The Abbott Government

[sydboy007]

Pic sums it up.

Priceless pic

I have more issue with shafting the under 30s and sending them into abject poverty if they lose their job in the coming downturn / recession.

maybe someone should ask Tony what would Jesus do in this situation I remember everything had it's place according to Abbott via Jesus. Possibly the lack of Christian values in the budget has cooled the relationship between the two

 

[Smurf1976]

As long as it applies to politicians and public servants as well.

Politicians agreed.

But as for public servants, they are (in the main) just ordinary people doing a job. If we're going to drug test run of the mill office workers etc then it ought to apply regardless of who their employer is be it public or private.

If someone earns an income through working then, within the law, it's up to them how they spend it. That applies regardless of who employs them - should be the same rules public or private sector.

I say that as someone who has never touched illegal drugs of any sort and who works in an industry where being fit for work is essential due to safety considerations. But that ought to apply regardless of who the boss is or whether it's a public service or a for-profit enterprise.

 

[SirRumpole]

If the government wants to save money on family payments, then I suggest it creates a waiting period of at least five years before these are paid to newly arrived immigrants who can now claim these benefits immediately on arrival if they have been accepted for permanent residency.

That may discourage some who come here for the social security, rather than to make a contribution.

 

[IFocus]

Pic sums it up.
Governments have to sell a Budget.

This one hasn't sold in any palatable form. Clive Palmer knows it, and so does Malcolm Turnbull. Medicare $7 co-payment, right up there with '..there will be no carbon tax..'. It's an older population in this country.

Abandon co-payment PM Abbott, or I vote ALP next time.
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Very clever pic, ministers now making statements on policy in line with the cabinet as Abbott contradicts changing positions on the run looking like political strategies unwinding rapidly.

 

[Knobby22]

Howard and Hawke appeared at the Press club together.
Howard made some very good points, as did Hawke. Both great men imo.

Worth a watch of a bit of the video where Howard speaks.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...sons-learnt-20140604-39j72.html#ixzz33jN2HtrO

 

[So_Cynical]

Tony's greatest Gaffs, as shown on US TV a couple of days ago.
~

 

[explod]

Rumour has it that Abbott will be tipped out in nine days,

Successors tipped are Hunt, Turnbull and my wife forgets the name of the other one.

On Facebook this afternoon.

By the news stirring of Jones and Bolt over the last couple of days it looks like the tip on 28th may be on the mark.

This thread looks like coming to an end sooner than we may think.

 

[IFocus]

I have been restrained in commenting on Abbott lately but have been staggered on his continued statements that are direct lies or ignorance. His continuance of playing the Australian voter as ignorant buffoons must be killing the Coalition in the polls I just wonder on the ongoing damage are peoples memory's so short?
The class warfare been raged against the swinging voters for basically little return is just staggering.

 

[sydboy007]

Howard and Hawke appeared at the Press club together.
Howard made some very good points, as did Hawke. Both great men imo.

We'd be lucky to have leadership half their calibre these days.

 

[SirRumpole]

We'd be lucky to have leadership half their calibre these days.

Pity Keating wasn't there, but I doubt if the camaraderie would have lasted.

 

[IFocus]

Speaking of mad clearly the attacks are coming from the PMs office fascinating.......

After a week of extraordinary exchanges with the News Corp columnist Andrew Bolt and the Sydney radio announcer Alan Jones, Turnbull told the ABC’s 7.30 that “you could come to the conclusion” the attacks against him by the commentators had been “coordinated” but that he was “absolutely certain” they had not been fuelled by the prime minister’s office because “that really would be mad".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...steps-up-attack-against-big-megaphone-bullies

 

[Julia]

Watching Sarah Ferguson's interview with Malcolm Turnbull last night, imo he came across as barely containing his irritation at this whole silly situation.
I thought he handled her questions pretty well.
Ditto calling Jones out as he did.

I'm no great fan of Mr Turnbull but believe he has done his best to be a team player in recent times, and can't be held responsible for the stupid behaviour of some of the less than sensible media commentators.

Again, the time, energy and focus of politicians - and the nation - is being wasted by this ridiculous attention-seeking nonsense instead of their looking at some genuinely relevant and important issues.

 

[sptrawler]

Watching Sarah Ferguson's interview with Malcolm Turnbull last night, imo he came across as barely containing his irritation at this whole silly situation.
I thought he handled her questions pretty well.
Ditto calling Jones out as he did.

I'm no great fan of Mr Turnbull but believe he has done his best to be a team player in recent times, and can't be held responsible for the stupid behaviour of some of the less than sensible media commentators.

Again, the time, energy and focus of politicians - and the nation - is being wasted by this ridiculous attention-seeking nonsense instead of their looking at some genuinely relevant and important issues.

+1, the whole media has become an absolute joke.

 

[SirRumpole]

Watching Sarah Ferguson's interview with Malcolm Turnbull last night, imo he came across as barely containing his irritation at this whole silly situation.
I thought he handled her questions pretty well.
Ditto calling Jones out as he did.

I'm no great fan of Mr Turnbull but believe he has done his best to be a team player in recent times, and can't be held responsible for the stupid behaviour of some of the less than sensible media commentators.

Again, the time, energy and focus of politicians - and the nation - is being wasted by this ridiculous attention-seeking nonsense instead of their looking at some genuinely relevant and important issues.

Agreed on Turnbull's response to the issue, Abbott also handled it reasonably well, publicly anyway, but with two of Abbott's media chums coming out with anti Turnbull propaganda in such a short time frame you just have to wonder what and who is behind it. Peta Credlin on behalf of her boss perhaps ?

There is rarely smoke without fire, and I would surmise that there is a fair bit of smouldering going on in the LNP backbenches. Some with slim majorities may be getting nervous.

 

[sydboy007]

Agreed on Turnbull's response to the issue, Abbott also handled it reasonably well, publicly anyway, but with two of Abbott's media chums coming out with anti Turnbull propaganda in such a short time frame you just have to wonder what and who is behind it. Peta Credlin on behalf of her boss perhaps ?

There is rarely smoke without fire, and I would surmise that there is a fair bit of smouldering going on in the LNP backbenches. Some with slim majorities may be getting nervous.

Could be the tea party members firing the first shots against any potential moves by the few remaining centrists in the party?

Could be the below graphs have them scared to the ending of their entitlements.

Below Gillard's popularity 2 months faster

How do you win an election yet never rate positively with the public as PM?

 

[sptrawler]

How do you win an election yet never rate positively with the public as PM?

Just shows how disenchanted the electorate was with the previous government.
The way things are going, we could be flipping governments for the next 10 years.

Shame the problems won't go away.
However by then the media will really have something to report, the economy should be in real strife.

 

[sydboy007]

Just shows how disenchanted the electorate was with the previous government.
The way things are going, we could be flipping governments for the next 10 years.

Shame the problems won't go away.
However by then the media will really have something to report, the economy should be in real strife.

yes, I think the L+NP really thought the electorate wanted them when it was a case of dumb and dumber and fat bastard. OH BEHAVE

Wont take 10 years. 100K of workers around the LNG terminals all looking for new jobs over the next 2 years. Another 30K or so looking for jobs from other resource project construction as well.

The media might focus on GDP growth, mostly due to the population ponzi and net exports, which don't reflect the loss of purchasing power we're all facing, or the fact there's been an income and spending recession going on for the last couple of years already..

It was good while the ToT boom lasted, shame all we've got to show for it is massively wasteful Government spending programs and some of the world's most overpriced housing

 

[sptrawler]

yes, I think the L+NP really thought the electorate wanted them when it was a case of dumb and dumber and fat bastard. OH BEHAVE

Wont take 10 years. 100K of workers around the LNG terminals all looking for new jobs over the next 2 years. Another 30K or so looking for jobs from other resource project construction as well.

The media might focus on GDP growth, mostly due to the population ponzi and net exports, which don't reflect the loss of purchasing power we're all facing, or the fact there's been an income and spending recession going on for the last couple of years already..

It was good while the ToT boom lasted, shame all we've got to show for it is massively wasteful Government spending programs and some of the world's most overpriced housing

Spot on, best everyone gets ready for a reality check.
I think the spending cuts have caused a media meltdown, can't wait to see how 'bent out of shape' they get when it all starts to affect them personally.
It probably has commenced with the t.v networks rationalising, the next will be a rapid slump in newspaper circulation.
Then will come the change of government and increased welfare spending, increased taxes and off we go again. Hopefully we will be back to 50c U.S by then

 

[IFocus]

+1, the whole media has become an absolute joke.

To be honest are Bolt and Jones Media?

 

[lindsayf]

Watching Sarah Ferguson's interview with Malcolm Turnbull last night, imo he came across as barely containing his irritation at this whole silly situation.
I thought he handled her questions pretty well.
Ditto calling Jones out as he did.

I'm no great fan of Mr Turnbull but believe he has done his best to be a team player in recent times, and can't be held responsible for the stupid behaviour of some of the less than sensible media commentators.

Again, the time, energy and focus of politicians - and the nation - is being wasted by this ridiculous attention-seeking nonsense instead of their looking at some genuinely relevant and important issues.

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