The 'hate Abbott" campaign is plumbing ridiculous depths. The absurd Winkgate nonsense is a prime example, but the biggest absurdity was that Abbott felt the need to apologise, when he was so obviously set up by Faine and a sexline worker who is a Labor activist.
The smart thing for Abbott to have done was to tell the Labor/Green/Feminist twitterati to go to hell. The same applies to the "die of shame" remark. No explanation or apology will stop the Abbott haters from raising it, again and again, for their own grubby purposes.
His simple answer is "if you don't like it, lump it". It is when they get an apology out of him that they win, and it spurs them on to more nastiness, directed at him and his family.
All other visits will be charged. Anyway, as you said it's not through Parliament yet, I'm sure that will be modified before then.
I heard the leader of the AMA state that he was amazed that Hockey hadn't read his own budget (on the ABC of course, it won't be mentioned in The Australian). As a general principle, the AMA aren't against charging the fee by the way.
But however loud the wails, charging co-payments for GP visits is hardly unusual, even in health systems hailed for equity of access.
After all, the socially-minded Swedes do it, with co-payments that range from $20 to $30; so do the Finns, where consumers pay about $20 per visit; and even those diehard defenders of social security, the French, rely extensively on co-payments to “moderate” demand.
As for our Kiwi cousins, they have had co-payments for years. And far from services being retrenched, access to primary health services is generally very good, with 84 per cent of New Zealanders reporting that they are able to see a GP within 24 hours, as compared to about 65 per cent of Australians. Moreover, with co-payments boosting GPs’ incomes, after hours services are more readily available, with only 6 per cent of those surveyed finding surgery hours too limited.
But that isn’t to deny the co-payments will affect demand. Of course they will: the issue is by how much and with what effects.
Amen
.....and I'm sick of my faceache feed getting bombarded with peurile Labor/Green misrepresentations.
The left are causing a division in society like Ive never witnessed in the Anglosphere, whipping up the haters into a muck lather.... impossible to reason with, even if it has never been easy (ref wayneL's Law).
Tones and I are not mates Knobby. As often stated on this forum, I am not a conservative, I am a classical liberal/libertarian. As such, the Liberal party is not a good fit for me, it's just that Labor are in quantum measure, even less so.
So please, enough of the argumentative fallacy.
Fwiw, Tone's comment was fair game (though AJs was in poor taste) IMO.
The old switcheroo eh? Quoting Labor/Fabian MO and assigning it to the conservatives... Oh my, your fallaciousness knows know bounds (and your red knickers are showing).
Ah yars reminds one of the "ditch the witch" hate campaign doesn't it ?
But it was the Right doing the social division and hating then, so that's fine.
As I said before, "What goes around comes around".
Was ditch the witch a campaign, or one person with a placard?
Was ditch the witch a campaign, or one person with a placard?
Me thinks that one placard was a deliberate attempt by the Socialist left to shame Tony Abbott.....It popped up behind him where he could not see it.......Ah yes, nothing would surprise me with Labor's dirty tactics of late.
Ditch the witch wasn't such a bad placard. Just a rhyme, not that bad.
It was the following one that caused all the anger.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/gillard-revolted-by-liberal-tactics/story-fn6bqphm-1226027682690
Sophie shouldn't have turned up to that one. I am sure it helped her lose her seat.
The 'hate Abbott" campaign is plumbing ridiculous depths. The absurd Winkgate nonsense is a prime example, but the biggest absurdity was that Abbott felt the need to apologise, when he was so obviously set up by Faine and a sexline worker who is a Labor activist.
The smart thing for Abbott to have done was to tell the Labor/Green/Feminist twitterati to go to hell. The same applies to the "die of shame" remark. No explanation or apology will stop the Abbott haters from raising it, again and again, for their own grubby purposes.
His simple answer is "if you don't like it, lump it". It is when they get an apology out of him that they win, and it spurs them on to more nastiness, directed at him and his family.
I told her calm down nothing was through parliament yet and asked her if she knew there were waivers for people with an ongoing medical condition.
Did you say "don't worry mum, Labor and the Greens will save you" ?
No she still has her marbles, there is no way she would believe that.
She has lived through enough Labor governments, to know it always ends up in debt and belt tightening.
Yep, only ex union organisers and rusted on ex shop stewards believe that garbage.
In that case, she has obviously got what she voted for, so why the complaints ?
Don't believe the me,me,me mentality is is limited to the young.lol
If your parents worked hard and paid their taxes then I believe they have more grounds to complain when something they have is taken away than do young people who want everything without working for it.
That's why I think that raising marginal tax rates is a better way of ensuring sustainability of services in the long term.
Young people will get the advantages of a good health system later in life, and old people will get the services now when they need them, and not in 20 years when they are dead and the Medical Research Fund may or may not have found a cure for their ailments.
It's about basic fairness, and this budget fails that test.
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