered would be hit by a $7 GP fee.
http://www.news.com.au/national/who...their-own-policy/story-fncynjr2-1226926025926
Anyway remember we are in a budget emergency and your mum shouldn't expect to be able to bludge off the taxpayer.
sp, a bit of a digression, but..55? You mean 65 right?
When did I ever say taxes should go back to their per 2000 levels.
What I have said is that in total all the Howard and the post 2007 Rudd tax cuts were unsustainable.
The majority of those cuts were funded not by tax reform but by the mining boom. Now that revenue is back to a level as a % of GDP roughly in line with the pre boom level the budget is in deficit. So we have a roughly 3% drop in federal taxation revenue. Pretty much that transitory income jump was spent on tax cuts and increased welfare. From my way of looking at it, when someone knows they've got a temporary wage increase but sets up new spending that is reliant on at least maintaining that new level of income, they're not particularly good economic managers.
You seem to like ignoring the fact that it was the Howard Govt that gave us the massive increases in wasteful middle class welfare. Howard was the one to send the budget into structural deficit, and Rudd was a fool in copying the remaining tax cuts after 2007. Sensible economic managers do not hear the RBA saying inflation is getting out of control and decide to provide billions more in tax cuts and other spending increases, forcing mortgage rates to hit over 9%.
Ah yes....one has to have a laugh at the funny side of present day politics run at times by a bunch of lunatics.
Ya just gotta lov'em.
.you don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer.
Thanks for that important and meaningful contribution to the debate.
All you have said is "shut up if you don't agree with me".
May I suggest you do the same ?
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