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Also looking at buying some SYD soon, decent yield. But I need to look at their fundamentals first but I think might be a good position to add to my portfolioBought some SYD today (longer term outlook) for the super fund will be interesting to see how far out current pricing is.
The dividend is suspended at the moment, but I imagine it will be reinstated as soon as profitability returns.Also looking at buying some SYD soon, decent yield.
The reported profit has always been much lower than actual free cash flows, for a number of reasons.Can someone explain how Syd airport can pay 6-7% dividends usually when they have a historical PE of around 40?
It will be interesting to see the FY21 results.The reported profit has always been much lower than actual free cash flows, for a number of reasons.
for example because they paid $5 Billion upfront to lease the airport on a 99 year lease from the government, they write down the value of that lease each year which reduces their reported profit, but is not a cash cost.
Same with all the buildings and equipment they have installed, they depreciate them on the books at a faster rate than they actually depreciate, which means they are being written down in value more each year than what it actually costs to maintain them which again means actual cashflow is higher than reported earnings.
The best figure to look at is operating income, but before the pandemic, SYD was basically paying out 100% of operating income as a dividend, if they continue this strategy once dividends resume, then you can use the dividend amount as its net profit figure.
I am pretty Bullish on SYD, before Covid the Airport was already reaching its practical capacity, with all peak time slots fully booked, I expect by 2026 SYD airport will be busier than it was pre covid, so the Western Sydney airport will provide extra capacity and allow some of the low profit margin traffic to move there freeing up slots at SYD for more profitable traffic.It will be interesting to see the FY21 results.
In 2026 Western Sydney Airport is going to open, and it clearly will impact on SYD thereafter. Maybe the feds will have sold it off by then, or beforehand, and SYD pick it up?
Anyhow, I too had looked at SYD for the superfund prior to covid, but added TCL and AMC instead.
I can't say any are better than the other, although without much international flying being done I can't see SYD's lot returning to pre-covid glory days until 2023. And when it does happen there is currently a strong case for flying to take tens of millions away from cruises, so the return to profit could have an extra bite.
Curfews are a big issue at Kingsford Smith so while freight might be an initial focus, the longer term might see it a better fit for international passengers.also Western Sydney airport is likely to be the major freight hub
The convenient hours for international flight to arrive and depart Sydney for international flights based on the arrival and departure of their destinations fit inside the curfew pretty well, and many of the international carriers are probably not going to want to operate out of two airports, So I think SYD will still be the main destination for most of the high value international traffic.Curfews are a big issue at Kingsford Smith so while freight might be an initial focus, the longer term might see it a better fit for international passengers.
Who and what type of aircraft fly out of Western Sydney won't be particularly clear for a good few years. They do answer a few questions though:The convenient hours for international flight to arrive and depart Sydney for international flights based on the arrival and departure of their destinations fit inside the curfew pretty well, and many of the international carriers are probably not going to want to operate out of two airports, So I think SYD will still be the main destination for most of the high value international traffic.
I believe it will be a bit like London, where you have most of the High Value international traffic passing through Heathrow, and the other 5 airports.
This also means that a lot of the domestic travel will be through SYD also, because of connecting flights.
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Let me explain what I meant above above convenient flight times fitting inside the curfew.
If you want to fly to the USA, the most convenient times for planes to leave Sydney is around 10.30am, because that means you will arrive in LA at around 6am which is when the immigration opens, so there is no benefit to leaving earlier during curfew.
Also, on the return flight from LA to Sydney, the flights can't leave LA until night time anyway because about half of the passengers are connecting from other cities in the USA or South America , so the planes wait in LA until around 9pm - 11pm and will arrive back in Sydney between 7am - 9am, again no real benefit to an airport without a curfew.
and the same is true for various reasons on other routes
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This is how qantas runs the USA service, Planes work in groups of 3
eg. 3 planes depart Australia at around 10am, 1 from each city of Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne, All three planes arrive in LA at around 6am, 1 of the planes is parked up and gets routine maintenance done for the day the other 2 get loaded up with all the connecting passengers of the 3 planes and 1 plane flies to Dallas and one New York, they then unload there and pick up passengers returning to Australia, the arrive back at LA at around 7pm all passengers shuffle back to the planes going back to Brisbane, Sydney Melbourne and the flights leave LA at 9am-11pm and return to their home city by 6 am ready to get reloaded and leave by 10am back to the USA.
It fits perfectly in the curfew, there is very little benefit to extending the curfew hours except to be able to fit in more flights.
this cycle takes 2 days, so they have 2 sets of planes services the route for each flight code.
Who and what type of aircraft fly out of Western Sydney won't be particularly clear for a good few years. They do answer a few questions though:
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Given Qantas and Virgin are our principal domestic carriers, and domestic is a big slice of SYD's revenue stream, I am not going to be jumping to any conclusions about the extent that Western Sydney will impact SYD's profits.
As our super fund has long term stock in it, currently SYD is not the fit I would prefer. That might change down the track.
At the moment there is no compelling reason to buy, but as you say long term there is a case for income investors, the question is are there better opportunities at the moment?SYD's traffic numbers are growing strongly so far this year, today it was announced that 1.5 Million passengers passed through the airport in April, this up up from 1.1 Million in March, 623 Thousand in February, and only 230 Thousand in January.
This great result for April was also achieved with the NZ travel bubble only being open for a week of April, So I am expecting May numbers to be even better.
I disagree, I think that from todays share price we could easily be looking at a capital gain of 15% per year compounded for the next 3 year, and about 12 - 18 months from now dividends could easily be 30cents per share which is about a 5% return.At the moment there is no compelling reason to buy,
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