The Abbott Government

[explod]

You just don't get it do you? ........Jobs will be created when business confidence is resurrected under the Coalition Government by deleting the impediments installed by the Labor Party and the control the corrupt unions.

You just think the Government can wave a magic wand and ha presto new jobs will be here tomorrow.....there is a lot of catching up to do after Labor's neglect......The Labor Party has also hampered the government in the senate in implementing their polices......hopefully the new senate will be more sympathetic and not as hostile with the negativity of the Labor Party.
Let us see the results in the next two years and if improvement does not happen I will be first in line to criticize the Abbott governement

Noco, you are the one that does not get it.

Governments are supposed to lead and promote vision for the people to follow. We have had none of this from your pal Tony. In the past we had, .Chiffey, Menzies, Fraser and Keating who were very visionary, whout the ideas out there andut government money in to ensure objectives were met.

The debt of the government is minuscule on a per capita basis compared to that of most other countries and is why our currency refuses to fall. The US debt is almost off the scale in trillions. The little bit of debt we have is just a reason for the libs to rant on and do nothing more than support the self interest of their close financial supporters.

I would be telling the people that we have the Chinese starting to have direct flights out of Avelon airport, (in fact about 3 years time) The Geelong region is a great producer of food so the government could assist enterprises to ramp up productivity in this area to capitalise on this. And food production is becoming a big problem in china. Government help to increase and further stimulate the fish farms in this region. The Chinese love our scallops for example. China is working on more efficient solar panels, our expertise being made redundant could work with the Chinese to create much more energy efficient vehicles. Investment (by borrowing ) in such areas is the way forward and how it was done successfully in the past.

In the past the government financed Soldier Settlement to develop the farming of western Victoria just after the war. Such schemes could be imitated to help people on the margins build their own homes and create decentralised communities, which could also reduce traffic problems. Decentralised self sufficient communities will again help to reduce the terrible traffic problems we have in Victoria and reduce the need for the enourmouse amounts being spent on freeways.

And I could go on noco.

So I repeat noco, under Abbott, where are the jobs going to come from?

Are you able to think and conceptualise ole pal, can Abbott. Not looking good.

 

[noco]

Noco, you are the one that does not get it.

Governments are supposed to lead and promote vision for the people to follow. We have had none of this from your pal Tony. In the past we had, .Chiffey, Menzies, Fraser and Keating who were very visionary, whout the ideas out there andut government money in to ensure objectives were met.

The debt of the government is minuscule on a per capita basis compared to that of most other countries and is why our currency refuses to fall. The US debt is almost off the scale in trillions. The little bit of debt we have is just a reason for the libs to rant on and do nothing more than support the self interest of their close financial supporters.

I would be telling the people that we have the Chinese starting to have direct flights out of Avelon airport, (in fact about 3 years time) The Geelong region is a great producer of food so the government could assist enterprises to ramp up productivity in this area to capitalise on this. And food production is becoming a big problem in china. Government help to increase and further stimulate the fish farms in this region. The Chinese love our scallops for example. China is working on more efficient solar panels, our expertise being made redundant could work with the Chinese to create much more energy efficient vehicles. Investment (by borrowing ) in such areas is the way forward and how it was done successfully in the past.

In the past the government financed Soldier Settlement to develop the farming of western Victoria just after the war. Such schemes could be imitated to help people on the margins build their own homes and create decentralised communities, which could also reduce traffic problems. Decentralised self sufficient communities will again help to reduce the terrible traffic problems we have in Victoria and reduce the need for the enourmouse amounts being spent on freeways.

And I could go on noco.

So I repeat noco, under Abbott, where are the jobs going to come from?

Are you able to think and conceptualise ole pal, can Abbott. Not looking good.

I give up on you plod....I have explained it to twice on how jobs will be created.

You appear to be so narrow minded, I believe you could see through a key hold with two eyes.

 

[drsmith]

It's one way to get media attention,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-...tt-put-career-before-daughters-safety/5568286

 

[Julia]

Hopefully some of the experienced senators will pull Ms Lambie into line fairly quickly.
She certainly doesn't suffer from any self esteem problems.

 

[chiff]

Where are the jobs coming from.Maybe from an idea that someone in Northern Norway told me years ago.
Perhaps they can all go down to Oslo and cut eachothers hair."

 

[SirRumpole]

I saw the Jacquie Lambie interview, and she reminds me of the character Nurse Diesel in the Mel Brooks film High Anxiety. That said, at least she has some ability to express herself and some ideas on what she wants to get done.

I think Clive has his hands full dealing with Jacquie, never mind Tony Abbot.

 

[explod]

I give up on you plod....I have explained it to twice on how jobs will be created.

You appear to be so narrow minded, I believe you could see through a key hold with two eyes.

Never give up noco. You have said how, But have failed to say WHAT.

Can you go from the how and tell us in what the jobs will likely to be. Some concepts is all I ask ole pal.

Stimulation around the world has failed, the people need direction and support.

 

[noco]

I saw the Jacquie Lambie interview, and she reminds me of the character Nurse Diesel in the Mel Brooks film High Anxiety. That said, at least she has some ability to express herself and some ideas on what she wants to get done.

I think Clive has his hands full dealing with Jacquie, never mind Tony Abbot.

I think he has his hands full with the chows as well

 

[drsmith]

It's inevitable that Uncle Clive will have trouble with the cats on his lap.

What's PUP's guiding principals other than Clive himself ?

 

[drsmith]

Never give up noco. You have said how, But have failed to say WHAT.

Can you go from the how and tell us in what the jobs will likely to be.

You seem to be hammering this point so as a mild curiosity, I'm interest in your specific ideas.

 

[noco]

Never give up noco. You have said how, But have failed to say WHAT.

Can you go from the how and tell us in what the jobs will likely to be. Some concepts is all I ask ole pal.

Stimulation around the world has failed, the people need direction and support.

OK Plod, now pay attention and I will tell you one more time....If I don't get through to you this time please drop it because I think you are trying to be a little smart by half.

The Government scraps the carbon tax, the mining tax, Labor's hare brain regulations, green tape, red tape gets their budget though the senate without the negativity of the Green/Labor socialist left wing Fabain Society thinking, control the corrupt militant unions, build up business confidence and the jobs will follow in the planned infrastructure, mining, agriculture and manufacturing.

If you can't understand it all that well, then I suggest you wait and observe developments during the next two years when you will see the results....You are expecting them to be able turn the Queen Mary around in 5 minutes and it does not work like that.....You also have a very short memory of the Labor mess that has to be cleaned up at the same time.

 

[banco]

OK Plod, now pay attention and I will tell you one more time....If I don't get through to you this time please drop it because I think you are trying to be a little smart by half.

The Government scraps the carbon tax, the mining tax, Labor's hare brain regulations, green tape, red tape gets their budget though the senate without the negativity of the Green/Labor socialist left wing Fabain Society thinking, control the corrupt militant unions, build up business confidence and the jobs will follow in the planned infrastructure, mining, agriculture and manufacturing.

If you can't understand it all that well, then I suggest you wait and observe developments during the next two years when you will see the results....You are expecting them to be able turn the Queen Mary around in 5 minutes and it does not work like that.....You also have a very short memory of the Labor mess that has to be cleaned up at the same time.

I like how people who are ostensibly free marketeers place such stock in the actions of Government to create jobs.

 

[dutchie]

I like how people who are ostensibly free marketeers place such stock in the actions of Government to create jobs.

Thats what makes the world go round.

 

[McLovin]

OK Plod, now pay attention and I will tell you one more time....If I don't get through to you this time please drop it because I think you are trying to be a little smart by half.

The Government scraps the carbon tax, the mining tax, Labor's hare brain regulations, green tape, red tape gets their budget though the senate without the negativity of the Green/Labor socialist left wing Fabain Society thinking, control the corrupt militant unions, build up business confidence and the jobs will follow in the planned infrastructure, mining, agriculture and manufacturing.

If you can't understand it all that well, then I suggest you wait and observe developments during the next two years when you will see the results....You are expecting them to be able turn the Queen Mary around in 5 minutes and it does not work like that.....You also have a very short memory of the Labor mess that has to be cleaned up at the same time.

Wow. It's all so simple!

 

[IFocus]

It's one way to get media attention,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-...tt-put-career-before-daughters-safety/5568286

She made an obvious and valid point one I notice none of the rampant right have noted

New senator Jacqui Lambie says the Prime Minister put his political career ahead of his daughters' safety by "parading" them for the media in last year's election campaign.

 

[IFocus]

Tim Dunlop writes quite a good line worth a read

The right hates the society it has created

So when Kelly laments our fragmenting political culture and our failure to get behind a national program of reform, the program and reform he implicitly means is a continuation of the neoliberal dogma that has dominated the thinking of the political class -- here and around world -- for the last several decades.

In other words, he is arguing in favour of an economic system that by its nature creates the very social fragmentation that he is lamenting.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-04/dunlop-the-right-hates-the-society-it-has-created/5568928

 

[explod]

OK Plod, now pay attention and I will tell you one more time....If I don't get through to you this time please drop it because I think you are trying to be a little smart by half.

The Government scraps the carbon tax, the mining tax, Labor's hare brain regulations, green tape, red tape gets their budget though the senate without the negativity of the Green/Labor socialist left wing Fabain Society thinking, control the corrupt militant unions, build up business confidence and the jobs will follow in the planned infrastructure, mining, agriculture and manufacturing.

If you can't understand it all that well, then I suggest you wait and observe developments during the next two years when you will see the results....You are expecting them to be able turn the Queen Mary around in 5 minutes and it does not work like that.....You also have a very short memory of the Labor mess that has to be cleaned up at the same time.

So noco you have metered out a heap of bang heads and told me to go away.

But noco I cannot go till you get it, you still do not.

Now to get the carbon tax out of the way, get the budget back into surpass and all the other things you would think that ya ole pal tony would dangle some carrots by putting up a few ideas on,

WHERE ARE THE JOBS GOING TO COME FROM????

Noco,???

Now this time answer the question with some objectivity.

And blaming the last government is unproductive, we all know they fell apart, that,s why they are out. How are you libs going to stay in?

And for the record I am fast becoming a centre left to the right, a Malcolm Frazer follower. Certainly labor has lost me and the greens seem pretty bereft of ideas also.

 

[Calliope]

And for the record I am fast becoming a centre left to the right, a Malcolm Frazer follower. Certainly labor has lost me and the greens seem pretty bereft of ideas also.

You are obviously bereft of ideas Plod. What the hell is a "center left to the right"? It would be foolish to follow Malcolm Fraser. It might lead you to Memphis where you could end up "wearing nothing but a towell and a confused expression". I don't think anyone has taken him seriously since, except the Greens, and they are weirdos.

IT'S one of Australia's most enduring and mysterious political scandals. How did Malcolm Fraser end up in the foyer of a seedy Memphis hotel - popular with prostitutes and drug dealers - wearing nothing but a towel and a confused expression?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ers-and-me-tamie/story-e6frg6xf-1111114264770

 

[drsmith]

Paul Kelly's piece today is well worth a read.

WITH Tony Abbott issuing a personal and passionate pledge to rekindle “the age of reform” in Australia, the sources of national prosperity and living standards growth remain uncertain given global unpredictability and domestic political rancour.

Leading economists Chris Richardson, director of Deloitte Access Economics, and the University of Melbourne’s Ross Garnaut warned this week that Australia faced a sharp fall in living standards growth ”” a jolt awaiting the Australian people.

“The lesson for Australia is productivity or bust,” Richardson said. He gave a presentation suggesting that “growth in our living standards will halve” and said of the debate on national reform: “You look at the conversation today and it terrifies me.”

Garnaut warned that even Richardson’s predictions might be optimistic. He renewed the call for a better productivity performance and went to the heart of the problem: “I regret to say that changes in the contemporary political culture will be necessary to deliver productivity-enhancing reform.”

Australia’s future was addressed this week at an intense National Economic and Social Outlook Conference, the ninth, jointly run by The Australian and the Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research, titled “Pathways to Growth”, featuring leaders from both the Coalition and Labor, policy analysts and academic experts.

The big and contradictory themes were: passionate declarations of reform faith by the Prime Minister and Joe Hockey; repudiations of the budget by Labor, not because of the scale of fiscal cuts but because of values and fairness; and concern from the policy community about fiscal sustainability, global risk and the shadow over future prosperity.

The deception that Australia has no serious budget problem was exposed comprehensively, yet again, by John Daley, head of the Grattan Institute, in a presentation that demands more attention. Daley’s bottom line is that current settings, even after the Hockey budget, “are not sustainable in the long run”.

Daley showed that the budget had both “a revenue and a spending problem”, contrary to much political opinion. He found the biggest single driver of escalating costs was healthcare while welfare outlays were contained. Daley’s analysis shows the main adjustment in the budget is not spending cuts but tax increases, notably “bracket creep” (people pushed into higher tax rates), and this is sure to create an income tax problem. He says more structural policy decisions will be essential and there are only hard political options left.

Richardson summed up the position: “The budget isn’t in crisis but it is in need of much more repair than many realise.” He said it was responsibility of “politicians on both sides of the aisle to lead the repair job”. The best place to start, surely, is an honest admission of Australia’s fiscal reality rather than the current denialism.

Calling last year’s campaign “the Seinfeld election”, Richardson said the politicians “were promising a lot extra when the budget was in deficit”.

Significantly, opposition Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen said he agreed with Daley’s argument about the need for a far greater fiscal consolidation.

Abbott and Hockey half agreed and half dissented from the policy community. They agreed on the need for reform but rejected the pessimism on living standards. Indeed, the Prime Minister and Treasurer are profoundly satisfied with the decision they took to become a government of ambitious reform. You may think they are unnerved by bad polls. They are not.

Their government has a cause and they radiate a sense of purpose. Yet their conversation has yet to strike a persuasive chord with the public. “The age of reform has not ended in Australia,” Abbott told the conference dinner. “It has only been interrupted and is now beginning again. Strongly. Purposefully. And I believe effectively.”

Abbott said he wanted to address the critique of the political system made by the author in The Australian on Wednesday ”” that politics was in malfunction and it was uncertain whether a reforming PM could succeed any more.

“It’s a question many of you may have pondered especially over the past few weeks,” Abbott said. “It can only be answered with a decisive ‘yes’.

Abbott’s argument was that “business as usual is not an option for a country that’s living beyond its means”. He said the government’s reforms were “difficult but necessary”. During questions Abbott praised the reform feats of Bob Hawke and John Howard in office. He asserted: “The budget will pass because no one has put up a credible alternative.”

Yet this confidence on the budget is unconvincing.

Independent senator Nick Xenophon told the final session he felt the government would struggle to get its main budget savings through the Senate and predicted a policy re-think or mini-budget would be necessary.

But Hockey offered an upbeat view. The world was marked by “new disruptive forces” but, he said, “I believe we stand at the dawn of another great age of prosperity, but it is a very different epoch to what anyone would have imagined in 1964” (the birth of The Australian).

Selling the budget philosophy, Hockey said people “don’t want governments to dominate their lives” and that in a more competitive global world the best preparation was “to reduce the role *of government in people’s lives by better targeting spending” and reducing the overall tax burden.

It is obvious that Abbott and Hockey need to refine their priorities. They are battling to pass their budget. They continue to open new policy fronts with reviews on welfare, tax, federalism, industrial relations, competition policy and the finance system.

On the budget Hockey was aggressive over the Coalition’s proposal to index fuel taxes. This move has many policy dividends: for revenue, for the environment and for equity. Yet the Greens oppose it, a stance Hockey called “obscene”. Passionately attached to his asset recycling fund to encourage the states to privatise their assets for new infrastructure investments, the Treasurer said the funds would be appropriated directly to the states if Labor tried to delay the process.

Melbourne Institute head Deborah Cobb-Clark argued the public policy task was how to introduce the needed economic reforms while keeping alive the notion of social contract. She produced research showing that at age 26, people who had grown up in a “welfare” family were “three to four times more likely to be accessing income support” than those from non-welfare families.

The risk was that any policy change that drove such people “back into the arms of their families will intensify any inter-generational disadvantage”.

This threw the spotlight on the government’s proposal to cut dole payments for six months for young unemployed not in education, a proposal that seemed friendless at the conference though defended by Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews.

Cobb-Clark said the answer to the challenge she posed lay in the labour market. There needed to be more initiatives to get young people into work. Apart from a focus on training, this meant “we need a serious conversation on penalty rates”.

The tone for the conference was set by Warwick McKibbin, former Reserve Bank board member, who kicked off the event with a survey of global economic risk warning that “uncertainty is large” and the guarantee that “some things are going to happen that surprise us”.

McKibbin said global economic recovery was weak, the liquidity injections into the world finance system had been “incredible”, Europe’s budgets and jobless numbers were unsustainable, risk was not being priced correctly and that, in this environment, “Australia is going to be seen as a safe haven”.

The consequence would be vast: higher capital inflow into Australia, ongoing upward pressure on the exchange rate and the likely dashing of hopes that Australia’s competitiveness would be restored by a falling exchange rate.

On the same day as McKibbin spoke, Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens said the exchange rate remained high by historical standards but he was optimistic about a “significant” fall in the Australia dollar at some point. Stevens and McKibbin have opposing assessments.

Garnaut, who says restoration of economic health requires a major depreciation, told this paper: “Warrick McKibbin’s perspective of a new round of capital inflow will be catastrophic for the trade-based industries. Investment is next to dead in all of the trade-exposed industries. Economic expansion in current circumstances, based only on domestic demand, is unsustainable.”

Garnaut said if the dollar stayed high special measures would be demanded: interest rate cuts to lower the currency plus extra policies to deny any housing price bubble. McKibbin, however, argued that lower interest rates would not lower the dollar: they would merely lift asset prices and foreigners would want to import more capital to hold more of those assets.

Bill Shorten declared himself a “reformer” but put more emphasis on being a “conserver” pledged to “save what is great about our nation”. The Opposition Leader said Labor stood for change with “fairness and caring”. Labor under Shorten often sounds like a resolute defender of the status quo.

Bowen rejected any idea Australia had to choose between growth and fairness. His speech highlighted the great chasm in politics: competing reform agendas between Labor and Coalition, with Labor saying the defining difference is fairness.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...options-are-left/story-e6frg74x-1226978268732

 

[drsmith]

Hopefully some of the experienced senators will pull Ms Lambie into line fairly quickly.
She certainly doesn't suffer from any self esteem problems.

It seems she has axe to grind with the Libs over a failed pre-selection and after a history with Labor is now trying to pal up to Penny Wong according to the following tabloid article.

Before she joined up with Mr Palmer, Senator Lambie tried and failed to win Liberal preselection for the Tasmanian federal seat of Braddon.

Her attempt to win Liberal backing came after she had worked for former Labor senator Nick Sherry.

In the Liberal preselection ballot in 2012, Senator Lambie did not gain a single vote.

She later confronted Tasmanian Liberal Party state director Sam McQuestin and accused him of running a “boy’s club”.

Mr McQuestin rejected the attack, pointing to other female candidates.

He said she was later automatically expelled from the Liberal Party when she announced she would run against them.

“She was unwilling to play by our rules,” he said.

The Government has so far failed to successfully reach out to the combative Senator.

The only Liberal known to have met with her recently is Tasmanian Stephen Parry, who sought her support to become Senate President.

Meanwhile, she has struck up a friendship with Labor’s leader in the Senate, Penny Wong, and has had discussions.

We'll know how well that's going soon enough with the upcoming Senate vote on the carbon tax and I'd suggest Stephen Parry got two short words in response to his approach.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...e-prime-minister/story-fnii5v71-1226978353195

In the above link, watch the second video. She has another crack at Tony Abbott in response to a media question about her own conduct.

Uncle Clive made a blue when he signed her up to his team.