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wayneL said:
That's a pathetic straw man fallacy Horace, free speech has never included the right to defame without remedy, in any Western democracy.
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Bolt defamed people and got punished for it, so what's the difference ?

If Bolt was sued for defamation and lost, he would be a lot poorer than he is now.

He got off easy under 18C, and should be thankful that he wasn't sued for defamation.
 
SirRumpole said:
Bolt defamed people and got punished for it, so what's the difference ?

If Bolt was sued for defamation and lost, he would be a lot poorer than he is now.

He got off easy under 18C, and should be thankful that he wasn't sued for defamation.
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Your irrational presumption is that he defamed somebody. He didn't.

I think it would be wise to get back on topic.
 
Calliope said:
Your irrational presumption is that he defamed somebody. He didn't.

I think it would be wise to get back on topic.
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Yes you can argue "off topic", but you bought the subject up of free speech, and now you are trying to shut it down.

Your first statement, that Bolt did not defame anyone is your opinion. Others I've read believe the plaintiffs would have had a good case for defamation.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yes you can argue "off topic", but you bought the subject up of free speech, and now you are trying to shut it down.

Your first statement, that Bolt did not defame anyone is your opinion. Others I've read believe the plaintiffs would have had a good case for defamation.
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Still :topic If you want to rubbish Bolt, there is a thread for that.[/B]
 
One significant aspect is the emphasis on the states to agree to increasing GST revenue for long term maintenance of funding of health and education.
 
So all the endless ranting about the paid maternity leave, not the least on here, may have been a waste of breath.
Wow how much mileage did that one get.lol

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-13/corporate-welfare-axed-in-budget-2014/5446706

However, for whatever reason, the Government's planned company tax cut, paid parental leave scheme and the proposed 1.5 per cent levy on big business to fund the leave scheme have been left in the contingency reserve, rather than costed individually in detail in the budget.
 
Well done Joe Hockey.

A realistic and necessary budget brought down by the coalition.

The adults are back in charge.
 
dutchie said:
Well done Joe Hockey.

A realistic and necessary budget brought down by the coalition.

The adults are back in charge.
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The budget was rubbish. Hitting those that can least afford it the most, and leaving mining companies and other businesses earning massive profits alone.

Class warfare at its worst.
 
The Age tells it like it is.

What's the bet that:
- the GP visit co-payment stays at $7. Thin end of the wedge.
- the debt-levy tax on high income isn't either heavily watered down, or quietly withdrawn
- pollies salaries resume the upward trend once the heat's off

The image of Hockey and Cormann smoking cigars at Parliament House will be an enduring one.

A horrid, callous budget. 6 months paid parental leave is still on the table, they're just waiting until the heat's off. Sharing the pain...pfft

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/sp...stbudget-political-bounce-20140506-zr59m.html

..This time, the Abbott government’s debt-levy/tax on high-income earners is an obvious kite. And, given the response so far - especially from the Liberal’s heartland of high-income earners but also from middle Australia and aspirational voters - it would be surprising if the levy will apply to those on $80,000. If it does happen, it is likely to kick in at higher levels of income.

But perhaps the debt levy/tax is a clever distraction? There did appear to be some leaks to friendly news sources about its details (another spin technique). And while all of the vocal, high-income earners are rallying against the levy and broken promises, that takes attention away from other budget measures that might be about to hit many more Australians. This includes those who are least able to defend themselves - the unemployed, single parents, disability pensioners, the chronically ill, students, the elderly, low and middle-income families who have to take their children to the doctors regularly. Their concerns might be crowded out by the focus on the wealth tax. And, if not by the wealth tax, by a focus on the many chilling prospects raised by the Commission of Audit.
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Logique said:
The Age tells it like it is.

What's the bet that:
- the GP visit co-payment stays at $7. Thin end of the wedge.
- the debt-levy tax on high income isn't either heavily watered down, or quietly withdrawn
- pollies salaries resume the upward trend once the heat's off

The image of Hockey and Cormann smoking cigars at Parliament House will be an enduring one.

A horrid, callous budget. 6 months paid parental leave is still on the table, they're just waiting until the heat's off. Sharing the pain...pfft
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The debt levy tax only lasts three years anyway

Does anyone think that a politician earning $500k pa having his pay frozen for a while bears any relationship to people on low incomes paying more for doctors visits & medicines permanently ?

The arrogance of these idiots is stunning.
 
No mess?

Using the Wayne Swan economics method the Government just delivered a Surplus!

"Swanning about and surplus to the truth

Patrick Lion
The Daily Telegraph
February 07, 2013 12:00AM



TREASURER Wayne Swan has been left red-faced after letterbox-dropping voters in his electorate and claiming he had "delivered" a Budget surplus, months before ditching what was only ever a promise.

The Opposition yesterday revealed in question time that Mr Swan was among at least 10 Labor MPs who sent constituents a taxpayer-funded pamphlet "Australia's economic report card" after last year's Budget.

The pamphlet claimed "we've delivered a surplus, on time, as promised", despite the government only forecasting a surplus in the Budget."

Mr Swan in December quietly ditched the pledge, saying it was now "unlikely".
 
If the Senate throws out this budget, will Tony Abbott have the guts to call a double dissolution and justify his broken promises ?
 
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