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The deal has prompted a degree of restiveness within Coalition ranks. George Christensen, a north Queensland government backbencher from a sugar-growing region, has queried the value of the new agreement.
“I appreciate that negotiating FTAs, particularly with Japan, is tricky business. But I wonder about the value of an FTA with any nation unless there's significant benefit for Australian agriculture,” Christensen told the ABC on Tuesday.
Deal not well received from within the Liberal party wonder what would have been said if Labor caved in
Tony Abbott defends free trade deal with Japan despite farmers' criticism
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ade-deal-with-japan-despite-farmers-criticism
Deal not well received from within the Liberal party wonder what would have been said if Labor caved in
Tony Abbott defends free trade deal with Japan despite farmers' criticism
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ade-deal-with-japan-despite-farmers-criticism
Never any mention of how long the foregone tariff revenue takes to be replaced by the increased taxes generate by the inflated projections of increased GDP. What taxes will rise / services be cut to compensate for the immediate revenue losses?
No mention that importers may decide to increase more expensive imports from Japan that appear cheaper because of the removed tariffs but leave the Australian economy poorer eg product A from 1 country at 10,500 (imported as $10000 + $500 tariff) is replaced by $10300 product from Japan (exported as $10300 with $0 tariff. Importer has saved $200 but $500 in tariff revenue has been forgone.
Throw in very complex ROOs and I don't see much benefit from any of the FTAs that have been signed. Certainly all the blue sky dreams from the USFTA have never materialised for Australia.
The fact is world population is still increasing at a decent clip, amount of arable land is decreasing at an alarming rate, most countries that have extremely high tariffs on agricultural products will face having to reduce them in the not too distant future simply to keep food price inflation under control. This years wheat crop is looking to be a shocker due to drought in much of the growing regions of the USA and Australia. I'd argue by the time we get any meaningful tariff reductions from these crappy managed trade deals our trade partners will be forced into reducing their tariffs on food imports any way.
Labor's idea of international negotiation on agriculture was to ban live cattle exports to Indonesia on the basis of a 4-Corners program.Labor sat on their backsides for 6 years and did nothing because they did not know how to go about it...which of course is not surprising....If it was anything to do with the National interest, Labor did not want to know about it.
And after Labor did nothing on free trade agreements and almost killed the cattle trade with Indonesia, Penny Wong sits back and criticizes the Abbott Government for what they did not get in the agreement.....What did she expect Abbott to do?.......Hold a gun at the head of the Japanese Prime Minister.
As I always say, it is better to have a half a loaf of bread than no bread at all.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...r-lives-directly/story-fni0ffsx-1226878193669
And how about this from Craig Emmerson
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/.../if_emerson_says_its_good_hes_probably_right/
Former trade minister Craig Emerson is of the view this trade deal with Japan is the best Australia could have achieved.So in your opinion Australia got a better deal than the Japanese?
Former trade minister Craig Emerson is of the view this trade deal with Japan is the best Australia could have achieved.
These could well be fair points, but not as a partisan criticism of the current government.LOL. Miles away from saying it's a good deal.
I think there should be a legal frame work the Govt has to work in. No more waiting 20 years for tariffs to be reduced, yet alone not even achieving a full removal. I'd argue a 10 year max for full removal is reasonable. Having to wait any longer is really just signing your name on a piece of paper for political gain.
Having to wait any longer is really just signing your name on a piece of paper for political gain.
These could well be fair points, but not as a partisan criticism of the current government.
How dare they.Political gain should only be the preserve of the left.
How's about we look at Labor's Japan FTA deal during their 6-years in office.Well how's about we look at the Labor Chile FTA deal.
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How's about we look at Labor's Japan FTA deal during their 6-years in office.
What's worse? Not signing a crap deal or signing a crap deal and crowing about it?
Labor seems to have shown far better negotiating skills. Best to hang off giving away the family silver till we're getting access to something of equal value?
If Abbott signs a China FTA I'd say it will help to make KAFTA and JAPEA look good.
So I can surmise you believe the JAPEA and KAFTA are good deals for Australia since you're bagging Labor for not signing one with Japan?
Sour grapes sydboy......Stop sucking on lemons...If Labor had done the deal, you would be crowing instead.
Chile ...Malaysia....What is the trade worth between them and Australia compared to Japan, Korea and China?
PEANUTS.
Great deal Labor did on the meat industry with Indonesia.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They sent a few Australian cattle cockies to the wall and few to their grave thanks to Ludwig.
If Labor had been silly enough to sign these agreements I'd have been just as critical of them.
I'd agree that Labor could have handled the Indonesian live cattle issue far better, but then did you actually watch eh videos of what was happening to the cattle. I did and felt physically ill afterwards, so some form of response was definitely necessary, unless of course you don't believe that animals should be humanely slaughtered?
So I'll ask you once again, do you believe that Australia or Japan is getting a better deal from the Aus-Jap FTA??
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