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overhang said:
Well Peter Costello certainly seems to disagree with you, reading between the lines he insinuates the government leaked the levy to gauge public reaction.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...bt-levy-will-die/story-fni0cwl5-1226906423665
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I'm not saying things aren't leaked, I'm saying the endless dribble that the newspapers put out is appalling.

When the Audit was announced, it was presented in a lot of the press as government policy, then you get everyone ranting about it.

Even your statement above is vague, 'seems to disagree', 'reading between the lines' and 'insunuates' all speculative supposition.

I guess I'm just fed up with poor media, even watching the news is grating, some newsreader giving their opinion on whatever story they're reading.
Who cares what her or his opinion is? Also how qualified are they to give an opinion anyway.
Well that's my rant for the week
 
sptrawler said:
I'm not saying things aren't leaked, I'm saying the endless dribble that the newspapers put out is appalling.

When the Audit was announced, it was presented in a lot of the press as government policy, then you get everyone ranting about it.

Even your statement above is vague, 'seems to disagree', 'reading between the lines' and 'insunuates' all speculative supposition.

I guess I'm just fed up with poor media, even watching the news is grating, some newsreader giving their opinion on whatever story they're reading.
Who cares what her or his opinion is? Also how qualified are they to give an opinion anyway.
Well that's my rant for the week
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I didn't know Grandpa Simpson posted here.
 
sptrawler said:
I'm not saying things aren't leaked, I'm saying the endless dribble that the newspapers put out is appalling.

When the Audit was announced, it was presented in a lot of the press as government policy, then you get everyone ranting about it.

Even your statement above is vague, 'seems to disagree', 'reading between the lines' and 'insunuates' all speculative supposition.

I guess I'm just fed up with poor media, even watching the news is grating, some newsreader giving their opinion on whatever story they're reading.
Who cares what her or his opinion is? Also how qualified are they to give an opinion anyway.
Well that's my rant for the week
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The government has lead to this speculation by not actually confirming or denying anything, they leaked this info that has caused a media frenzy and rightly so when Abbott promised no new taxes.
I'm sure I wouldn't have to check far into your post history to find some speculative comments one way or the other.
 
banco said:
I didn't know Grandpa Simpson posted here.
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Yes, just had my hip replaced a couple of weeks back, probably watching too much t.v.

It's like Packer and his mate having a bit of a punch up, the press get hold of it, now the bloody police are involved.
It's a bloody shame the press can't go down the local train station after dark, and catch the thugs bashing the helpless and elderly, then get the police onto that.
No it isn't as exciting and won't sell bloody papers, it would only help society, who cares about that?
See you've got me going again.

I've got to get out more.:cry:
 
Latest budget speculation on taxes,

Senator Cormann called the deficit tax an “immediate special effort” but would not reveal who would pay it or how much it would cost. One option is a 1 per cent tax on earnings over $150,000 and 2 per cent on more than $180,000 to raise about $6.2bn over four years, according to estimates from Deloitte Access Economics. Another is only a 2 per cent tax on earnings over $180,000 to raise $4.6bn and sharpen the political fight by making it harder for Labor to oppose a hit to the wealthiest.
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Hopefully, for simplicity if nothing else, it will be limited to the top marginal tax bracket.

The Australian has confirmed that a rise in the fuel excise of 3c a litre was raised during budget consultations with interest groups. A government spokesman last night declined to comment on any fuel excise rise.
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Reintroduction of CPI indexation on fuel excise would in my view make more sense than a one off hit.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...e-rise-in-frame/story-fnmbxr2t-1226909589752#
 
Good bit from Latham today.

The greatest emergency in Australian politics is not in the federal budget papers. It’s in a different kind of deficit: the democratic deficit whereby, after two decades of broken promises, entitlement rorts and corruption scandals, the electorate has lost faith in the political system. Public trust is at an all-time low. This is not just the Australian habit of tearing down tall poppies. It reflects a slow-burning anger in the electorate, a deep dislike of all things political as people have given up on democratic ideals.

At one time, I thought Tony Abbott understood this problem. Having campaigned for nearly three years against Julia Gillard’s broken carbon tax pledge and put trust at the centre of his covenant with the Australian people, one would have thought the Prime Minister had just two rules for government. One, keep all of his promises; and two, do as much as he could thereafter to reduce the budget deficit.

The Coalition’s much-touted debt tax, however, has sidelined this commonsense approach. Abbott has lowered himself to the status of any other hustling, two-bit political shyster. As acts of folly go, this one is a cracker. A man who put everything on the line by promising to keep each and every one of his election promises has crashed at the first honesty hurdle. He already had an integrity problem, a hangover from last year’s travel rorts scandal, but a broken tax promise is much worse. Abbott has handed to Bill Shorten the political sword he used so effectively in opposition: slashing a government to the ground on the core question of trust.

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It [the Commission of Audit] was useful only for revealing how senior Liberals see the future of community services in Australia, with an end to universality and the residualisation of the public sector. Contrast this with Abbott’s 2013 election manifesto when he campaigned as Gillard-lite, making extravagant promises for paid parental leave, Gonski school funding, the National Disability Insurance Scheme and the maintenance of carbon tax compensation (sans the tax itself: compo for nothing).

On top of this largesse, Abbott promised no net cuts to education, health, defence and pension spending, plus no new taxes – a magic pudding approach to budget management.

The gap between these commitments and the Commission of Audit report’s recommendations is being felt in two ways.

The first is in broken promises, as the government scrambles to do something meaningful about the budget deficit.

The second is in political frustration, as right-wingers come to realise that Abbott is something of a straw man: useful for turfing Labor out of power but hopeless at winding back the welfare state.
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http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/tony_abbott_and_his_great_big_trust_vsSqjbx94pEGClwYULzMBM
 
It's a pity Mr Latham failed so dismally when he had his chance. He clearly has the capacity for lucid thinking and expression.

It was good to see the candid Amanda Vanstone on "7.30" this evening, having lost none of her no-bullsh*t attitude. Despite Sarah Ferguson's best efforts, Amanda was entirely up to the challenge.
Shame that she's no longer in government imo.
 
Julia said:
It was good to see the candid Amanda Vanstone on "7.30" this evening, having lost none of her no-bullsh*t attitude. Despite Sarah Ferguson's best efforts, Amanda was entirely up to the challenge.
Shame that she's no longer in government imo.
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Oh yes, we could certainly do with more criminals in this country, as long as they are Liberal party donors.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/crime-fighter-lashes-vanstones-visa-20090308-8sfu.html

Vanstone was packed off to Italy for a reason, she was just too embarrassing to have around.
 
Just feels like everything is unravelling as Abbott performs the ultimate wedge politics on himself having promised the world in blood.

Another messenger for you to shoot sptrawler :)

I really do wish Labor would stop spending all our money

Company directors losing faith in Abbott Government

A survey shows company directors have become much less confident in the Abbott Government since it was first elected.

Back in the second half of 2013, just after the Abbott Government took office, almost 70 per cent of company directors expected the new administration to have a positive impact on their business decision making.

In the latest Australian Institute of Company Directors (AICD) survey, this figure has slumped to just 30 per cent.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-08/company-directors-starting-to-lose-faith-in-government/5439272
 
For anyone living under a rock lately a bit of history here


The prime minister insisted during last year’s election campaign that there would be no new taxes under a Coalition government, but has argued a deficit levy would not break that promise because it is temporary.

Tony Abbott opposed the 2011 flood levy, a temporary measure to pay for reconstruction after the Queensland floods. The carbon tax, which Abbott aggressively opposed and campaigned to abolish, is also technically a temporary measure, which is supposed to move to an emissions trading scheme with a floating price.

Abbott criticised taxes heavily as opposition leader but he argues because of the “budget emergency” the government is being forced to take action.

So what exactly has the Coalition said?
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Statements before the September 2013 election

Mark Riley: “But aren’t you going to have to increase taxes yourself?”

Abbott: “No. We are going to get government spending under control.”
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Seven News, 4 August, 2013

“What you’ll get under us are tax cuts without new taxes.”
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Tony Abbott, doorstop,14 March, 2012

“I say to this prime minister there should be no new tax collection without an election. That's what this prime minister should do. If this prime minister trusts in the democratic process, if this prime minister trusts her own judgment, trusts her own argument, that is what she should be doing. She should be taking this to the people. Mr Speaker, the whole point of this tax is to change the way every single Australian lives and works. That's another reason why this should be taken to the people.”
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Tony Abbott, January 2011, at the same press conference

"Why should the Australian people be hit with a levy to meet expenses which a competent, adult, prudent government should be able to cover from the ordinary revenues of government? … The one thing people will never have to suffer under a Coalition government is an unnecessary new tax, a tax that could easily be replaced by savings found from the budget.”
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ernment-broken-its-election-promises-on-taxes
 
Budget's petrol shock will leave voters fuming

Motorists will pay more for fuel in future and it looks set to keep rising as Prime Minister Tony Abbott prepares to break his no "new taxes" promise for a second time – this time by taxing petrol at a higher rate.

The plan, which the government refused to officially confirm, compounds another tax increase to be announced in the budget – a special deficit levy on higher income earners designed to raise about $2.5 billion a year for its duration.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ters-fuming-20140508-zr6v2.html#ixzz31AIgaTdE
 
IFocus said:
Budget's petrol shock will leave voters fuming



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ters-fuming-20140508-zr6v2.html#ixzz31AIgaTdE
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The electorate will be fuming by any method to pay this debt back, did they really expect as they spent their $900 cheque on a new tv that wouldn't have to pay this money back in some form or another.

My complaint would be that they won't reduce the fuel rebate for miners at all. I say bring the fuel indexation on and I'm someone that drives a V8.
 
overhang said:
The electorate will be fuming by any method to pay this debt back, did they really expect as they spent their $900 cheque on a new tv that wouldn't have to pay this money back in some form or another.

My complaint would be that they won't reduce the fuel rebate for miners at all. I say bring the fuel indexation on and I'm someone that drives a V8.
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Good old generous Kevvie forgot to tell everyone at the time that those $900 cheques were just a loan....now you have to pay it back with interest.;)
 
overhang said:
The electorate will be fuming by any method to pay this debt back, did they really expect as they spent their $900 cheque on a new tv that wouldn't have to pay this money back in some form or another.
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Not wanting to get into the debt discussion again but the stimulus isn't the reason for the current "budget crisis"

It was $40 bil the Liberals would have spent $20 bil small change apparently in these days of over heated printing presses.

The issue is successive governments starting with Howard giving away money to buy votes creating a structural issue on the revenue side.

Neither side of politics is prepared to talk about it, the Liberals don't want Howard and Costello's legacy of being economic genus (selling $ zillions of our assets and giving it away in permanent tax cuts ) to be blighted and Labor wont because they don't want to appear as mugs going along with the Ponzi scheme.

On top of all that you have both sides agreeing (Abbott in blood) to further big ticket item spending.........what do you do ......blame the other mob and have an absolute dogs breakfast list of new taxes that are not new taxes blah blah.............;)
 
I believe by the end of 2015, voters will be thanking Abbott for taking a strong stand on reducing spending and bring some stability in the debt and deficit.

Of course the comrades of the Greens will be expected to keep pounding on about broken promises and will continue to make out everything is rosy when they know damn well they left behind one hell of a mess.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...to-be-paying-off/story-e6frgd0x-1226910856280
 
Latest on fuel excise,

It is understood the budget – which is now all but finalised and heading to the official printer – contains changes to restore indexation of federal petrol excise according to inflation, adding up to 4 ¢ or 5 ¢ a litre within four years, which would be on top of the other factors that have been driving petrol prices up.
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The Australian Automobile Association (AAA) says the return to using the consumer price index to upwardly adjust the per-litre amount of federal excise would add about 0.6 of a cent per litre in 2014-15 for a modest initial return of $339 million to Canberra.

However, that revenue would climb exponentially as the price rises 3.5 ¢ to 4 ¢ a litre in 2017-18, raising $1600 million in that year, or $3.7 billion over the first four years.
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-will-leave-voters-fuming-20140508-zr6v2.html
 
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